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How is Bioware going to keep everyone happy in Me4?


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TipsLeFedora wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Bewb Physics

Indeed. It works for all things Dead or Alive.


Kinect Bewb Squeeze


"XBOX: Jiggle bewbies".


This should have been a feature but nope bioware just likes to dumb down their games. <-- Standard BSN comment.


No, no, no ... it would enhance realism and maturity. 

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dreamgazer wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Bewb Physics

Indeed. It works for all things Dead or Alive.


Kinect Bewb Squeeze


"XBOX: Jiggle bewbies".


Finally something worthy of being called next gen!

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General Slotts wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

TipsLeFedora wrote...

Bewb Physics

Indeed. It works for all things Dead or Alive.


Kinect Bewb Squeeze


"XBOX: Jiggle bewbies".


Finally something worthy of being called next gen!


Still in 720p though.

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Screw keeping everyone happy, just make a fun game to play.

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dreamgazer wrote...

I still like MEWhatever.


And then you can abbreviate it to MEW, which is adorable and kinda like COD:MW so it'd bunch the undergarments of the fanbase. 

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It's going to bunch the undergarments of the fan base anyway no matter what they do, so the door is wide open. Reapers are dead. I'm happy with that.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Screw keeping everyone happy, just make a fun game to play.


Couldnt agree more. Do what is potrays the game and the story you want to say the best not the way it will appeal to everyone.  

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You're assuming the next ME has to be post endings, which is a possibility. Let's just not worry about that, let's wait for the announcement and then speculate when we have something more than "we are working on another game set in the same universe" As far as I know there are 6 games based on the ME universe.

The big trilogy, two for ipod/ipad (Universe and Infiltrator) and the last one is tabletop ME Risk.

The point of bringing them up is that apart from being set in the same universe we don't know anything else about it. It could be the fall of the Prothean Empire, Admiral Hackett's story in the First Contact War, the life of Aria, a stealth based game based on being an asari commando, be a starfighter pilot, a turian admiral in the krogan war, a thousand years after ME3 and so on.

We can bring ideas, discuss them, but just fixating in one (post ending) as if it was the only option is rather pointless.

Also rereadying I made a mistake. We know another thing, the protagonist is not going to be Shepard.

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Silcron, you realize every option you mentioned is going to get the BSN fanbase's undergarments in a bunch.

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pretty much yeah

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I'd honestly be very impressed if they could keep more than half the people who play the next game satisfied.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Silcron, you realize every option you mentioned is going to get the BSN fanbase's undergarments in a bunch.


This has been discussed before, some things like Hacket (or Anderson there sometimes), Aria I've heard from others. And I didn't mention the Archangel adventures, that was a popular one some months ago. What was Garrus doing between ME1 and ME2. Darth Brotarian had an idea too, and me, but I haven't mentioned either.

So I wouldn't say it's going to, because they already did.

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Silcron wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Silcron, you realize every option you mentioned is going to get the BSN fanbase's undergarments in a bunch.


This has been discussed before, some things like Hacket (or Anderson there sometimes), Aria I've heard from others. And I didn't mention the Archangel adventures, that was a popular one some months ago. What was Garrus doing between ME1 and ME2. Darth Brotarian had an idea too, and me, but I haven't mentioned either.

So I wouldn't say it's going to, because they already did.


Playing the role of Hackett or Garrus, already well defined characters, engaging in a minor inter-species skirmish or fighting crime on a space station for a bit, knowing exactly how things will end?

I don't know but it certainly doesn't seem like material for a proper Bioware title, more like a fanmade spin-off. 

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As it is, they'll probably not keep me happy. I don't care to get invested in a whole new cast, and then watch them diminish these characters when Bioware decides who's the pseudo "best buddy" and pseudo "waifu" and their biggest fans drown out any other element of the game universe.

I'll read the Foundation comics, get to see for one last time the variety of great characters Bioware abandoned, and probably be done with it.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 21 novembre 2013 - 08:49 .


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Why does everyone assume so many things that are either not true, rumors to be proven or just others being ignorant and ignoring facts that are left.

Well since that is what you guys are doing now:bandit:, I will explain what is either fact or extremely likely since most of that idea has been proven first then what is left to interpret and then what I'd like to interpret. This is from some reasearch and just basic though by that research and even playing all three games. If you need sources I may be able to provide many but things like ths sumary of a quote "Shepard will not be involved" are not poven and infact are entire rumaors that I will only beileve on video so don't say so a dev said it unless you see that dev saying it:

Fact or likely truth:
1. Shepard is told to have more stories by the Stargazer so there is a chance he has other involvement

2. The destroy ending has Shepard still alive if you chose it with high EMS so he can appear

3. The chance of the next ME to be a sequel as there have been facts (There are facts that it could be after the ME3 ending but there isn't much evidence other than the devs stating that Shepard might show up but there is barley anything to confirm so don't quote me on this or even say "You are lying" because there isn't much evidence on it)

4. The Mass Relays are fixed withing five years of the ME3 ending as proven by Zaeed is able to leave Earth (because at the end of ME3 he is at Earth) and go to a Planet outside the Sol System and lay with his rifle (remember he was probably old enough to die from natural causes by ME3 so it can not be far ahead in the future in the end cut-scenes)

5. Geth and Reapers are not guaranteed dead in the ME3 destroy ending or Reapers under Shepard's control in that ending but in synthesis, the Reapers wouldn't attack them anyway so don't assume that Reapers are or aren't going to try another attack

6. There is evidence that the new Character (which is almost proven to be an entirely new Character) will be set only a very short time after ME3 (This is only highly likely and not proven either)

What is left to interpret:

1. Shepard may be referenced no matter what but it could take a new story in a new universe/galaxy thus making the games pointless and no Shepard according to it (not confirmed at all and is likely untrue but need to state it)

2. The length of Quarians lives naturally or in there suits and Turian life expectancy has not been ever confirmed (not very important but something I felt needed to state)

3. The effects of the Genophage cure/false cure

4. The Stargazer (though, the Stargazer would only appear thousands or hundreds of thousands of years after ME3 so don't know there) effect on everything or the planet/planets shown at that moment

5. The effect of the dead/controlled/now harmless Reapers (if dead, organics could or might become more advanced/if controlled, Shepard is unknown what he makes the Reapers do/if now harmless(synthesis), the Reapers seem to only help rebuild and nothing else)

6. Concept art seems to include Turians and Humans so they could and are likely before the Stargazer

7. The next type of war that exist if one does happen is unknown

8. What happen to everyone in Shepard's squad and all his Friends/Family( if he had any left)

9. The new enemy to face and the new character's purpose

What I'd like:

1. For it to be like 3 years after ME3

2. For Shepard to return as a small character and be involved in minor plots at least(with best(highest EMS) destroy ending) or as a referenced character very often.

3. For Shepard's Friends to make a return and speak about him and even get involved in some minor plot and even talk about how Shepard acted on the Normandy

4. Many major issues that arise

5. Old species of the series still have lots of issues to worry about

6. Civil wars similar to Halo (before first contact in Halo) where people of colonies fight each other and the Alliance(Human) or the Hierarchy(Turian) or even the Citadel as the colonies have proven to "not like alliance types" so what stops other colonies from hating others and revolting

7. Someone learns of a new threat and your character must stop it (possibly not AI related this time since that is a little annoying to me at least) as well at the threat should be more organic related like maybe a virus like the flood or just millions of conflicts to settle

8. My choices need to matter to me so anyway that would work would be great

9. The ability of RTS elements but not really something big and doesn't matter much to me

10. A new alien instead could be trying to invade the galaxy and destroy the Citadel and its council instead of my previous ideas maybe.

I have too many things to want so I won't name anymore and can't think of some to guess right now but most is either fact, unknown, or wanted by me at least so don't just quote me on this but I could find evidence behind the first section.

Modifié par Spartan3222, 23 novembre 2013 - 08:40 .


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Bioware can't keep anyone happy in ME 4
They lost focus on what made the Mass Effect Trilogy so great
- Commander Shepard
- The Normandy
- The Characters
- The Choices
- The Mass Effect Universe itself
All of this gone because Bioware Wants a 'new fresh universe'
And they even consider playing as one of the existing characters which means that gamers can't choose their character's class like Adept, Sentinel

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What, haven't they been clear enough on this already?

I thought their position was something like, "Stop stop STOP ASSUMING, there are NO guarantees. Don't EVEN assume the game will use a graphics engine we could run it on leprechaun magic if we wanted DID YOU THINK OF THAT. What will be canon? Canon is a CAGE for your SOUL. Perhaps there will BE no canon. Perhaps when you take the disc out of the case it will fall UP instead of DOWN. Perhaps the game will operate in a transdimensional wormhole in which time is not linear! You will be experiencing the events both before and after Shepard's saga at the same time. Perhaps it will be called ME4, perhaps it will be called Breakfast At Tiffany's 2! YOU DON'T KNOW. STOP ASKING US HOW WE WILL MAKE IT FIT WITH THE SH*TSTORM WE'RE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY."

Modifié par Nightwriter, 24 novembre 2013 - 06:51 .


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Nightwriter wrote...

What, haven't they been clear enough on this already?

I thought their position was something like, "Stop stop STOP ASSUMING, there are NO guarantees. Don't EVEN assume the game will use a graphics engine we could run it on leprechaun magic if we wanted DID YOU THINK OF THAT. What will be canon? Canon is a CAGE for your SOUL. Perhaps there will BE no canon. Perhaps when you take the disc out of the case it will fall UP instead of DOWN. Perhaps the game will operate in a transdimensional wormhole in which time is not linear! You will be experiencing the events both before and after Shepard's saga at the same time. Perhaps it will be called ME4, perhaps it will be called Breakfast At Tiffany's 2! YOU DON'T KNOW. STOP ASKING US HOW WE WILL MAKE IT FIT WITH THE SH*TSTORM WE'RE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY."


Win.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

What, haven't they been clear enough on this already?

I thought their position was something like, "Stop stop STOP ASSUMING, there are NO guarantees. Don't EVEN assume the game will use a graphics engine we could run it on leprechaun magic if we wanted DID YOU THINK OF THAT. What will be canon? Canon is a CAGE for your SOUL. Perhaps there will BE no canon. Perhaps when you take the disc out of the case it will fall UP instead of DOWN. Perhaps the game will operate in a transdimensional wormhole in which time is not linear! You will be experiencing the events both before and after Shepard's saga at the same time. Perhaps it will be called ME4, perhaps it will be called Breakfast At Tiffany's 2! YOU DON'T KNOW. STOP ASKING US HOW WE WILL MAKE IT FIT WITH THE SH*TSTORM WE'RE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY."


Win.


I dunno... maybe we should be more careful what we wish for...


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they can't. they could try and make the majority of people happy though.

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tickle267 wrote...

they can't. they could try and make the majority of people happy though.


yeah, those asari will dance with anyone...


(rofl)

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Wayning_Star wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

What, haven't they been clear enough on this already?

I thought their position was something like, "Stop stop STOP ASSUMING, there are NO guarantees. Don't EVEN assume the game will use a graphics engine we could run it on leprechaun magic if we wanted DID YOU THINK OF THAT. What will be canon? Canon is a CAGE for your SOUL. Perhaps there will BE no canon. Perhaps when you take the disc out of the case it will fall UP instead of DOWN. Perhaps the game will operate in a transdimensional wormhole in which time is not linear! You will be experiencing the events both before and after Shepard's saga at the same time. Perhaps it will be called ME4, perhaps it will be called Breakfast At Tiffany's 2! YOU DON'T KNOW. STOP ASKING US HOW WE WILL MAKE IT FIT WITH THE SH*TSTORM WE'RE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY."


Win.


I dunno... maybe we should be more careful what we wish for...


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yeah, it's a troll free call...lol

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I'll be happy if they bring Dr. Webber back. I'll even preorder. Total BA.

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Why the hell does everyone assume the Shepard is not even mentioned in the next ME when that must happen or it isn't an ME. Just because they say he will not be featured doesn't mean he can't be mentioned or even show up in the best ME3 destroy ending (to me at least) and also it is more likely to be sequel (not 100% guaranteed but the twitter responses seem to push for it unknown what time but I hope for within 10 years of ME3 and Shepard showing up if you can(should) be able to import a save from ME3 and there are many ways to do this so Shepard can live in the highest EMS destroy ending and the feel of your choices mattering)

Modifié par Spartan3222, 26 novembre 2013 - 04:54 .