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[KaiserShep]

Can't speak for everyone, but a sequel that's fun and brings back ME2's level of immersion at the very least would make me happy. Won't matter though if it's PS4 only, cuz I'm not getting one of those anytime soon.

[shingara]

Morocco Mole wrote...

shingara wrote...

 The fact you dont care about my choices doesnt bother me in the slightest the fact you dont care about canon explains everything and your mentality.

It says I want to Bioware to make the best story possible without worrying about some guy I don't care about's canon.

 Nah it says that you think that bioware cannot expand upon the story in a future aspect  and have to stay within the remaning story built within ME1-3 cos your scared that they cannot recreate what they had in one or 2 and just want a larger ME3 dlc that stands as a standalone game like the cerberus mini game.

  And it aint my canon or your canon, its everyones canon. No matter what we do within this time frame be it as a remnant collector, a tear away cerberus group or a member of the turian army we know exactly how it ends. And if your happy knowing exactly how the new game will end before you even start it then good for you but alot of us arnt.

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:25 .

[shingara]

Morocco Mole wrote...

It's Bioware's canon actually.

I don't even know what the rest of your post is supposed to mean.

 LOL its everyones canon specifically because it is Biowares set out canon. To break that canon destroys the previous 3 games and explains why i am not shocked that you cannot understand it my reply. The bridge is that way feel free to get back under it ----------->

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:44 .

[shingara]

There canon, come on try harder. Im sure you can if you really think about it, dont let the headaches get you down.

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Morocco Mole is unbanned. But for how long?

Updated: 4 hour(s) ago

Ow look at that, shocked not.

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:50 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Anyone familiar with star wars the old republic? I like bringing it up whenever people say that bioware won't make a canon of their own because usually fans of dragon age and mass effect are also fans of knights of the old republic as well. I'm always amazed at the sheer number of cross title fandoms there are revolving around this single company.

Regardless. Anyone who thinks bioware is above setting a canon that negates or contrast other peoples, should watch this and this respectively.

Both examples of bioware not only being willing to contradict fan made canon, but completely smash it for the sake of a good story.

[shingara]

That include introducing ewoks about oow 3000 years before they are found which isnt player lore ?

[Cainhurst Crow]

shingara wrote...

That include introducing ewoks about oow 3000 years before they are found which isnt player lore ?

It was explained enough for it to work, and everyone knows it's the same type of scenario as blizz the jawa companion. More for fun and levity than to be 100% serious.

Like blasto, or are we going to have to discuss how blasto ruins mass effect by violating lore on hanars?

[Iakus]

shingara wrote...

  And it aint my canon or your canon, its everyones canon. No matter what we do within this time frame be it as a remnant collector, a tear away cerberus group or a member of the turian army we know exactly how it ends. And if your happy knowing exactly how the new game will end before you even start it then good for you but alot of us arnt.

Problem is some people choose IT as their canon.

Others make theirs MEHEM

Or Marauder Shields.

or various other fanfixes.

How can Bioware keep them happy?

DOn't get me wrong,. a prequel or sidequel doesn't really appeal to me, but I am wholly uninterested in a sequel where MEHEM is impossible.

[shingara]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

shingara wrote...

That include introducing ewoks about oow 3000 years before they are found which isnt player lore ?

It was explained enough for it to work, and everyone knows it's the same type of scenario as blizz the jawa companion. More for fun and levity than to be 100% serious.

Like blasto, or are we going to have to discuss how blasto ruins mass effect by violating lore on hanars?

 The jawa and stuff are cool, there a known quanitity, blasto is a comidy highlight, the ewoks are just money grabbing from kiddys.

Morocco Mole wrote...

Well, LucasArts has to approve it. So if they want it to be like that, it can be.

No they dont, EA now have all rights. Please keep up.

[shingara]

iakus wrote...

shingara wrote...

  And it aint my canon or your canon, its everyones canon. No matter what we do within this time frame be it as a remnant collector, a tear away cerberus group or a member of the turian army we know exactly how it ends. And if your happy knowing exactly how the new game will end before you even start it then good for you but alot of us arnt.

Problem is some people choose IT as their canon.

Others make theirs MEHEM

Or Marauder Shields.

or various other fanfixes.

How can Bioware keep them happy?

DOn't get me wrong,. a prequel or sidequel doesn't really appeal to me, but I am wholly uninterested in a sequel where MEHEM is impossible.

 I think your confusing player created lore which is what we do within the varients of our saves and the games canon which is the backbone of set down rules and enviroments of specific events that have happened. IE like is set out within the codex like protheans got roflestomped 50000 years ago so set points and actions within time.


  Its like in essence if we go back in a prequel everything we do will adhere or will if they dont destroy there own cannon follow what is within the codex, if they do anything in the ME1-3 timeframe the same set points will still be in effect, if the saves translate over to something like that the actions in the trilogy will effect your game but point A to B will not be able to devaite or alternate set points of actions set out within the trilogy.

 This is why most people want a sequel ahead as that canon is neither set nor enshrined in either player derived lore or the canon set out through the spine of the game so point A to point B is neither set nor any actions taken within the 1st game forced to a set outcome we already understand to be happening in a future point as that future has not been created, explore or embeleshed.

Modifié par shingara, 23 juillet 2013 - 12:28 .

[MageTarot]

There's really no way to please everyone and to be honest, I don't think the writers of the next Mass Effect are even going to try.

Funny thing is I can't shake the sinister feeling that's what happened the last go-around...but that's another topic entirely.

[Iakus]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Those are fanfiction. Bioware is never going to acknowledge fanfiction. So if that is your "headcanon" you are opening yourself to massive disappointment. Because it is never going to be canon.

Not acknowledgement, but not contradict it.  

And that's the problem:  This is how a lot of people find ME3's outcomes bearable.  If a sequel means being forced to go back to... that...then yeah, a lot of people will be disappointed.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

iakus wrote...

shingara wrote...

  And it aint my canon or your canon, its everyones canon. No matter what we do within this time frame be it as a remnant collector, a tear away cerberus group or a member of the turian army we know exactly how it ends. And if your happy knowing exactly how the new game will end before you even start it then good for you but alot of us arnt.

Problem is some people choose IT as their canon.

Others make theirs MEHEM

Or Marauder Shields.

or various other fanfixes.

How can Bioware keep them happy?

DOn't get me wrong,. a prequel or sidequel doesn't really appeal to me, but I am wholly uninterested in a sequel where MEHEM is impossible.

"how can BioWare keep them happy"..easy.By making a good game.I don't think anyone would care about their little "headcanon" then (whatever that's supposed to mean)

A real gamer doesn't ignore a good game just coz "i hate EaWare" lmao

and MEHEM doesn't exist

[Iakus]

Morocco Mole wrote...

And? You can't please everyone. So if a bunch of people with their heads in the sand about the endings get pissed because Bioware violated their fanfiction. It's their fault.

Kinda funny how you got the point (Bioware's gonna p*ss people off if they only acknowledge the standard endings)  And yet you're able to tell it in such an arrogant condescending, and above all insulting fashion.

Bravo, sir, you have a rare talent.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Why does bioware need to care about fan endings again? I mean, does any other franchise have to abide by the accepted non-official or even authorized material of someone who hadn't had any connection to the development of the game outside of final consumer sale?

I have to take morocco mole's side on this, it's ridiculous to insist bioware not make material that would violate a work they didn't make and isn't even in the mass effect canon for the next mass effect game, simply because a few fans have formed an attachment to the idea.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 23 juillet 2013 - 12:49 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bioware call IT a 'valid interpretation' of the ending?

Yes. It's as valid as the "shepard dies at the end of ME2" ending.

[Zekka]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

iakus wrote...

shingara wrote...

  And it aint my canon or your canon, its everyones canon. No matter what we do within this time frame be it as a remnant collector, a tear away cerberus group or a member of the turian army we know exactly how it ends. And if your happy knowing exactly how the new game will end before you even start it then good for you but alot of us arnt.

Problem is some people choose IT as their canon.

Others make theirs MEHEM

Or Marauder Shields.

or various other fanfixes.

How can Bioware keep them happy?

DOn't get me wrong,. a prequel or sidequel doesn't really appeal to me, but I am wholly uninterested in a sequel where MEHEM is impossible.

"how can BioWare keep them happy"..easy.By making a good game.I don't think anyone would care about their little "headcanon" then (whatever that's supposed to mean)

A real gamer doesn't ignore a good game just coz "i hate EaWare" lmao

and MEHEM doesn't exist

You would be suprised by how many people hate EA & Bioware. Some people refuse to even buy an EA game.

Modifié par leslie2233, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:22 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

I'd rather judge a game based on it's gameplay, story, characters, mood/tone, and execution, than just on which faceless development company made it.

Just saying.