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[Wayning_Star]

dbollendorf wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

If I call the next game ME4 is simply shorthand, until the offical title is announced. 

chris seems to infer, rather pointedly, the 4 on the end revitalizes the next "ME" game as associated with ME 1,2,3 and that's not acceptable from his point of view. We should probably defer to the experts on it, or insiders as the case may be?

The next Mass Effect is 4 until we get the real name just like the next Xbox is the 720 and next Playstation is the PS4 until we get their real names.  It's the best we have till the real name is released.

I suppose, eventhough its in direct contradiction of Chris's post on that very subject. It would appear to me that bioware/or chris, don't want fans assuming that 4 should be anything else. So as the fans don't get confused by hopes and dreams'n such about the next game coming years from now. I'm gonna call it ME# lol

[crimzontearz]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

 
Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

[PainCakesx]

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

 
Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

It does seem that he's possibly implying an alternate universe (big mistake IMO), or perhaps that he's saying in a rather confusing manner not to assume where in the overall timeline it will be taking place?

Modifié par PainCakesx, 25 janvier 2013 - 08:14 .

[Galbrant]

They can start by giving us a coherent story and not screwing the player over in the last 20 minutes.

[Wayning_Star]

PainCakesx wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

 
Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

It does seem that he's possibly implying an alternate universe (big mistake IMO), or perhaps that he's saying in a rather confusing manner not to assume where in the overall timeline it will be taking place?

actually, I think he's teasing someone, as to their frames of references, even his own isn't canon.

Same universe, alternate stories. (with possibly alternate 'players'.)

[EagleScoutDJB]

Wayning_Star wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

If I call the next game ME4 is simply shorthand, until the offical title is announced. 

chris seems to infer, rather pointedly, the 4 on the end revitalizes the next "ME" game as associated with ME 1,2,3 and that's not acceptable from his point of view. We should probably defer to the experts on it, or insiders as the case may be?

The next Mass Effect is 4 until we get the real name just like the next Xbox is the 720 and next Playstation is the PS4 until we get their real names.  It's the best we have till the real name is released.

I suppose, eventhough its in direct contradiction of Chris's post on that very subject. It would appear to me that bioware/or chris, don't want fans assuming that 4 should be anything else. So as the fans don't get confused by hopes and dreams'n such about the next game coming years from now. I'm gonna call it ME# lol

It's to early in development for anything they say to be taken to heart.  The only things I know for sure about the next game is that it's going to be the forth game in the Mass Effect universe, which is why I think of it as ME4, and that it's being made by Bioware Montreal.  Anything beyond that is just a guess based on what we know from ME 1-3 and Bioware's history.

[crimzontearz]

PainCakesx wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

 
Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

It does seem that he's possibly implying an alternate universe (big mistake IMO), or perhaps that he's saying in a rather confusing manner not to assume where in the overall timeline it will be taking place?

did I not address that already?.

[MattFini]

Confirmed:

Alternate timeline akin to Abrams' Trek!

[Rip504]

They failed to do so in ME-ME3,what kind of absurd thread is this?

Modifié par Rip504, 25 janvier 2013 - 08:44 .

[Mcfly616]

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

 
Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

its called an Alternate Reality.

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

Concurrent, but separated?

As in, just spitballing, another galaxy with no chronological relationship to the Milky Way.

[Zkyire]

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".

If ME4 isn't set before, during or after the events of ME1, 2, or 3, the only option left is a reboot.

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can't go into detail for fear of accidentally saying the little that I know. And keep in mind that the little I know can change, so even what I know today may not be valid in a month or a quarter or a year, etc. So I definietely don't want you to think "Priestly says X so it must be X (or since many don't trust me, Y)".

As for Crimsontearz's comment, they stated it MUST be X or Y in their opinion. That does not make it so. It just means that they think only X or Y must be valid. To me, that severely limits the remainder of the alphabet of imagination.

Sure, and your alternative to "before, during or after" is?

Concurrent, but separated?

As in, just spitballing, another galaxy with no chronological relationship to the Milky Way.

I addressed that....

[Wayning_Star]

[/quote]

chris seems to infer, rather pointedly, the 4 on the end revitalizes the next "ME" game as associated with ME 1,2,3 and that's not acceptable from his point of view. We should probably defer to the experts on it, or insiders as the case may be?[/quote]
The next Mass Effect is 4 until we get the real name just like the next Xbox is the 720 and next Playstation is the PS4 until we get their real names.  It's the best we have till the real name is released.

[/quote]

I suppose, eventhough its in direct contradiction of Chris's post on that very subject. It would appear to me that bioware/or chris, don't want fans assuming that 4 should be anything else. So as the fans don't get confused by hopes and dreams'n such about the next game coming years from now. I'm gonna call it ME# lol[/quote]
It's to early in development for anything they say to be taken to heart.  The only things I know for sure about the next game is that it's going to be the forth game in the Mass Effect universe, which is why I think of it as ME4, and that it's being made by Bioware Montreal.  Anything beyond that is just a guess based on what we know from ME 1-3 and Bioware's history.

[/quote]

Yet it appears we're contexting apples from oranges. The association part is null, if you take Chris litterally as an authority on/of the subject matter. There, apparently will be NO mass effect 4, so as to relate to that is incorrect and could lead to the ideal that there will be a direct relationship to ME 123. Apparently there won't be. According to Chris's OP on that subject.

The next ME game will be independent of earlier itteration, as it were, if we can take Chris's post as a warning/tip/teaser.

[Iakus]

PainCakesx wrote...

It does seem that he's possibly implying an alternate universe (big mistake IMO), or perhaps that he's saying in a rather confusing manner not to assume where in the overall timeline it will be taking place?

I dunno.  I do't think "alternate universe" is the worst direction they could take.

Clear the rubble, then rebuild.

[mmmpollo]

Sigh...

Chris enters a speculation thread and essentially proceeds to dismiss everyone's speculations with no specifics and an inability to elaborate. Going further to say nothing is decided or final, meaning "don't speculate, cause we ourselves don't know yet." Why discuss anything at all?

In any case, I would have to agree with pretty much everyone with regards to possibilities. To say "sequel" is to discuss chronologically where the next story bit takes place. It's either before, during, or after, even if the characters are different. If it's in a different universe but the same theme, then they're pulling a "final fantasy" to which I would say you're better off starting a new IP. Cause people want to see cohesiveness in characters, not in sci fi concepts.

Calling it mass effect with an unrelated storyline and different characters with no reference to previous games makes no one happy.

[PainCakesx]

iakus wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

It does seem that he's possibly implying an alternate universe (big mistake IMO), or perhaps that he's saying in a rather confusing manner not to assume where in the overall timeline it will be taking place?

I dunno.  I do't think "alternate universe" is the worst direction they could take.

Clear the rubble, then rebuild.

You'd be fine with a game with virtually no similarity to the current MEU?

[liggy002]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Dunno. I could speculate on it though.



On a slightly more serious note; no they will not be able to keep everyone happy. Hell, they couldn't even do a conclusion without pissing off over half of their fanbase. Move to a different pasture, I say.

  They cant keep everyone happy sure but the reason that half the fan base, including myself, is pissed off is because they didn't do the ending justice.  And they expect me to get ME4?  Fat chance.

[liggy002]

mmmpollo wrote...

Sigh...

Chris enters a speculation thread and essentially proceeds to dismiss everyone's speculations with no specifics and an inability to elaborate. Going further to say nothing is decided or final, meaning "don't speculate, cause we ourselves don't know yet." Why discuss anything at all?

In any case, I would have to agree with pretty much everyone with regards to possibilities. To say "sequel" is to discuss chronologically where the next story bit takes place. It's either before, during, or after, even if the characters are different. If it's in a different universe but the same theme, then they're pulling a "final fantasy" to which I would say you're better off starting a new IP. Cause people want to see cohesiveness in characters, not in sci fi concepts.

Calling it mass effect with an unrelated storyline and different characters with no reference to previous games makes no one happy.

Very true.

[Wayning_Star]

liggy002 wrote...

mmmpollo wrote...

Sigh...

Chris enters a speculation thread and essentially proceeds to dismiss everyone's speculations with no specifics and an inability to elaborate. Going further to say nothing is decided or final, meaning "don't speculate, cause we ourselves don't know yet." Why discuss anything at all?

In any case, I would have to agree with pretty much everyone with regards to possibilities. To say "sequel" is to discuss chronologically where the next story bit takes place. It's either before, during, or after, even if the characters are different. If it's in a different universe but the same theme, then they're pulling a "final fantasy" to which I would say you're better off starting a new IP. Cause people want to see cohesiveness in characters, not in sci fi concepts.

Calling it mass effect with an unrelated storyline and different characters with no reference to previous games makes no one happy.

Very true.

doesn't make me 'unhappy' tho.. strange that!

[Wayning_Star]

mmmpollo wrote...

Sigh...

Chris enters a speculation thread and essentially proceeds to dismiss everyone's speculations with no specifics and an inability to elaborate. Going further to say nothing is decided or final, meaning "don't speculate, cause we ourselves don't know yet." Why discuss anything at all?

In any case, I would have to agree with pretty much everyone with regards to possibilities. To say "sequel" is to discuss chronologically where the next story bit takes place. It's either before, during, or after, even if the characters are different. If it's in a different universe but the same theme, then they're pulling a "final fantasy" to which I would say you're better off starting a new IP. Cause people want to see cohesiveness in characters, not in sci fi concepts.

Calling it mass effect with an unrelated storyline and different characters with no reference to previous games makes no one happy.

well, walking on thin ice is kind of tricky...

[Iakus]

PainCakesx wrote...

You'd be fine with a game with virtually no similarity to the current MEU?

A world with no asari, turians, mass relays, or biotics?  No, there'd be no point in calling it "Mass Effect" then.

But a Mass Effect game with no connection to Shepard, the Reapers, or RGB?  Like I said, there are worse ideas.

[PainCakesx]

iakus wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

You'd be fine with a game with virtually no similarity to the current MEU?

A world with no asari, turians, mass relays, or biotics?  No, there'd be no point in calling it "Mass Effect" then.

But a Mass Effect game with no connection to Shepard, the Reapers, or RGB?  Like I said, there are worse ideas.

Oh, well this I'd be willing to consider. Some were talking about setting it in a completely different galaxy, or so far ahead or behind in time that the universe is effectively unrecognizable. That was what I took issue with.

Modifié par PainCakesx, 25 janvier 2013 - 09:16 .

[DreGregoire]

Alternate universe? I don't think so, it will still be the Mass Effect Universe, and if it's after Shepard saves the galaxy then likely there will be minor mention of the Shepard; however, as we know the Citadel counsel and the Alliance has made a habit of changing the facts to suit their own view of things and as an effort to hide the true nature of things from the public.

The make up of the the Galatic government makes it very easy to hide things from the general public. Particulary seeing as the ruling body (four races; Asari, Salarian, Turian, Human) do everything behind closed doors.

Although I would love to see how the various endings impact the Mass Effect Universe in the future, I can certainly understand what a headache it might be to include that in the future ME games. If they just pick one of the endings I could deal with that and go forward (that would be that alternate universe if your Shepard picked a different ending but only in a head canon kind of way.)

Edit: And I don't know how devs manage not to give things away, it would be driving me nuts not being able to share what I know. LOL!

Edit edit: I always thought, if you pick the control ending, it would be neat to see the Reapers (in the next game) working to keep the Galaxy safe.

Modifié par DreGregoire, 25 janvier 2013 - 09:28 .

[mmmpollo]

If it takes place in the same universe and is not a prequel, Shepard will have to be referenced since he fought a galaxy wide war. Nothing was more important than reaper at he front door unless you talk pre me3 when not everyone knew about them.

I would say most prequels are inherently harder to pull off and I wouldn't want to see one.

That leaves alternate universe where you can still have turians, asari, etc which is final fantasy-esque. Could work but I don't care about ME beyond the characters. It just becomes another story about mass relays and biotics.