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Hope it will be prequel of Mass Effect. Something about how Humans discovered first technology of ancients race's on mars and opened mass relays. About war betwen Human's and Turians. It could be really cool game. And we will play for admiral Anderson. Hope so))

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They clearly do not care about making the fans happy with Mass Effect 3, what makes you think they will change their minds with Mass Effect 4?

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avatar0 wrote...

They clearly do not care about making the fans happy with Mass Effect 3, what makes you think they will change their minds with Mass Effect 4?


New tagline "Almost 5% of you will like it!".

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It wouldn't surprise me if BioWare decides to have the next game set waaaay into the future so they won't have to have throwbacks to the current trilogy.
Starting from the time this last DLC comes, Shepard is history. He/she is gone forever and BioWare will be happy about it. Now, we, the "minority of fans", hopefully, will stop complaining.

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I'm guessing a short, linear vehicle for micro-transactions with an emphasis on multiplayer. It'll look pretty, make no sense and be profoundly unsatisfying for anyone who gives a damn about the universe.

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They aren't.


This. And, more importantly, they shouldn't.

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I don't think I would like a prequel. Two of my favorite things about ME were the epic scale and the fact that I didn't know how things were going to turn out. Not sure how you could do this with a prequel because we all know how things turn out. You could do a story from a previous reaper "cycle" but is it really the ME universe then? Also, we know that in the end they're wiped out by the reapers. Unless maybe they travelled through time to the current cycle and caused an alternate timeline or some other crazy stuff

If you look at the dragon age series, I really enjoyed DA2 even though there was very little continuity from the original. The choices from DA1 provided a backdrop for a few scenes but had no real impact on the story arc. Why couldn't you do that with ME4 (or ME.next, whatever you want to call it)?

On the other hand, what makes mass effect better than the DA series is that I felt emotionally invested in my Shepherd so ideally it would be a multi-part series starting at ME4 where the characters and choices from ME4 onward would provide more continuity.

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Guys, I think I get it! The next Mass Effect saga isn't gonna have Shepard... or any of the characters we know and love! It's basically going to be a parallel universe with the same races, same tech, same locations, but a completely different timeline of events!

In effect... it's going to be a total and complete retconning of the Mass Effect universe!

:)

:mellow:

:o

I KNEW IT!!!!

Well played, Bioware... well played, indeed...

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I'd wager a Reboot based on what Chris said...Then again hard to trust that guy.

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Do you remember when Liara basically mind-raped Shepard before he/she went on the final push to the beam?
Well here is ME4:

200 years in the future, the protagonist is a non-blue asari with a red strip down it's right arm.
No need to worry about LI's because Asari's can mate with anyone or any race. No need to make two different player models, no male or female involved. Only need one voice actor.

Goal, to find it's biological father's body of course. Just think of all of the wacky adventures.

Holy hell, BW should hire me.

:)

Modifié par Raanz, 19 mars 2013 - 06:02 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



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A game "set in the Mass Effect Universe" which bears no relationship to past or future events of the existing material at all is not set in the Mass Effect Universe, which experienced those events.

A game set in the present of any of the three existing games would be "off to the side," like Halo ODST. And that would be terrible - any decision to follow that route would aggravate people and produce mediocre results.

Now me, I'd drop the prospect like a hot potato if it focuses on established characters. This might just be me, but I look at games as enjoying a new story, not revisiting old friends in their new place and seeing how they're doing. And a prequel would disgust me. But "Mass Effect Universe" doesn't just mean mass relays and Reapers, it means the established societies and events depicted in the Mass Effect games. If you don't come before or after those events, and they aren't happening now, then you're in another universe, whether there are mass relays or not.

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1) We don't know where in the timeline the next game is being set.

2) There will never be a solution that satisfies everyone.

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My suggestions would be:

1. A far FAR future scenario.
2. A scenario set in a different part of the universe.
3. A split timeline midquel, depicting events from The First Contact War and The Miracle of Palaven.

(Arranged in order of most to least likely, with the last being little more than wishful thinking on my part).

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 I assume if they want to make a sequel they will about have to canon one of the endings.

the forums will turn into a battleground with people complaining about how their ending was not picked, Seems the forums will never be at peace.

Modifié par Venom man4, 19 mars 2013 - 06:48 .


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[quote]Megaton_Hope wrote...
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A game "set in the Mass Effect Universe" which bears no relationship to past or future events of the existing material at all is not set in the Mass Effect Universe, which experienced those events.

A game set in the present of any of the three existing games would be "off to the side," like Halo ODST. And that would be terrible - any decision to follow that route would aggravate people and produce mediocre results.

Now me, I'd drop the prospect like a hot potato if it focuses on established characters. This might just be me, but I look at games as enjoying a new story, not revisiting old friends in their new place and seeing how they're doing. And a prequel would disgust me. But "Mass Effect Universe" doesn't just mean mass relays and Reapers, it means the established societies and events depicted in the Mass Effect games. If you don't come before or after those events, and they aren't happening now, then you're in another universe, whether there are mass relays or not.
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It's just talk to shut people up. I honestly think BW has no effing clue what they're talking about.

And I don't care. ME4 isn't going to keep me happy. I'm not going to give it that chance. ME3 couldn't even keep me happy.

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Short answer? They're not. I foresee it's going to be just as polarizing as ME3's ending.

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Venom man4 wrote...

 I assume if they want to make a sequel they will about have to canon one of the endings.

the forums will turn into a battleground with people complaining about how their ending was not picked, Seems the forums will never be at peace.


With the overwhelming popularity of destroy, those complaints would be drowned out. Unless of course the canon end wasn't destroy, in which case, good luck with that. 

Based on Chris's comments though, I have no faith in BW even trying to canonize one of the endings. 

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they'll probably make it a prequel so they don't have to fix the ending, but as bioware has clearly shown that it doesn't give a sh*t about what the fans would have liked, i probably won't buy it, not to mention the bad memories i now associate with the mass effect series (which is a shame because it could have been one of the best) :'(

Modifié par tickle267, 19 mars 2013 - 05:43 .


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The game opens with Shepard drawing his pistol and walking down the ramp towards the destroy ending.

"You must choose." You hear spoken in the Starchilds voice.

Shepard closes his eyes and lets out a deep sigh, then aims his pistol, frowns, and unloads his gun into the machine.

Immediately, explosions go off all around him and the screen quickly shifts from fiery death to Shepard waking up from sleep, gasping for breath and soaked in sweat.

The screen pans to show Liara laying beside him. She sits up slowly, worry evident on her face.

"Shepard, what's wrong?!"

Shepard turns to face her and gives a sad smile.

"Nothing's wrong sweetheart." he says in a comforting voice. "A bad dream is all..."

They embrace and get to makin' with the love.

You then defeat the Reaper's legitimately, using the forces you gathered throughout ME3. Once that's done, you celebrate, marry Liara, have lots of blue babies, and open up a space roller disco with your best bud Garrus.

The game takes 5 hours to complete and sold more copies then any game in Bioware history.

Your Welcome.

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Fraq Hound wrote...

The game opens with Shepard drawing his pistol and walking down the ramp towards the destroy ending.

"You must choose." You hear spoken in the Starchilds voice.

Shepard closes his eyes and lets out a deep sigh, then aims his pistol, frowns, and unloads his gun into the machine.

Immediately, explosions go off all around him and the screen quickly shifts from fiery death to Shepard waking up from sleep, gasping for breath and soaked in sweat.

The screen pans to show Liara laying beside him. She sits up slowly, worry evident on her face.

"Shepard, what's wrong?!"

Shepard turns to face her and gives a sad smile.

"Nothing's wrong sweetheart." he says in a comforting voice. "A bad dream is all..."

They embrace and get to makin' with the love.

You then defeat the Reaper's legitimately, using the forces you gathered throughout ME3. Once that's done, you celebrate, marry Liara, have lots of blue babies, and open up a space roller disco with your best bud Garrus.

The game takes 5 hours to complete and sold more copies then any game in Bioware history.

Your Welcome.


you are a god + liara FTW

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they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone

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ghost9191 wrote...

they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone


yes, but you can atleast please most people, some extra closure for ME3 could have been enough but bioware decided to be stubborn, stick with their nonsensical ending and p*ss everyone off.

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tickle267 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone


yes, but you can atleast please most people, some extra closure for ME3 could have been enough but bioware decided to be stubborn, stick with their nonsensical ending and p*ss everyone off.


true but i was talking about ME4 lol

i have thoughts about ME3... but the citadel dlc was probably their attempt to please everyone . welll maybe

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ghost9191 wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone


yes, but you can atleast please most people, some extra closure for ME3 could have been enough but bioware decided to be stubborn, stick with their nonsensical ending and p*ss everyone off.


true but i was talking about ME4 lol

i have thoughts about ME3... but the citadel dlc was probably their attempt to please everyone . welll maybe


Citadel was a gift basket to keep people from leaving Mass Effect behind entirely.  It doesn't actually address any of the problems, but is designed to let people go on a happier note in hopes they'll come back for ME4 (or whatever it gets called).

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iakus wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone


yes, but you can atleast please most people, some extra closure for ME3 could have been enough but bioware decided to be stubborn, stick with their nonsensical ending and p*ss everyone off.


true but i was talking about ME4 lol

i have thoughts about ME3... but the citadel dlc was probably their attempt to please everyone . welll maybe


Citadel was a gift basket to keep people from leaving Mass Effect behind entirely.  It doesn't actually address any of the problems, but is designed to let people go on a happier note in hopes they'll come back for ME4 (or whatever it gets called).


happier note? it just made the series even more depressing, knowing how good it could have been.