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[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Tonymac wrote...

They also missed out on some crapbomb game endings, like ME3.  I was promissed the sky.....  but what I got after pre-ordering was a bowl of used chum and artistic integrity.

I'll take hundreds of hours of quality entertainment with a side of 15 minutes of disappointment. Mass Effect 3 is one of the best games I've played...with the worst ending I've seen. That's a worthy trade-off in my book.

Of course if people don't play EA games because of their invasive EULA on PC or something then I can dig that.

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

[Xamufam]

by not rewriting it at the last minute

[Xamufam]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Tonymac wrote...

They also missed out on some crapbomb game endings, like ME3.  I was promissed the sky.....  but what I got after pre-ordering was a bowl of used chum and artistic integrity.

I'll take hundreds of hours of quality entertainment with a side of 15 minutes of disappointment. Mass Effect 3 is one of the best games I've played...with the worst ending I've seen. That's a worthy trade-off in my book.

Of course if people don't play EA games because of their invasive EULA on PC or something then I can dig that.

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

ac3 & rage has bad endings me3 has a broken ending

[CronoDragoon]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

[AlanC9]

Troxa wrote...

by not rewriting it at the last minute

The leaked script wasn't much better.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

CronoDragoon wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

AC3's ending is probably worse than ME3's, it just lacks the hype/reputation to make the ending seem so bad compared to the rest of the modern day story. It's funny because the ending commits virtually all the same narrative mistakes.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:48 .

[Iakus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

AC3's ending is probably worse than ME3's, it just lacks the hype/reputation to make the ending seem so bad compared to the rest of the modern day story. It's funny because the ending commits virtually all the same narrative mistakes.

Did teh Assasson's Creed series at any point try to assure you that you as the player had any agency over what happens?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

CronoDragoon wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

Borderlands?Over 2 years later and i'm still trying to find something awful about the ME3 ending.I can;t

[BaladasDemnevanni]

iakus wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

AC3's ending is probably worse than ME3's, it just lacks the hype/reputation to make the ending seem so bad compared to the rest of the modern day story. It's funny because the ending commits virtually all the same narrative mistakes.

Did teh Assasson's Creed series at any point try to assure you that you as the player had any agency over what happens?

Nope, but I was referring strictly from a narrative perspective: introduction of last minute super weapon to save the day, death of protagonist (but here, you don't even have a halfway decent good-bye with companions), main character committing atrocities, spending the entire game attempting to open a door instead of solving the main conflict, and the sudden introduction of a new villain in the same exact instant that the previous world-destroying conflict ends.

Apologies, I should have made that more clear.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:52 .

[Iakus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Nope, but I was referring strictly from a narrative perspective: introduction of last minute super weapon to save the day, death of protagonist (but here, you don't even have a halfway decent good-bye with companions), main character committing atrocities, spending the entire game attempting to open a door instead of solving the main conflict, and the sudden introduction of a new villain in the same exact instant that the previous world-destroying conflict ends.

Apologies, I should have made that more clear.

Wrll, good thing I got bored with AC2 and quit while I was ahead then.

Edit;  But think of how worse it would have been if you could import saves with allsort of decisions made that you were told over five years could affect the story, only to still have that ending no matter what.

Oh, wait, you don't have to imagnie it 

Modifié par iakus, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:54 .

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

AC3's ending is probably worse than ME3's, it just lacks the hype/reputation to make the ending seem so bad compared to the rest of the modern day story. It's funny because the ending commits virtually all the same narrative mistakes.

Assassin's Creed destroys Mass Effect in sales.AC3 only has probably sold more than all ME games COMBINED

i didn't see any petition for a new ending for AC3

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:58 .

[Cassandra Saturn]

i buyed AC3 only for multiplayer..

[ShepnTali]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

Borderlands?Over 2 years later and i'm still trying to find something awful about the ME3 ending.I can;t

Considering you just want to shoot stuff, it's not surprising.

*And it hasn't even been a year and a half since release.* 

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

ShepnTali wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3 has the worst endings you've ever seen?You probably haven't played that many games if you think that.

PLAY AC3 or RAGE and then we'll talk

I've played quite a bit of games, including many JRPGs with crappy endings that you've probably never heard of. But I have not played AC3 or RAGE yet, you are correct.

Borderlands?Over 2 years later and i'm still trying to find something awful about the ME3 ending.I can;t

Considering you just want to shoot stuff, it's not surprising.

*And it hasn't even been a year and a half since release.* 

that's inaccurate.I want to have FUN,not just "shoot stuff".

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Well, I don't know...

In my personal opinion, I think that it's impossible to keep EVERYONE happy. There will always be one or another group of people that hate the game (No disrespect, I'm just mentioning them and I don't have anything against it)...

But, if it were in an hypothetical world they needed to do 3 (not counting Refusal) different stories (for a sequel) that follow each one of the choices from the first Mass Effect to the endings.

But if it were in a prequel, well... don't know how's that going to come out...



PS: Can anyone provide the link saying that the next Mass Effect will be suitable for new players, that they don't need to play the first ones to know what happened, etc, etc, please??

Thanks in advance

[Xamufam]

AlanC9 wrote...

Troxa wrote...

by not rewriting it at the last minute

The leaked script wasn't much better.

It seems the rewrites began after march 2011 the prothan was removed from the game wich had a domino effect on cat 2 mision called the fall of thessia to be followed by cat 3 a citadel mission were cerberus was taking over the space station. thessia would have happened sooner

Cat-Catalyst missions
Cat 1 Eden prime
Cat 2 Fall of thessia
Cat 3 Cerberus taking over the citadel

edit on thessia part of the mission was to involve illusive man to kidnapping the prothean & extracting information from him. the prothean got the information on thessia (leaked script+thefinalhourofme3)

It also seems in the leaked script that legion was to come with the other quarian admirals not being stuck on the ship
Liara could die on thessia virmire like thing
They did cut almost all of the priority earth misssion there where 4 ways of getting to the beam,
4 ways to get down to earth based on ems

Shepard and Anderson reach the end of the tunnel in to a
larger central chamber. They realize this is essentially a rendering
facility. Human goo pours from their tunnel, and dozens (hundreds?) like
it, into a vast holding tank under the grated floor.

As they enter the control room they can see the
controls for the Citadel Arms, but before they can reach them both
Shepard and Anderson begin to feel the effects similiar to those Shepard
felt at MIRANDA'S MISSION. Before they can realize what's happening,
Anderson and Shepard find themselves with their guns drawn and aimed at
one another.
It seems shepard was to be taken over on miranda's mission

if you remove the music from the dreams it actually gets creepy lot of reaper noise, the whispers gets worse when you get near the boy

march 2011 they realised that they needed more time they got 3 months more but they had to remove a lot of things from the story
Hope EA & the investors has learned they can't have a short development cycle for a storydriven rpg

Modifié par Troxa, 23 juillet 2013 - 09:46 .

[Xamufam]

Morocco Mole wrote...

EA had nothing to do with the ending so you can stop blaming them for that.

by giving the a short development cycle they had something to do with it

whatculture.com/gaming/assassins-creed-3-and-disappointing-video-game-endings.php

[Xamufam]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Troxa wrote...
by giving the a short development cycle they had something to do with it

whatculture.com/gaming/assassins-creed-3-and-disappointing-video-game-endings.php

Yeah, but EA didn't tell Casey and Mac to lock the writers out of the ending and write their own now did they?

no, after the leak no one on the writing team knew how to end the story (shepard becoming one with the reaper was the ending instead of synthesis)

I think this was the reapers reason in the beginning

They fear that they will be rivaled by
something more powerful than they are (that this cycle will create AI
that can topple the reapers). This implies they are merely fearful for
their own survival and that is why they purge all life but they convince
themselves they are protecting us.

read this \\/

Modifié par Troxa, 23 juillet 2013 - 09:52 .

[Iakus]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Please do not mock IntelligentME3Fanboy

Indeed.

No matter how much he tries to bait you.

[Alex JGr]

An article that I read today made me think about what I'd probably like in an ME 4, but at the same time take into consideration the already existing story of the trilogy.
How about a prequel in character dialogues and cinematic scenes and a sequel as a main story? James Vega had an intriguing story when talking about the mission against the collectors. I would have liked to hear more about that. He's also an N7 recruit, fact that could make him a fair choice for main character in a sequel, with a long story behind him, before Shepard and with Shepard. What has Ashley/ Kaidan been doing during the events of Mass Effect 2 ? Were there no successful or relevant espionage missions between Cerberus and the Alliance? The illusive man is a guy who knew a lot of things, but mentioned only what was necessary. What more did he know? Maybe some characters who were close to him can be "invented". Some who can tell a few things about Cerberus and the people behind it.
About the ending of ME3: well, probably everybody may be happy with the choice they made at the end in ME3 and that may stay in ME3, but for making a sequel story easier for ME4 the indoctrination theory can be something worth taking into consideration. Maybe not the whole of it, but still it's a mistake that at this point may prove useful in case the story isn't already too far developed and if the team didn't yet come up with a better solution. Again this just in the case in which the story is going to relate to the events of the trilogy.

Modifié par Alex JGr, 23 juillet 2013 - 10:24 .

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Edit: Nevermind.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 23 juillet 2013 - 10:41 .