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Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?

Lol wow. The implications here are hilarious.

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Because this is not a documentary, but science fiction.

You people are unbelievable. Do you really want to open a fresh pack of "how-did-character-X-survive-event-Y" in THIS franchise?
What you are (for whatever reason) trying to destroy here (pun intended) is btw the best video game second I ever had.

P.S.: I shouldn't be so cranky and more open-minded to people's opinions, I know. I'm just really tired of this "they can't do ANYTHING right" air in all these discussions.


I'm not saying that though, I'm merely asking what ways Shepard getting completely vaporized in Destroy can be explained.

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What about the Shepards who didn't make Jack more paragon? Some of us encouraged her on Pragia and had her kill Ahresh.

And you can't just hand wave a point I made. I raised a point about Thane and his character consistency, you can't ignore it.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Baelrahn wrote...

Because this is not a documentary, but science fiction.

You people are unbelievable. Do you really want to open a fresh pack of "how-did-character-X-survive-event-Y" in THIS franchise?
What you are (for whatever reason) trying to destroy here (pun intended) is btw the best video game second I ever had.

P.S.: I shouldn't be so cranky and more open-minded to people's opinions, I know. I'm just really tired of this "they can't do ANYTHING right" air in all these discussions.


I'm not saying that though, I'm merely asking what ways Shepard getting completely vaporized in Destroy can be explained.

. He isn't vaporized, simple enough.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm not saying that though, I'm merely asking what ways Shepard getting completely vaporized in Destroy can be explained.


No, you aren't. You're asking how he can have a breath scene considering, in your false statement, that Shepard was completely vaporized. No one other than you made that assumption.

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J. Reezy wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?

Lol wow. The implications here are hilarious.


To be fair, Miranda did kind of hint that Jacob was bad with relationships.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 21 janvier 2013 - 08:52 .


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OP, you do realize that all of those explosions and effects were placed for cinematic effect? They aren't meant to be viewed from different angles.

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Steelcan wrote...

What about the Shepards who didn't make Jack more paragon? Some of us encouraged her on Pragia and had her kill Ahresh.

And you can't just hand wave a point I made. I raised a point about Thane and his character consistency, you can't ignore it.


To bad for them, that's not what the narrative demands.

I didn't ignore the Thane point, but I've never romanced him.

Steelcan wrote...

He isn't vaporized, simple enough.


Yes, he is. It is a fact.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

I'm glad you read the clearly written part that said it's visible without flycam.


It isn't though.
You see Shepard shooting the tube, and then the tube explodes. When the tube explodes, you can still clearly see Shepard look as if he is diving/falling with his back turned to the explosion. Then it zooms out and you can sort of see the explosions dying down but visibility is still clouded by the smoke, so of course you can't see Shepard.

And like others have said, a small explosion like that cannot instantly vaporise Shepard unless the tube was actually an atomic bomb.

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Steelcan wrote...

What about the Shepards who didn't make Jack more paragon? Some of us encouraged her on Pragia and had her kill Ahresh.

And you can't just hand wave a point I made. I raised a point about Thane and his character consistency, you can't ignore it.


Wha, you wouldn't want someone who was taught a "bullet to the head solve everything" to teach your kids? :P

I'm afraid outside of Udina as councilor and keeping Collector base the Renegade "path" is a non-canon tacked on troll mode for more killing and explosions.

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OP, you do realize that all of those explosions and effects were placed for cinematic effect? They aren't meant to be viewed from different angles.


I'm talking specifically about the one scorch mark on the floor where Shepard was, just like where Nyreen was. And it's visible without flycam, for the 37 millionth time.

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He isn't vaporized. Your only "proof" comes from fly cam, which is very unreliable.

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Steelcan wrote...

He isn't vaporized. Your only "proof" comes from fly cam, which is very unreliable.


Then you didn't pay attention.

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Seboist wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

What about the Shepards who didn't make Jack more paragon? Some of us encouraged her on Pragia and had her kill Ahresh.

And you can't just hand wave a point I made. I raised a point about Thane and his character consistency, you can't ignore it.


Wha, you wouldn't want someone who was taught a "bullet to the head solve everything" to teach your kids? :P

I'm afraid outside of Udina as councilor and keeping Collector base the Renegade "path" is a non-canon tacked on troll mode for more killing and explosions.

. They even gave us Noveria again so we could make the right decision.

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J. Reezy wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?

Lol wow. The implications here are hilarious.


Racist implications are racist.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

He isn't vaporized. Your only "proof" comes from fly cam, which is very unreliable.


Then you didn't pay attention.

Sorry, a scorch mark.  Hardly compelling evidence.

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BleedingUranium wrote...


Yes, he is. It is a fact.


No, it isn't. By your own logic, it cannot be fact. You allow no room for impossibilities and Shepard being vaporized is impossible.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?

Lol wow. The implications here are hilarious.


To be fair, Miranda did kind of hint that Jacob was bad with relationships.

So did Jacob himself but I'm not one to jump straight to "cheating douchebag" as there are various ways one can be bad at relationships.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?


O wow, racist much?

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Hey OP, what ethnicity was your Shepard?

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J. Reezy wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?

Lol wow. The implications here are hilarious.


To be fair, Miranda did kind of hint that Jacob was bad with relationships.

So did Jacob himself but I'm not one to jump straight to "cheating douchebag" as there are various ways one can be bad at relationships.


I didn't think he was a douchebag for doing what he did. The "romance" in ME2 looked and felt like a fling anyway.

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Ladies and gentlemen, regardless of the logic at how we arrive there, the breath scene is possible because it is there. IT is not a requirement but if it's what you want...

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Steelcan wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

What about the Shepards who didn't make Jack more paragon? Some of us encouraged her on Pragia and had her kill Ahresh.

And you can't just hand wave a point I made. I raised a point about Thane and his character consistency, you can't ignore it.


Wha, you wouldn't want someone who was taught a "bullet to the head solve everything" to teach your kids? :P

I'm afraid outside of Udina as councilor and keeping Collector base the Renegade "path" is a non-canon tacked on troll mode for more killing and explosions.

. They even gave us Noveria again so we could make the right decision.


To be fair the Rachni plot in 3 just sucks ass period. For the Paragons th Queen turns into Princess Peach and they never get to see those previously mentioned soldiers, brood warriors and ships(not even as "war assets").

The Rachni plot is general is a good example of how the whole hyped import mechanic turned out to be a great dud.

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Steelcan wrote...

They even gave us Noveria again so we could make the right decision.


That was a weaker moment (only if you killed her), but it's also been acknowledged by Bioware as something they wanted to do differently. Since they owned up to it, I don't mind.

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jacob is now a cheating dirtbag


You really find that surprising?


O wow, racist much?


You think I thought that because he was black? LOL

No, I thought that because of his playa let's spill some drinks attitude.

ReconTeam wrote...

Hey OP, what ethnicity was your Shepard?


Sheploo, so white. Both because I like Sheploo and because I'm white and have blue eyes and always have a 5 o'clock shadow like him. And because I suck at making faces.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 21 janvier 2013 - 09:05 .


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MegaSovereign wrote...

I didn't think he was a douchebag for doing what he did. The "romance" in ME2 looked and felt like a fling anyway.


They all did. They failed to convince me that a handful of brief convos and a one minute "love scene" is "twu wub".