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How is Bioware going to keep everyone happy in Me4?


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Kel Riever

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Modius Prime wrote...

Its been a little over a year already. If you guys are still posting here, it's a high chance that you'll buy the next Mass Effect no matter how much speculation you have conceived. Just tell Bioware what you want in the next game; it's really the only way that the game will change in your favor. Just my two cents.

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What? 

Evidence of continued forum posts equates to continued purchase of games please?

I feel like this is a blanket a fanboi likes to wrap themselves in to keep out all the bad thoughts.

No doubt the people who complain and still purchase games are among the most foolish I know.  And there aren't zero of them.  But connecting that population to the number of people who still post in the forums is hardly science, let alone based in fact.

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Kel Riever wrote...

Modius Prime wrote...

Its been a little over a year already. If you guys are still posting here, it's a high chance that you'll buy the next Mass Effect no matter how much speculation you have conceived. Just tell Bioware what you want in the next game; it's really the only way that the game will change in your favor. Just my two cents.

:whistle:


What? 

Evidence of continued forum posts equates to continued purchase of games please?

I feel like this is a blanket a fanboi likes to wrap themselves in to keep out all the bad thoughts.

No doubt the people who complain and still purchase games are among the most foolish I know.  And there aren't zero of them.  But connecting that population to the number of people who still post in the forums is hardly science, let alone based in fact.



yeah, lol. I won't buy anything EAWare related, I bought Citadel DLC cause I got $20 MS points as a gift for my birthday, I was dooped into buying Leviathan and Omega. Derp. I will not buy anything from EAWare until major policy changes and leadership changes occur- EA canned their scrub of a CEO, so it looks like they're heading in the right direction. 

So when Casey Hudson and Mac Walters are dismissed from BioWare, I'll think about it. 

Chance of that happening .0001 %

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 28 juin 2013 - 03:52 .


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NeonFlux117 wrote...
 I won't buy anything EAWare related, I bought Citadel DLC cause I got $20 MS points as a gift for my birthday, I was dooped into buying Leviathan and Omega.


How'd Bio dupe you? What did they fool you into thinking? Surely you can't have still thought IT was coming true.

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How is Bioware going to keep everyone happy ? ....well i don't know if they are, but there has to be a foundation on which to negate a backlash, and that would be to dismiss any idea that the next game could be from the back catalogue of stories. I mean, yes there are loads of historical stories on which to chose from, but there is also plenty of room to create future stories connected to historical events, or preferably do a new story in the same universe. There is no getting away from the probability that no matter which historical story you play, people will be thinking "oh you think this war is bad, just wait until the reapers show up", or "i know what happens, i've played the trilogy before and i've read the codex, you guys win".

The people who think you'd be as well making a new title instead of having a new story or no Shepard are missing the point, if you lose Mass effect you lose all the different races we've became accustomed to. We were one commander, with a team. However, they were not more important that the billions they set out to save. The people who think that Shepard is Mass Effect have a similar thought process to the Illusive Man. Oh no the humans died, let's not go on anymore as he was obviously alot more important than the billions of others he saved.

As Bioware take ideas and concepts from factual and fictional events, then the answer is simple. You can create a Mass Effect 4, but the threat doesn't have to be as huge as the reapers. It's not as if the world was at peace after Germany was deafeated in 2nd world war. There have not been wars of the same scale, or of the same magnitude, but there have been significant wars. I'm sure something involving a conflict between Leviathan and Javik could make for interesting gaming, as just one example.

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, the ending was intended to be plarizing remember?

Bioware doesn't want everyone happy

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Sheepie Crusher wrote...

, the ending was intended to be plarizing remember?

Bioware doesn't want everyone happy


Gone Horribly Right

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Players just don't want a McGuffin or a deus ex machina dropped on them, that's all.  Instead of a crucible, give Shepard a choice for how he ends the Reapers, and have that decide how your story ends.  They already had the perfect setup, with Cerberus competing against the Alliance in the race to deal with the Reapers.  Your Shepard could have fought to defeat Cerberus and ultimately destroy the Reapers, or rejoin the Illusive Man and take control of them.  Whether or not you destroyed the Collector base at the end of ME2 would have factored heavily into this as well.  So there you have it, no need for a crucible, no starbrat, no "choices" forced on you...the ending is the direct result of your actions in the story.  That is how they should handle ME4.

Modifié par Coyotebay, 28 juin 2013 - 07:14 .


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They don't. It was never they're intention. And they've proven it before.

Modifié par Fixers0, 28 juin 2013 - 06:49 .


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What I think would be awesome is if they redid the first and second mass effect games to make them coop. Two friends could choose to be either Liara, Wrex, Garrus, etc. Also, they'd need to update the graphics and game play. If they did this before they launch the new series or movie, it'd be a great intro to get everyone back into mass effect.

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Keeping everyone happy, whether it is the people at BSN, people outside of it, the people of gameFAQs, etc is impossible, so so is answering that question


edit: removed the "venting" part

Modifié par SilJeff, 29 juin 2013 - 04:53 .


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Let's keep the discussion civil and respectful, please. We can disagree with each other without resorting to pettiness and insults.

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I don't care to be happy per se. I can deal with something "I can just live with". I just want to see plausible continuity in the series. It'd be nice to know the MEU can press on (future wise. I don't care for prequels).

Modifié par StreetMagic, 29 juin 2013 - 05:43 .


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The_Other_M wrote...

Outsource the next Mass Effect trilogy to CDProjekt RED.


Nope.

CDProjekt hasn't shown the ability to present a world where I actually give two ****s about...the characters are interesting no doubt, but would I actually like to even visit there?

Nope.

! can count on one hand (and have fingers left over) on actually nice/decent people there..it's telling that Tywin Lannister would probably be the hero and Walder Frey would NOT be held in contempt by everyone else.

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If the next Mass Effect title takes place after ME3, chances are that Bioware will not canonize one ending, but take several bits and pieces from each of the endings and create a canon out of that.

Oh, and I am willing to bet my space hamster that 9 out of 10 people who have sworn to not buy the next ME will cave in and do so. 

Modifié par Imanol de Tafalla, 30 juin 2013 - 08:04 .


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Uh, well, if the next ME sounds good, I'll buy it. If it sounds lame, then I won't buy it.

Truth is, I hope it sounds good. I want to buy the next ME, but I can't make any promises. I still love BW games the bestest, but if it doesn't capture my interests then...whatchagonnado?

There's no such thing as keeping everyone happy. The things that would make me happy, however, is if they let me explore more. Let me have the feeling, at least, that I'm really shaping my own character and their role in the game world. Throw in some mysteries. New faces. New places. Uh...some humor. That kinda thing.

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Hmm, I recently watched an interview with Aaryn Flynn (I think that's his name?) And he was saying how the RPG elements of Dragon Age III would be incorporated into the next ME. If this is the case and I don't think he'd be lying, then I have a lot more optimism for the next Mass Effect.

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Black Jack and Hookers, that's how!

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Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



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 Hows about this for a yaddayaddayadda. Make the previous games irrelivent and the saves we have and all time invested futile and ill simply not buy the next one, as it will be obvious you cannot or will not expand upon the originals that have cult standing and are simply rehashing with copy paste 3 stars to the right, how thats for yada yad yad hmm cos i will be far from the only one who feels like that.

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:11 .


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I don't really care about your canon or choices. And neither should Bioware.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

I don't really care about your canon or choices. And neither should Bioware.


 The fact you dont care about my choices doesnt bother me in the slightest the fact you dont care about canon explains everything and your mentality.

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:19 .


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Morocco Mole wrote...

I don't really care about your canon or choices. And neither should Bioware.


Modifié par Imanol de Tafalla, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:34 .


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They never will make everyone happy, but it shouldn't be too difficult to avoid massive backlash over the next game.

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ShepnTali wrote...

They never will make everyone happy, but it shouldn't be too difficult to avoid massive backlash over the next game.

of course they can't.If that was the case then each ME would sell more than 100 million copies

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Here's your answer: NONE of the 'endings' actually happened. The Reapers were defeated, but as the old man says, "The details have been lost in time." Everyone was fighting for their lives, each only knew their small piece of the battle. However the Reapers were defeated, the few that knew exactly what happened decided the details were too dangerous or inconvenient to reveal them to a shattered galaxy that needed to focus on recovery.

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shingara wrote...

 The fact you dont care about my choices doesnt bother me in the slightest the fact you dont care about canon explains everything and your mentality.


It says I want to Bioware to make the best story possible without worrying about some guy I don't care about's canon.