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[Iakus]

tickle267 wrote...

iakus wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

they can't... even in the best of times you can't please everyone

yes, but you can atleast please most people, some extra closure for ME3 could have been enough but bioware decided to be stubborn, stick with their nonsensical ending and p*ss everyone off.

true but i was talking about ME4 lol

i have thoughts about ME3... but the citadel dlc was probably their attempt to please everyone . welll maybe

Citadel was a gift basket to keep people from leaving Mass Effect behind entirely.  It doesn't actually address any of the problems, but is designed to let people go on a happier note in hopes they'll come back for ME4 (or whatever it gets called).

happier note? it just made the series even more depressing, knowing how good it could have been.

Well, yeah.  But the answer there is to just put the game down and walk away after the party

[ghost9191]

well my point is made at least lol... you can't make everyone happy =)

[Pcmag1]

Well, if you consider that Star Gazer makes very little sense whatever ending you chose. I don't think Bioware will limit itself by such trivialities like logic.

[Outsider edge]

The Citadel DLC actually emphasized what made this series great to begin with. Namely it's characters and not necessarily it's background story. It's also the reason why one could raise serious questions about Mass Effect:Next since Bioware seems intent on seperating it from the first games.

The new game will very likely feature a whole new cast. And that is something that can be hit or miss. Now i consider Bioware still as one of the best companies in creating believable and original characters. Heck the ME trilogy is probably the best product they've released looking at character development. But this new game will likely have a blank slate. New characters, new story but same universe. And although the universe is great after ME3 one could have serious questions regarding their ability to create a quality story. Which leaves the characters as the only true staple they still have left. And with Shepard and crew gone or the latter perhaps reduced to bitpart roles the pressure will be on. Failling to deliver on that front and together with the heritage of ME3 it could spell an early demise for this new game.

Modifié par Outsider edge, 19 mars 2013 - 06:21 .

[xassantex]

let me guess:
there will be a hero
and he/she will have close friends
and a whole bunch of characters making background noise.
there will be a main grand mission to resolve some kind of threat .
there will be fights, and death and love.

[sammysoso]

My guess? They aren't going to even try.

It'll be a disappointing prequel (like basically all prequels.) There will be no weight, because the ending to ME3 is such a game changer, anything that happens will seem pretty irrelevant.

[Outsider edge]

sammysoso wrote...

My guess? They aren't going to even try.

It'll be a disappointing prequel (like basically all prequels.) There will be no weight, because the ending to ME3 is such a game changer, anything that happens will seem pretty irrelevant.

Well that too.

Any kind of prequel will be dead in the water with how the current endings stand. A sequel will have to build ontop of said endings and will force them to canonize one ending stopping their whole "speculation for everyone" routine.

Bioware will likely want too circumvent the whole ME3 ending controversy. So not many options remain....maybe a reboot? That's about it. To be fair i don't think they really have a clue on how to pull this off. This whole Mass Effect: Next game feels like it's roots lay more with the  upper management of EA and their desire for more entries in financial succesful franchises then with Bioware themselves.

Modifié par Outsider edge, 19 mars 2013 - 06:45 .

[Nykara]

It honestly really boggles my mind that people who play RPG's can really lack in imagination to the extent of what seems to go on around here.

[cerberus1701]

Make a sequel that's internally consistent and they are already ahead of the game.

BW should decide that Destroy is BIOWARE'S canon (not necessarily yours) and make a sequel.

Or take a Deist view of Control: Shepalyst came, fixed the relays, then left.

Modifié par cerberus1701, 19 mars 2013 - 06:47 .

[Pcmag1]

Nykara wrote...

It honestly really boggles my mind that people who play RPG's can really lack in imagination to the extent of what seems to go on around here.

I honesltly cannot think of story placed after the ME3 that could incorporate options of everybody being green and nobody being green. 
IT/ dream comes into mind, but that was denied. So all I got is that after reaper wars there is now a big fashion trend where everyone just loves to tatoo glowing circuit board on his/her skin and wear green glowing contact lenses. 

[Bizantura]

Wondering myself? They can't canonize any of the 4 options if you don't want to pi** of the other 3.
I sure as hell won't buy if they canonize an option thats not mine, whats the point.
And if I have to use my imagination to cover every plothole Bioware leaves behind than they should pay us to play there game insted of asking money for it.

[Notsags]

HarbingerShep wrote...

Consider all 3 endings, 4 if you count refusal.. They all have 3 differences that would have to effect the way in some way.
Destroy: All reapers dead, Geth dead.
Control: Reapers alive, Geth alive.
Synthesis: Reapers alive, Geth alive.. BUT everything is green.

I know I'm looking at it irrationally but depending on your choices, if they wanted to make EVERYONE happy wouldn't they have to write the game in 3 different ways? With the exception of control/synthesis because I think you could wave off the fact that everything that's green.. I reckon the best way to go for bioware would be going post Mass effect to something before.






Sorry for the horrible point making.. Had no idea how to express it.

I think if the crucible were a reaper off switch, it would make any sequel possible, or at least it would keep them from choosing a canon ending or making ME4 a pain in the ass to develop due to how different the endings were.

[cerberus1701]

Or:

How about ALL of the endings suck so we're just going to pretend the Reapers are gone and we don't care why.

[riceadam1923]

This is an extensive science fiction universe. Time travel? Alternate realities anyone?

[dublin omega 223]

The only way they can is if the Indoctrination Theory is made canon and in Mass Effect 4 we learn that the ending of ME3 was the Reapers trying to indoctrinate Shepard.

Other there is no why that I'll be happy or even consider getting Mass Effect 4.

Modifié par dublin omega 223, 19 mars 2013 - 07:36 .

[cerberus1701]

riceadam1923 wrote...

This is an extensive science fiction universe. Time travel? Alternate realities anyone?

Works for me.

Title card: "Everett's Theory of Quantum Mechanics states that everything that can happen does happen."

Title card: "This is one such story."

Title card: Mass Effect 4

Then just...do whatever the hell you want. No one's ending is invalidated.

[GoldenPersona]

It's like everyone thinks the Milky Way galaxy is the only galaxy in the universe. The next Mass Effect could take place in any number of other galaxies. Chris is pretty much spot on. To think it has to be restricted to the events of ME1-3 and the Milky Way galaxy shows a lack of imagination.

And to say that it will strip away all RPG elements and become CoD in space...are you really that stupid? Mass Effect 3 seemed to have found the harmony (combat wise) between RPG and action elements. I don't know about PC users, but the way I play on PS3 is through extensive use of bringing up the power wheel to survey my surroundings and plan my moves. I'm being strategic at all times, planning on which power to use. In fact I feel pretty much naked when trying to play multiplayer because I can't use the power wheel.

I fail to really see how ME3 became less of an RPG than ME2, and the exaggerating gets irritating. Maybe I just play it differently =/ I've always found it to have a perfect balance.

[archangel1996]

GoldenPersona wrote...
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You missed the autodialogues and the choices that matter a LITTLE(Council, Anderson, Rachni ecc) for the whole game just to not matter at all in the ending

Modifié par archangel1996, 19 mars 2013 - 07:56 .

[Nykara]

Pcmag1 wrote...

Nykara wrote...

It honestly really boggles my mind that people who play RPG's can really lack in imagination to the extent of what seems to go on around here.

I honesltly cannot think of story placed after the ME3 that could incorporate options of everybody being green and nobody being green. 
IT/ dream comes into mind, but that was denied. So all I got is that after reaper wars there is now a big fashion trend where everyone just loves to tatoo glowing circuit board on his/her skin and wear green glowing contact lenses. 

Unless the color was actually symbolic more then it was -real-. I highly doubt that everyone is actually running around looking green, it would not mean that synthesis did not take place however.

[Hendrik.III]

It will be hard and they would surely have to think outside the box on this one. Of course, you could easily make stuff up that wasn't in the current series...

An uncharted relay sending your ship to unknown reaches of space, meeting a few other ships (aliens of course) that had the misfortune of going before you and trying to fight your way back through another galaxy controlled by another dominant species... planet hopping and dodging intercepting forces.... getting cut off... meeting unknown species that are rebelling against the dominant species.... who knows! These might even be the progeny of protheans who suffered the same fate... you could go anywhere, as long as you stay out of the known galaxy. I mean, there must have been lots of exploring that went completely wrong after humanity discovered mass effect technology.

It will not be the same kind of game, that's for sure... but I'm pretty sure they won't make a prequel, for that would really add nothing.

[Massa FX]

They'll try. They'll fail. But they'll still get my $$ regardless what others say or opinionate on BSN.

[Nykara]

I really don't think it would be that difficult to make a sequel that does not focus on anything Shepard has or hasn't done in the past. Seriously. I mean if your a merc in a merc group or something else simliar, have nothing to do with the council or the alliance or any other figure point in the universe why would you even care about anything other then what you were doing at the time? I am sure there are PLENTY of people in the ME universe who has never even laid eyes on the Citadel or its Council or alliance members. Those who travel in underground circles. Just because that is what Shep did does not mean it's what the next character would do. And yet said character would still have plenty of obstacles and things to overcome in their life and people to help if they are that way inclined etc etc.. It's really, pretty easy to think outside the box. No doubt most would have been effected by the Reaper war in some way but all they would care about is that the Reapers are no longer killing everyone. Although there are probably colonies out there that never even saw a reaper either by the time Shep stopped them.

[Shadow Storm]

HarbingerShep wrote...

Consider all 3 endings, 4 if you count refusal.. They all have 3 differences that would have to effect the way in some way.
Destroy: All reapers dead, Geth dead.
Control: Reapers alive, Geth alive.
Synthesis: Reapers alive, Geth alive.. BUT everything is green.

I know I'm looking at it irrationally but depending on your choices, if they wanted to make EVERYONE happy wouldn't they have to write the game in 3 different ways? With the exception of control/synthesis because I think you could wave off the fact that everything that's green.. I reckon the best way to go for bioware would be going post Mass effect to something before.






Sorry for the horrible point making.. Had no idea how to express it.

Control cannon is the only way i see it working then again perhaps synthesis can be counteracted in some way. As for destroy perhaps the Geth forsaw the coming destruction and posted units (or already had units) in Batarian space preserving their race. Or they are gone for good! (After all the Batarian Relay was destroyed) Just throwing ideas around.

Modifié par Raiden Storm, 19 mars 2013 - 11:31 .