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Epic777 wrote...

About a ME:MMO, EA might be the incarnation of the devil in the eyes of the gaming community however they are not fools. EA will NEVER fund another Bioware MMO, look at what happened to SWTOR


One of the few plusses about having greedy buisnessmen/women at the helm...if they did make an MMORPG, that would be the tipping point. No more ME for me.

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About a ME:MMO, EA might be the incarnation of the devil in the eyes of the gaming community however they are not fools. EA will NEVER fund another Bioware MMO, look at what happened to SWTOR


I haven't even tried that game, is it any good?

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Sion1138 wrote...

Epic777 wrote...

About a ME:MMO, EA might be the incarnation of the devil in the eyes of the gaming community however they are not fools. EA will NEVER fund another Bioware MMO, look at what happened to SWTOR


I haven't even tried that game, is it any good?


It has not meet expecations, EA has gone to 'free to play'

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I haven't read the entire thread so I apologize if this possibility has already been put forth:

The next ME game is a reboot, a la J.J. Abrams' Star Trek.


I don't see how it could be a reboot. They explicitely said no more Shepard. A reboot... would kind of have to have a Commander Shepard.


Not necessarily. The original Kirk's story is done, but the new Kirk's story has just begun. In the same way, our Shepard's story is done, while the new Shepard's story will have only just begun.

Obi Wan's words about truth and a certain point of view may apply.

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A reboot would be kinda lame IMO. If they want, a remastered version of ME1 would be epic. (Kinda like what was done with Halo)

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MutoidMan wrote...
Not necessarily. The original Kirk's story is done, but the new Kirk's story has just begun. In the same way, our Shepard's story is done, while the new Shepard's story will have only just begun.

Obi Wan's words about truth and a certain point of view may apply.


I just find it absurd to think they're going to reboot it.

Why would they? Do they think people are going to want to replay the first game with shiny graphics because of the nostalgia? It'd be the same damn story over again. Hell, they could even reuse the same dialogue if they wanted to!

No, the next game isn't going to be a reboot, Shepard's story is done, that's it, game over. They are set on telling a new story. The only question is what story is it going to be?

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Star Trek's reboot has gone well so far, so I don't think it's impossible, however implausible.

I'm just trying to use my imagination! ;-)

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MutoidMan wrote...

Star Trek's reboot has gone well so far, so I don't think it's impossible, however implausible.

I'm just trying to use my imagination! ;-)


Only thing is, they rebooted a series that was decades old. Kirk's story was done for a really long time. Rebooting a series that, hasn't even completely wrapped up yet (with this next DLC), doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I can logically see it being a prequel, sequel, or midquel and being well executed. Just can't see that happening with a reboot.

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MutoidMan wrote...
imagination!


Ugh, you're getting it all over the place. I'll be in here with a mop for weeks getting this cleaned up.

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k.lalh wrote...

MutoidMan wrote...

Star Trek's reboot has gone well so far, so I don't think it's impossible, however implausible.

I'm just trying to use my imagination! ;-)


Only thing is, they rebooted a series that was decades old. Kirk's story was done for a really long time. Rebooting a series that, hasn't even completely wrapped up yet (with this next DLC), doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I can logically see it being a prequel, sequel, or midquel and being well executed. Just can't see that happening with a reboot.


I agree; however, Chris Priestly seems to be hinting that none of the quels are in the cards, so what's left?

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MutoidMan wrote...
I agree; however, Chris Priestly seems to be hinting that none of the quels are in the cards, so what's left?


No, he's screwing with you by basically saying "you don't know a damn thing but you'll take away what you want from this anyway".

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

MutoidMan wrote...
I agree; however, Chris Priestly seems to be hinting that none of the quels are in the cards, so what's left?


No, he's screwing with you by basically saying "you don't know a damn thing but you'll take away what you want from this anyway".


I'm not taking anything away from what he's saying, I'm simply bringing up another possibility for people to chew on. I have no idea what the next ME will be about, but then neither does everyone who's not working on the next ME, so why not consider something different?

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Time travel/parallel universe? What could possibly go wrong?

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 26 janvier 2013 - 01:47 .


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MutoidMan wrote...
I'm not taking anything away from what he's saying, I'm simply bringing up another possibility for people to chew on. I have no idea what the next ME will be about, but then neither does everyone who's not working on the next ME, so why not consider something different?

It would probably be too ambitious, but I think it would be neat if the new game took place mostly in a new galaxy. So the main character (and majority of crew) could originate from the home system we are all familiar with from the first trilogy and set off to explore the new galaxy for whatever reason.

I'm not sure the next game would truly feel like Mass Effect without the some human, asari, and turian characters. But I miss the feeling of ME1 where you get to meet a bunch of new races for the first time. It would be cool to get to experience that again.

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Missy_MI wrote...

MutoidMan wrote...
I'm not taking anything away from what he's saying, I'm simply bringing up another possibility for people to chew on. I have no idea what the next ME will be about, but then neither does everyone who's not working on the next ME, so why not consider something different?

It would probably be too ambitious, but I think it would be neat if the new game took place mostly in a new galaxy. So the main character (and majority of crew) could originate from the home system we are all familiar with from the first trilogy and set off to explore the new galaxy for whatever reason.

I'm not sure the next game would truly feel like Mass Effect without the some human, asari, and turian characters. But I miss the feeling of ME1 where you get to meet a bunch of new races for the first time. It would be cool to get to experience that again.


I think that travelling to Andromeda would be an interesting idea, so long as there are human, asari, turian etc. characters. Without them, it wouldn't be Mass Effect aside from the name. 

Introducing new races could definitely happen - within the existing MEU new races are uplifted / discovered all the time.

Modifié par PainCakesx, 26 janvier 2013 - 03:16 .


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MutoidMan wrote...

k.lalh wrote...

MutoidMan wrote...

Star Trek's reboot has gone well so far, so I don't think it's impossible, however implausible.

I'm just trying to use my imagination! ;-)


Only thing is, they rebooted a series that was decades old. Kirk's story was done for a really long time. Rebooting a series that, hasn't even completely wrapped up yet (with this next DLC), doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I can logically see it being a prequel, sequel, or midquel and being well executed. Just can't see that happening with a reboot.


I agree; however, Chris Priestly seems to be hinting that none of the quels are in the cards, so what's left?



Full-on multiplayer with a paper thin 10 hour "campaign mode"? :devil:

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What gives you the idea they want to keep everyone happy?

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They couldn't possibly come close even if they wanted to.

And the reboot (with Shepard) talk in this page doesn't make sense to me. You really think Bioware wants to risk provoking Ending-hatred times a billion by rebooting the entire series with Shepard all over again?

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Full-on multiplayer with a paper thin 10 hour "campaign mode"? :devil:


Touché.

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MutoidMan wrote...

iakus wrote...
Full-on multiplayer with a paper thin 10 hour "campaign mode"? :devil:


Touché.


Gotta admit, there's a nonzero chance of that happening. Especially with the "must have multipayer" philosophy. ;)

As to a reboot, perhaps the only thing that's been definitively said about the next Mass Effect game is that SHepard would not be in it.  

I suppose we could have a "Commander Goatherd" though...<_<

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I'm fairly certain everyone is aware there are many ways of doing another Mass Effect game, I think people are just speculating what would be successful and what wouldn't be. You could do anything. Reboot, cannon ending, prequel, seperate universe but similar species completely ignoring the other game.... even convincing EA to fund another MMORPG on the basis of a disgruntled fan base split by controversy and forgetting about another MMORPG with a much broader fan base which is not looked upon with fondness by investors.

I think people are just speculating what would be successful. Anyone could come up with an idea, but someone with a critical mind would have to come in and say "no, no. This is a bad idea.... you're going to loose ground if you do this." I mean, look at the ending.... huge disappointment. I'm sure the writers are very proud of it or whatever, but moving pride aside, it was a huge distraction. Some people liked it, a lot of people didn't. It was a way to go, but I don't think anyone with any sense of critical thought would say it was the best case scenario or would be considered "successful". Ending an epic game with a ghost kid, circular logic, a magic device that reshapes the universe arbitrarily and forcing an amusing false red green blue choice that will be mocked for years and forever follow them around on all future endeavors may be considered a bad choice but it was an option and they went with and are proud of.

Basically, it's at least 3 years away, so hopefully people will forget the burn of Mass Effect 3's utter disappointment...then again, lost series finale was 3 years ago... Phantom menace was 14 years ago.... and Mass Effect's ending was at least as bad.

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thefallen2far wrote...

I'm fairly certain everyone is aware there are many ways of doing another Mass Effect game, I think people are just speculating what would be successful and what wouldn't be. You could do anything. Reboot, cannon ending, prequel, seperate universe but similar species completely ignoring the other game.... even convincing EA to fund another MMORPG on the basis of a disgruntled fan base split by controversy and forgetting about another MMORPG with a much broader fan base which is not looked upon with fondness by investors.

I think people are just speculating what would be successful. Anyone could come up with an idea, but someone with a critical mind would have to come in and say "no, no. This is a bad idea.... you're going to loose ground if you do this." I mean, look at the ending.... huge disappointment. I'm sure the writers are very proud of it or whatever, but moving pride aside, it was a huge distraction. Some people liked it, a lot of people didn't. It was a way to go, but I don't think anyone with any sense of critical thought would say it was the best case scenario or would be considered "successful". Ending an epic game with a ghost kid, circular logic, a magic device that reshapes the universe arbitrarily and forcing an amusing false red green blue choice that will be mocked for years and forever follow them around on all future endeavors may be considered a bad choice but it was an option and they went with and are proud of.

Basically, it's at least 3 years away, so hopefully people will forget the burn of Mass Effect 3's utter disappointment...then again, lost series finale was 3 years ago... Phantom menace was 14 years ago.... and Mass Effect's ending was at least as bad.


I like the saying "You can call Fecal Sculptures art all you want, in the end it's still a pile of ****."
I really don't see the core fan base forgetting the ending... ever. Bioware Montreal has their work cut out for them.  :unsure:

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I like the saying "You can call Fecal Sculptures art all you want, in the end it's still a pile of ****."


I don't.  After all, a painting's nothing but a bunch of oily colored crap slathered onto stretched heavy-duty fabric.

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To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.


Nicely said - I think this needs to be shouted from the rooftops by Bioware devs, because a *lot* of misconceptions (or hopeful delusions) persist about the Montreal ME game.

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dreamgazer wrote...

NightShadow1800 wrote...

I like the saying "You can call Fecal Sculptures art all you want, in the end it's still a pile of ****."


I don't.  After all, a painting's nothing but a bunch of oily colored crap slathered onto stretched heavy-duty fabric.


Haha well enjoy your **** and don't worry about it.  ;)