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[GiarcYekrub]

The catalyst could be lying about the effects of destroy, if Shep can survive, so can some of the Reapers

[LucasShark]

Simple answer: they can't.

ME4 was never supposed to exist, and now only will to milk what money is left from the franchise. If they did actually care about making people "happy", then their best bet would be to retcon the entire mess of ME3's ending.

[Grubas]

Even if the product turns out to be good, bad PR always leaves a bad taste.

"Because the Rachnipresence didn't play a big part in the game, and in no way did it affect the endgame, especially not during the final battle with the Reapers."

[crimzontearz]

how you ask? Simple, they will pull a deus ex invisible wars, mark my word

[LucasShark]

crimzontearz wrote...

how you ask? Simple, they will pull a deus ex invisible wars, mark my word

Oh good: and look how well THAT worked out...

[crimzontearz]

LucasShark wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

how you ask? Simple, they will pull a deus ex invisible wars, mark my word

Oh good: and look how well THAT worked out...

I never said they would succeed...

[spirosz]

They best try to not please everyone and focus on creating something they will love to pour their heart out, regardless of the feedback.

[GreyLycanTrope]

spirosz wrote...

They best try to not please everyone and focus on creating something they will love to pour their heart out, regardless of the feedback.

Isn't that what happened last time?

[spirosz]

Greylycantrope wrote...

spirosz wrote...

They best try to not please everyone and focus on creating something they will love to pour their heart out, regardless of the feedback.

Isn't that what happened last time?

Well in terms of not trying to please everyone?  No, they've been trying to please everyone in every aspect since ME2, multiple romances, Diana Allers, MP, etc. 

In terms of pouring their hearts out (I can only really believe a few did). 

Modifié par spirosz, 21 janvier 2013 - 02:22 .

[crimzontearz]

spirosz wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

spirosz wrote...

They best try to not please everyone and focus on creating something they will love to pour their heart out, regardless of the feedback.

Isn't that what happened last time?

Well in terms of not trying to please everyone?  No, they've been trying to please everyone in every aspect since ME2, multiple romances, Diana Allers, MP, etc. 

In terms of pouring their hearts out (I can only really believe a few did). 

apparently only 2 poured their hearts out over the ending....

[Sir George Parr]

In answer to the question they won't its an impossible challenge. ME3 ending on an emotional high instead of making you want to ring the samaritans afterwards would have helped provide a way forward. A retcon of the ending mess? our just scrap plans for ME4 and develop a new IP?.

Modifié par XM-417, 21 janvier 2013 - 03:31 .

[GiarcYekrub]

The original endings were obviously designed to be very similar so ME4 could continue, the EC which they were forced to do by some of more the rabid parts of the fanbase seems on the surface to make it a harder task to take choices into account, but not impossible.

I would:
1.Have 70+ leap in time
2.Set it in a remote part of the galaxy cut off due to relay network damage
3.Have an AI crew mate that isn't available if Destroy was chosen, personality different if Synthsis/Control were different (This wouldn't be unlike the mechanism for Ash/Kaiden or Tali/Garrus)
4.Maybe some sort of special biotic ability is unlocked if synthsis was chosen
5.Reapers have were either not all destroyed by the destroy option(if Shep survives then they can too) or the Reapers have left, maybe to some sort of Reaper homeworld in Dark space whatever they decide it makes the Reapers present or missing in all scenarios

[Enhanced]

Keeping everyone happy is impossible.

[dreamgazer]

(laughs)

Unless they ditch the Milky Way and take the universe to another galaxy, or canonize an ending, they won't.

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

(laughs)

Unless they ditch the Milky Way and take the universe to another galaxy, or canonize an ending, they won't.

or pull a deus ex and move forward 500 years

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

(laughs)

Unless they ditch the Milky Way and take the universe to another galaxy, or canonize an ending, they won't.

or pull a deus ex and move forward 500 years

Well, they'd need to funnel the universe into one "inevitable" ending ...

[clarkusdarkus]

LTKerr wrote...

High EMS Destroy + some Geth somehow survived

clarkusdarkus wrote...

No more shepard will mean ME4 is a standalone game, We'll get a default type protagonist like marcus fenix, Will be advertised as TPS, Campaign will last 8 hours, Will have Co-op and will have the Horde mode 2.0 Mp.

SP rpg fans like myself will not be the target audience and if it's Next Gen then im sure they'll be other IP's i'll be into anyway, So ME will be like Final Fantasy to me, A game with fond memories but a game i'll pass on.

Luckily there're other companies such as CDProjekt or Bethesda ,though the latter is dangerously close to start making games for non-RPG gamers.

Cyberpunk 2077 sounds awesome on paper as ME is really the only Sci-fi opera we have available, Like i say tho, New consoles = New IP, which there is always new hits like ME, ME4 is now like other franchise's( hate many of them)..they will sell on name alone, Aslong as bethesda and other companys make SP rpg's i'll follow them.

[LucasShark]

GiarcYekrub wrote...

The original endings were obviously designed to be very similar so ME4 could continue, the EC which they were forced to do by some of more the rabid parts of the fanbase seems on the surface to make it a harder task to take choices into account, but not impossible.

Only... they weren't?

Cosmetically and functionally similar are entirely different things.  The original endings were the former, not the latter.

[ME859]

Reboot wold be the best way to go as it would be a blank canvas with the same tools. Either way though they likely already have the basic story planned out hence why they were so adament about defending the endings

[LucasShark]

ME859 wrote...

Reboot wold be the best way to go as it would be a blank canvas with the same tools. Either way though they likely already have the basic story planned out hence why they were so adament about defending the endings

That's blatantly not the case: since no installment in this series has had its successor planned out in advance.  Hence why ME3 is so divorced from ME1, there never was a plan, or if there was: it was abbandoned.

[N7-RedFox]

Unless the final DLC gives what they've all been waiting for, i see ME4 being a complete flop due to lack of trust between gamers and Bioware.

[Ageless Face]

It all depends on how big they're going to make the changes. They could make the Geth as NPC in the backround, only one or two of them giving you a side quest so it won't affect the plot. And show a Reaper or two while moving in space. Again, make few quests so it'll feel as if your choice of Synthesis/control was acknowlaged. And show neither in destroy, and also make side quests uniqe only to this. And of course in Synthesis, add green texture to everything- I'm not a game developer, but I doubt it's that hard. And even if it is, BioWare can say something like this:

"The Synthesis evolution came with a backfire- everyone involved had turned green. Luckily, scientists all over the galaxy had managed to overcome this, and change back into the original color."

Really simple, and make sense. After all, nobody likes being green...

Anyway, my point is, while it might be hard, it's definitely not impossible. 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 21 janvier 2013 - 03:20 .

[HarbingerShep]

Yes you all have wonderful points but everyone's only really focusing on how I said everything would be green.. Sorry but what about the reapers again? Unless they all just moved themself back into darkspace (Which regarding the Synthesis and Control cinematics - They didn't.) And then if you also consider the fact that alot of people had/have been using destroy because of the indoctrination theory, but then also you look at the fact that Synthesis and Control are basically the same thing just with a colour difference. OH and the fact that the quarians dont need their masks in Synthesis.. And the geth are destroyed in destroy.. AND depending on your ems the mass relays can explode to a state that would take hundreds of years to rebuild.

Modifié par HarbingerShep, 21 janvier 2013 - 03:25 .

[Ageless Face]

HarbingerShep wrote...

Yes you all have wonderful points but everyone's only really focusing on how I said everything would be green.. Sorry but what about the reapers again? Unless they all just moved themself back into darkspace (Which regarding the Synthesis and Control cinematics - They didn't.) And then if you also consider the fact that alot of people had/have been using destroy because of the indoctrination theory, but then also you look at the fact that Synthesis and Control are basically the same thing just with a colour difference. OH and the fact that the quarians dont need their masks in Synthesis.. And the geth are destroyed in destroy.. AND depending on your ems the mass relays can explode to a state that would take hundreds of years to rebuild.

As I answered in my post, Reapers can still exist in Synthesis/control, only have little/nothing to do with the plot itself. That's what side quests are for. Same thing with the Geth.

Synthesis and control are not the same at all, as one has AIShep to control the Reapers, and the other ending has vast technology advancement. You can do a lot with either- conversing with AIShep, Adding passive/active powers in Synthesis or upgrades to your ship, etc. 

As for the quarians, most put their masks even on their ships- it's their culture. I think even Tali said they'll probably still wear the suits after the Geth will help them; Of course, there can also be the outcome of all the Quarians taking their suits off anyway, with the Geth's help/ finding the answer themselves. Honestly, I think the bigger question about the Quarians are even alive or dead. This one has little to do with the ending choices.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 21 janvier 2013 - 03:41 .