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[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

i think and (headcanon) that Shepard was pushed into the beam from the tube explosion ! this is how s/he is ended up on earth *and since shepard chosen destroy synthesis cant happen* but ppl say its the citadel which is impossible since it BLOWS UP >.> wtf how can it be the citadel > but to each there own

(yay headcanon!)

[BleedingUranium]

anorling wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

It's a ****** poor and unconvincing execution alright, but that can be said about a good chunk of the last few minutes of the game so nothing new there.

Got something that isn't "bad riting"?

Don't need more than that really.

Sometimes the most simple answer is the correct one

It's only an answer when there's nothing to counter it, and there are things to counter it.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:33 .

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

anorling wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Gam3Ov3r wrote...

 Maybe Shepard was some how teleported back to Earth.

Well, the Normandy did managed to teleport from space to Earth in five seconds during the conduit run, so it's not that far-fetched...

Never forget Twitter. Shepard is still on the Citadel

I just don't believe that the citadel blows up im sure Shepard can't wake up from that crap and twitter i mean TWITTER! poor emily 

[BleedingUranium]

Lokanaiya wrote...

You're straying from the subject here, which is the breath scene. But, to counter your examples of bad writing, I raise you one detailed Codex entry from Omega:

Ramport Mechs-
Though its initial invasion of Omega was successful. Cerberus was soon faced with the problem of controlling the station's large and often lawless population. An initial solution was to establish detainment  areas bordered with impassable force fields, believed to be sheets of plasma suspended in a magnetic field. As Cerberus tightened its control of the station, units that could pass freely through force fields to police the populace became necessary, leading Cerberus engineers to recover LOKI security mechs from the remaining Eclipse mercenary chapters. When upgraded with Cerberus's proprietary mini-fabrication technology, shielding recovered from Omega's element zero processing plants, and additional ablative armor, the result was the Rampart mech, a flexible combat unit designed for control and intimidation of Omega's inhabitants. Rampart mechs can seek out targets or troublemakers anywhere on Omega, even lower industrial areas where radiation can be intense. It is
fitted with infrasound and scent markers that are "fight or flight" triggers for several species and are intended to subdue or disperse a crowd. When necessary, Rampart mechs can channel all available power  into generating a high-intensity shield that defends against hacking or biotic attacks and weapons fire, protecting the Rampart until
reinforcements arrive. For combat, most Rampart mechs are equipped with a standard issue shotgun; if damaged beyond repair, the Rampart mech destroys the shotgun's aluminum-alloy heat-dispersal sinks, coating any nearby assailants in red-hot residue that burns through armor.

In extreme situations, the Rampart mech overclocks into a  "hunter-killer" mode, diverting power from its unique shields to single-mindedly destroy its target. In this mode, the Rampart mech moves faster, attacking with a flash-forged omni-blade that targets unprotected nerve clusters and immobilizes the luckless target. The
Rampart also channels excess heat through the dispersal sinks, visibly burning off material to create an intimidating display as it advances.

(Source)

One concerning an optional heavy weapon on the last level of Rannoch:

Like the geth plasma shotgun, the Spitfire is not a true energy weapon. Instead, the minigun magnetically flings clusters of superconducting toroids. These donut-shaped projectiles are designed to shatter upon impact, arcing electricity between the fragments and flash-converting them to plasma. The gun's punishing,
automatic blasts impact with the heat of a cutting torch. The weapon's stopping power has garnered the attention of both Alliance and quarian intelligence, who theorize that the Spitfire may have been designed to destroy other geth. Enough Spitfires have been found in the field to suggest that the weapon is out of the prototyping stage, and that a schism among synthetics may have forced them into production.

(Source)

And one massive Fridge Logic article from TV Tropes... And that's just the begining. There are MANY more detailed and scientifically accurate codex entries in Mass Effect.

Sorry, it's obvious ME writers put a lot of thought into what they wrote. Except for the ending apparently. Hmmm, I wonder why...

Great examples Lokanaiya!

Good writing can be shown, as it is here, but bad writing can only be shown if there are no alternatives.

[Omega Torsk]

MacroSpamMK wrote...

The eagles rescued him.

[The Heretic of Time]

We already know you believe in the IT, BleedingUranium. You don't need to make a million threads about it, preaching the gospel of the IT. I thought Chris Priestly made it perfectly clear that IT threads are no longer desired or even allowed on the BSN. You already have your little group for that.

Now Blur, explain to me the breath scene without using "indoctrination theory lulz" or handwaving.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:44 .

[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

We already know you believe in the IT, BleedingUranium. You don't need to make a million threads about it, preaching the gospel of the IT. I thought Chris Priestly made it perfectly clear that IT threads are no longer desired or even allowed on the BSN. You already have your little group for that.

This is not an IT thread, this is a thread pointing out a possible flaw in the game, and asking if there are legitimate ways to explain it.

[The Heretic of Time]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

We already know you believe in the IT, BleedingUranium. You don't need to make a million threads about it, preaching the gospel of the IT. I thought Chris Priestly made it perfectly clear that IT threads are no longer desired or even allowed on the BSN. You already have your little group for that.

This is not an IT thread, this is a thread pointing out a possible flaw in the game, and asking if there are legitimate ways to explain it.

This is not an IT thread in the same way as the Intelligent Design "theory" is not creationism. 

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:51 .

[KBomb]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

We already know you believe in the IT, BleedingUranium. You don't need to make a million threads about it, preaching the gospel of the IT. I thought Chris Priestly made it perfectly clear that IT threads are no longer desired or even allowed on the BSN. You already have your little group for that.

This is not an IT thread, this is a thread pointing out a possible flaw in the game, and asking if there are legitimate ways to explain it.

If the theory that he was instantly vaporized is legitimate, then the theory that he somehow survived the blast is just as legitimate.

[BleedingUranium]

Nope, I'm being scientific. I'm open to all legitimate suggestions. "bad riting" is not a legitimate explanation, do you have anything else?

KBomb wrote...

If the theory that he was instantly
vaporized is legitimate, then the theory that he somehow survived the
blast is just as legitimate.

Nope.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:54 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Explain the breath scene without using "indoctrination theory lulz" or handwaving. I'm still waiting.

[Siegdrifa]

Morigan's mother saved Shep, she changed into a giant bird, she did the same for my warden at ostagar.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:57 .

[Steelcan]

How is bad writing illegitimate? ME3 was hardly an achievement for coherent story telling.

[BleedingUranium]

IT does explain the breath scene, I don't need anything else. But if YOU can't come up with anything...

[KBomb]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Nope, I'm being scientific. I'm open to all legitimate suggestions. "bad riting" is not a legitimate explanation, do you have anything else?

If you were being scientific, you would have never stated the notion he was instantly and completely incinerated. That isn't being scientific.

[BleedingUranium]

Steelcan wrote...

How is bad writing illegitimate? ME3 was hardly an achievement for coherent story telling.

Because the game was near flawless before the getting lased by Harbinger.

KBomb wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Nope,
I'm being scientific. I'm open to all legitimate suggestions. "bad
riting" is not a legitimate explanation, do you have anything else?

If
you were being scientific, you would have never stated the notion he
was instantly and completely incinerated. That isn't being scientific.

I've shown that he is, move on please.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 07:59 .

[The Heretic of Time]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Nope, I'm being scientific. I'm open to all legitimate suggestions. "bad riting" is not a legitimate explanation, do you have anything else?

LMAO!. 

"lulz IT" is not a legitimate explanation, do you have anything else?

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 21 janvier 2013 - 08:01 .

[The Heretic of Time]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How is bad writing illegitimate? ME3 was hardly an achievement for coherent story telling.

Because the game was near flawless before the getting lased by Harbinger.

 Your jokes are getting better and better.

[CynicalShep]

You guys still talking about the breath scene?

[Steelcan]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

How is bad writing illegitimate? ME3 was hardly an achievement for coherent story telling.

Because the game was near flawless before the getting lased by Harbinger.

?  So Cerberus pulling an entire armada and thousand of troops out of thin air wasnt fantastical?  How about the repeat of Noveria?  Or how Legion is barely recognizable?  Or the butchery that was the Thane, Jacob, and Jack romances? How about retelling Miranda's LM as her conflict on ME3?  What about using WMDs in the game?  I thought the council was dead, not merely replaced.  Or Kai Leng's changes from book to game.  I could go on, but I'm tired.

[Seboist]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Because the game was near flawless before the getting lased by Harbinger.

:lol::lol:

You mean like the idiotic "Take back Earth" premise where the other races have no compelling reason to send forces to help while their worlds are burning until the Reapers conveniently UHAUL the citadel over there?

How about the derpy premise of recruiting man-lizard troops (Krogan) to fight a ground war against space mecha cthulhu dreadnoughts?

How about the organization of 150 that was later nearly all but destroyed by the turians in "Retribution" becoming a Galactic Sith Empire overnight?

[KBomb]

BleedingUranium wrote...

I've shown that he is, move on please.

You presented an argument that the breath scene couldn't be possible because Shepard was instantly and completely incinerated. Which is impossible. You opened a discussion stating he can't be alive because surviving the blast would be impossible, yet present a counterargument that is more impossible than the original scenario. You base this all on a few seconds of video that could be open to interpretation, i.e. a glitch or oversight.

Then you claim you're being scientific, but your whole argument is settled around a fallacy. You've been proven wrong, perhaps you should move on or just admit that if your logic is based around what is and isn't impossible, then him surviving is more plausible that being instantly vaporized.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

MacroSpamMK wrote...

The eagles rescued him.

[Lyrandori]

Who cares if Shepard survived or not, ME4 won't have Shepard, doesn't matter anymore. Make Shepard survive in your head-canon if you care, or let Shepard die from the game's "lore" if you don't care, either way it doesn't matter anymore as far as the franchise itself is concerned.

[Steelcan]

Seboist wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Because the game was near flawless before the getting lased by Harbinger.

:lol::lol:

You mean like the idiotic "Take back Earth" premise where the other races have no compelling reason to send forces to help while their worlds are burning until the Reapers conveniently UHAUL the citadel over there?

How about the derpy premise of recruiting man-lizard troops (Krogan) to fight a ground war against space mecha cthulhu dreadnoughts?

How about the organization of 150 that was later nearly all but destroyed by the turians in "Retribution" becoming a Galactic Sith Empire overnight?

. To be fair, the Krogan are there to stop the reaper ground troops on Palaven, not destroy ships.