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The breath scene is impossible at face value

Débuté par BleedingUranium , janv. 21 2013 05:04

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:04

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Some very ill-informed people have tried to claim that Shepard could survive any of the following:

-Destroy tube explosion
-Destroy wave
-20km wide explosion originating from where he is

And if they claim he is on Earth (still literal):

-Being in space without a sealed suit
-Reentering Earth's atmosphere
-Hitting the ground


Shepard could maybe have survived one of these things, and only one: the Destroy tube explosion.

Let's have a look, shall we?

Oh look, Shepard is completely incinerated. And no, you can't claim that it's just the character model disappearing, because there are very obvious scorch marks on the ground. And yes, this is visible without flycam, so you can't claim that either.

Shepard is completely vaporized. Explain the breath scene without using "bad riting" or handwaving.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:07 .

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Red Panda
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:10

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Remnants of the previous ending. It's why the stargazer scene is still there. It makes little sense to be underdeveloped when the galaxy quickly rebuilt after the Reaper war.

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Sajuro
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:12

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The scene is entitled Shepard Alive
and rage is one hell of an aneshtetic

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teh DRUMPf!!
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:14

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 FlyCam certifiably breaks the lore. I sure as hell never saw that when I picked Destroy.

This video comes from the same imbeciles who complain "OMG SHEPUR IS STAREN AT TEH WALL WHILE THANEZ FIGHTAN!!!" Right, and then he/she turns back instantly when Thane's stabbed and yells it out.

None of this is supposed to happen. Ignore it.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:15 .

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:15

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Remnants of the previous ending. It's why the stargazer scene is still there. It makes little sense to be underdeveloped when the galaxy quickly rebuilt after the Reaper war.


Handwaving.

Sajuro wrote...

The scene is entitled Shepard Alive
and rage is one hell of an aneshtetic


Good quote, but impossible.

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 FlyCam certifiably breaks the lore.

This
video comes from the same imbeciles who complain "OMG SHEPUR IS STAREN
AT TEH WALL WHILE THANEZ FIGHTAN!!!" Right, and then he/she turns back
instantly when Thane's stabbed and yells it out.

None of this is supposed to happen. Ignore it.


It's visible without flycam, you didn't read.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:16 .

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Red Panda
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:17

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I take it this thread is a pro-IT thread?

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MacroSpamMK
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:17

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The eagles rescued him.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:17

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MacroSpamMK wrote...

The eagles rescued him.


whY AM I LAUGHING SO HARD 

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Zazzerka
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:17

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Shepard is completely vaporized. Explain the breath scene without using "bad riting" or handwaving.

That's the thing. You know full well we can't.

Thinly veiled IT thread is thinly veiled.

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Renmiri1
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:19

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Space magic!

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:19

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BleedingUranium wrote...

It's visible without flycam, you didn't read.



http://www.youtube.com/watch

I'm not seeing it.

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MegaSovereign
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:21

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What the **** is Indoctrination?

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:22

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Explain the breath scene without using "bad writing" or handwaving.


And without requiring to meta-knowledge, such as "the file is named shepard lives".

Honestly I suppose the writer(s) just expected the player  to feel like "hell yeah my Shepard is still alive !!" without trying to figure out how it was even remotely possible. And it's the only thing that really annoys me about this ending, certainly because I'm one of those people who always need to rationalize everything.

Does it count as bad writing ? Perhaps.

Modifié par Gewehr_fr, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:22 .

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CynicalShep
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:22

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I never really believed that's Shepard to begin with. There are plenty of N7 marines in the Alliance, some of them must have survived. Besides, Shepard's armor is smoked and he either doesn't have the N7 tags on him or they're not visible throughout the game. Could very well be another N7 who will be the main char of the next game. That or it just wasn't thoroughly thought-out

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:23

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GT Zazzerka wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Shepard is completely vaporized. Explain the breath scene without using "bad riting" or handwaving.

That's the thing. You know full well we can't.

Thinly veiled IT thread is thinly veiled.


If you can't then there's something wrong with your interpretation. I'm open to all suggestions that make sense.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:23

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Lots of handwaving.

I'm not suprised. They can't explain it, so they don't even try. All because they don't want to admit the only rational explaination, for whatever twisted reasons they might have.

I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:24

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CynicalShep wrote...

I never really believed that's Shepard to begin with. There are plenty of N7 marines in the Alliance, some of them must have survived. Besides, Shepard's armor is smoked and he either doesn't have the N7 tags on him or they're not visible throughout the game. Could very well be another N7 who will be the main char of the next game. That or it just wasn't thoroughly thought-out


Wrong. It's Shepard. The file says so and Bioware has said so.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:25

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BleedingUranium wrote...

If you can't then there's something wrong with your interpretation. I'm open to all suggestions that make sense.

Bad writing and handwaving. These are just as viable as IT, if not more so. There doesn't always have to be a "master plan". Sometimes, people just balls something up.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:26

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BleedingUranium wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Shepard is completely vaporized. Explain the breath scene without using "bad riting" or handwaving.

That's the thing. You know full well we can't.

Thinly veiled IT thread is thinly veiled.


If you can't then there's something wrong with your interpretation. I'm open to all suggestions that make sense.


Lazarus project is impossible at face value. How does Shepard's brain stay intact?

Quit trying to cherry pick where to apply realism in fiction in order to justify your interpretation while discrediting others.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:32

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Lazarus project is impossible at face value. How does Shepard's brain stay intact?

Quit trying to cherry pick where to apply realism in fiction in order to justify your interpretation while discrediting others.


A long list of reasons make that very plausible.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:35

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's visible without flycam, you didn't read.



http://www.youtube.com/watch

I'm not seeing it.


30-33

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:42

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BleedingUranium wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

I never really believed that's Shepard to begin with. There are plenty of N7 marines in the Alliance, some of them must have survived. Besides, Shepard's armor is smoked and he either doesn't have the N7 tags on him or they're not visible throughout the game. Could very well be another N7 who will be the main char of the next game. That or it just wasn't thoroughly thought-out


Wrong. It's Shepard. The file says so and Bioware has said so.


I don't care about what the file says. Data-mining isn't how I explain what's going on in a game. I know that Bioware said that "the LI refuses to think they're dead" but it doesn't make much sense to me unless the part of the Citadel he's on didn't get destroyed by a good stroke of luck and he didn't bleed to death before all fleets that ran away from the explosions came back and picked him up

Modifié par CynicalShep, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:43 .

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KiwiQuiche
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:43

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Lol at people still trying to make sense of the endings.

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BleedingUranium
Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:47

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CynicalShep wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

I never really believed that's Shepard to begin with. There are plenty of N7 marines in the Alliance, some of them must have survived. Besides, Shepard's armor is smoked and he either doesn't have the N7 tags on him or they're not visible throughout the game. Could very well be another N7 who will be the main char of the next game. That or it just wasn't thoroughly thought-out


Wrong. It's Shepard. The file says so and Bioware has said so.


I don't care about what the file says. Data-mining isn't how I explain what's going on in a game. I know that Bioware said that "the LI refuses to think they're dead" but it doesn't make much sense to me unless the part of the Citadel he's on didn't get destroyed by a good stroke of luck and he didn't bleed to death before all fleets that ran away from the explosions came back and picked him up


So, handwaving then.

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Posté 21 janvier 2013 - 05:51

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He could've survived the tube blast and somehow made it to the beam which gave him a ride back to Earth.

I know we didn't see any visible point of re-entry for the beam but it is possible.

Modifié par MacroSpamMK, 21 janvier 2013 - 05:52 .

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