yes, everything has been discussed. Sequels, Alternate Universe/Alt Timeline, prequels and 'side-quels'. But shhhh those last 2 are like bad words around these parts. Some don't comprehend that there's still plenty of stories to tell in the current MEU timeline. Humans were a part of the galactic community for over 30 years before the events of ME1.Fred0071 wrote...
Has anyone thought it might NOT be a sequel? And instead be a prequel or at the same time as another Mass Effect game? It might be set in a different galaxy altogether, though that isn't very likely.
I want to see more of the Quarian/Geth war. Or the First Contact War.
How is Bioware going to keep everyone happy in Me4?
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#951
Posté 01 février 2014 - 05:27
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#952
Posté 01 février 2014 - 05:34
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Fred0071 wrote...
liggy002 wrote...
Harorrd wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
"... and then Shepard woke up in bed and it had all been a dream....."
Ok, there is NO way we would do that becuase it is among the cheesiest McGuffin around, but it is an example of what can be done. I can't say the more "real" possibilities because I may accidentally mention what may really happen. I'm just saying that people who think it MUST be X or XY are really limiting their vision.
Thats not cheep, it bloody brilliant. You save the failure of ME3 and get to rebot the franchise from a fresh clean sheet of paper.
haha, that would be strange but if it meant a better ME trilogy, I'd be game for it.
What happened from ME1 onwards could be what Shepard saw in the Prothean beacon which showed him what COULD be done in the war against the Reapers.
My own idea:
Codex Entry: Commander Shepard "The First Human Spectre" is a fictional character and the subject of several interactive films published by Tethras Enterprises. These films were wildly popular due at least in part to the player being able to customize Shepard, from gender to appearance. Shepard could even have romances with several of the colorful cast of characters. The viewer was able to experience the adventures using Shepard as an avatar, making choices for Shepard and customizing the story to suit individual tastes
Over its five year run, numerous adventures where made available for Shepard's fans to experience. Though the central plot invovled foiling the "Reapers" a mythological race of sentient AIs the films credited for the extinction of the Protheans.
Shepard's run ended with the so-called "Shepard Incident". The conclusion of the final film was considered so controversial that it caused an unprecedented uproar which even a rereleased ending could not quell.
Currently Tethras Enterprises has no plans to bring back Shepard for other stories. However, they are looking into the licensing Blasto for a new series.
The entire trilogy was a story in a story
#953
Posté 01 février 2014 - 05:59
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You bite your tongue, iakus......just....no.
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 06:04
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Mcfly616 wrote...
You bite your tongue, iakus......just....no.
I dare, ya, Bioware. GO FULL META!!!
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 08:55
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iakus wrote...
Fred0071 wrote...
liggy002 wrote...
Harorrd wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
"... and then Shepard woke up in bed and it had all been a dream....."
Ok, there is NO way we would do that becuase it is among the cheesiest McGuffin around, but it is an example of what can be done. I can't say the more "real" possibilities because I may accidentally mention what may really happen. I'm just saying that people who think it MUST be X or XY are really limiting their vision.
Thats not cheep, it bloody brilliant. You save the failure of ME3 and get to rebot the franchise from a fresh clean sheet of paper.
haha, that would be strange but if it meant a better ME trilogy, I'd be game for it.
What happened from ME1 onwards could be what Shepard saw in the Prothean beacon which showed him what COULD be done in the war against the Reapers.
My own idea:
Codex Entry: Commander Shepard "The First Human Spectre" is a fictional character and the subject of several interactive films published by Tethras Enterprises. These films were wildly popular due at least in part to the player being able to customize Shepard, from gender to appearance. Shepard could even have romances with several of the colorful cast of characters. The viewer was able to experience the adventures using Shepard as an avatar, making choices for Shepard and customizing the story to suit individual tastes
Over its five year run, numerous adventures where made available for Shepard's fans to experience. Though the central plot invovled foiling the "Reapers" a mythological race of sentient AIs the films credited for the extinction of the Protheans.
Shepard's run ended with the so-called "Shepard Incident". The conclusion of the final film was considered so controversial that it caused an unprecedented uproar which even a rereleased ending could not quell.
Currently Tethras Enterprises has no plans to bring back Shepard for other stories. However, they are looking into the licensing Blasto for a new series.
The entire trilogy was a story in a story
That's great. You CAN buy the Mass Effect novels in the game, I think. I at least found one on the Citadel. Haven't tried hunting for others yet, so that'd make a kind of sense. So that'd make those books... a story in a story in a story.
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 09:56
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Fred0071 wrote...
That's great. You CAN buy the Mass Effect novels in the game, I think. I at least found one on the Citadel. Haven't tried hunting for others yet, so that'd make a kind of sense. So that'd make those books... a story in a story in a story.
Yes, you can buy Revelation and Ascension in ME2.
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 10:00
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I also like the idea of having Shepard being captured by the Shadow Broker instead of by Cerberus at the start of ME2, and he could have been in a kind of coma until he wakes up on the Shadow Broker ship and has to escape in the first mission.
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 10:07
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Does anyone know if any ME3 saves will transfer to ME4? If BioWare is going with a whole new protagonist and cast I doubt it but I want to make sure I don't need to save my games.
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Posté 01 février 2014 - 11:28
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There's been no announcement. But it's hard to conceive of Bio finding a use for them, especially since we're changing console generations.
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#961
Posté 01 février 2014 - 11:37
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I'm sure as hell that they are done with the previous trilogy. Expect no save file import or anything.
It's a fresh start this time.
It's a fresh start this time.
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 03:57
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I don't get this notion that Synthesis means the end of storytelling. Hello, Shepard was already a Synthesis being at the beginning of ME2 and that didn't stop the story.
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 08:06
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AtlasMickey wrote...
I don't get this notion that Synthesis means the end of storytelling. Hello, Shepard was already a Synthesis being at the beginning of ME2 and that didn't stop the story.
No he was not. He did, however, represent a potential partial movement towards it. (This is hinted not so much in the main story, but in certain DLCs, and secondary missions like Geth Consensus)
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 08:11
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They will probably do what they are with the Dragon Age franchise by doing something akin to Dragon Age Keep. So probably save your favorite campaigns in case they develop a way to import those into that sort of system.Frybread76 wrote...
Does anyone know if any ME3 saves will transfer to ME4? If BioWare is going with a whole new protagonist and cast I doubt it but I want to make sure I don't need to save my games.
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 08:36
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Frybread76 wrote...
Does anyone know if any ME3 saves will transfer to ME4? If BioWare is going with a whole new protagonist and cast I doubt it but I want to make sure I don't need to save my games.
We could always cross our fingers and hope for a Mass Effect Keep.
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 08:37
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Iakus, I would get Mass Effect 4 if they use the idea that you mentioned and they went full meta. Such a great way to do something different and if they mess up the new one they can meta the meta.
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Posté 02 février 2014 - 08:26
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ME2-3 is Shepard's meta journey. How could you not see that. It is wish fulfillment (both for players and for 'Shepard') at its finest.
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Posté 09 février 2014 - 05:12
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I just did a replay of ME1 and on Ilos when you talk to the VI, he explains that the keepers evolved beyond the reapers control and that essential they were more normal which the reapers could not have foreseen. That is part of why the Protheans plans worked in ME1. With this logic, that the keepers had in fact evolved beyond the changes made which are essentially some version of synthesis and what was done to Saren, my theory that they could write synthesis out through evolution using a prologue to explain it. It's in the dialogue if you go to ilos and ask about the keepers (left hand of the tree I think at the end of the conversation before you head out with the file you need). So they could basically reset the universe and even just jump a few thousand years into the future. We also have a basis for this with Eve and how her targeted organs were made obsolete via evolution which was why she was immune. They have two examples now of how evolution FIXED what was changed (first case a form of synthesis with the keepers, second case obsolete organs allowing for immunity to genophage). And given that the genophage was what? 1400 years? It's possible to write out synthesis and resent the MEU to pre-reaper state no matter what you decision was. For synthesis, they could simply say that in seeing evolution take place and override synthesis, the reapers returned to dark space to contemplate the error or their logic as they now see that organics cannot be changed permanently so their concept of balance was clearly flawed.
They have two clear examples in their own cannon. Nothing outside. It's right there in ME1 and ME3. They'd be crazy not to use it. And what's a few thousand years? Not much for civilizations that have been around for 15000 years like the Turians. Longer for the Asari if they were evolving 50k years ago when the protheans were wiped out.
They have two clear examples in their own cannon. Nothing outside. It's right there in ME1 and ME3. They'd be crazy not to use it. And what's a few thousand years? Not much for civilizations that have been around for 15000 years like the Turians. Longer for the Asari if they were evolving 50k years ago when the protheans were wiped out.
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Posté 09 février 2014 - 05:14
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If ME4 is on Xbox One, there wil be no way to transfer a save. Also, if it's a new story, there would be new decisions to start. The most you would have to do is choose what you decision was at the end which would be set up like choosing what class to be or like in ME1 where you choose if you were war hero, ruthless, etc.
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Posté 09 février 2014 - 05:19
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AtlasMickey wrote...
I don't get this notion that Synthesis means the end of storytelling. Hello, Shepard was already a Synthesis being at the beginning of ME2 and that didn't stop the story.
Shepard was not actually synthesis. Synthesis was some sort of overriding universal space magic that made everything some kind of hybrid of synthetics and organics. Essentially reaper like - what they did to the races they harvested without the extra yick factor. Shepard was more like a person who had synthetics in him/her which were used to help bring him/her back to life. Like having screws or plates when you break a bone but clearly more involved. However, implants are quite different than being reaperized and reaperized was what happened to everything in the MEU after synthesis. Even the trees on the planet they land on have that weird glowing synthesis stuff. Pure space magic which could never even be remotely possible.
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Posté 10 février 2014 - 03:29
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It's fun to speculate.
But:
EA owns the Mass Effect Franchise (as it is now called and that never, ever bodes well for a property) and insist that MP and constant online-ability be in everything now. Let us also not forget that assertion by BioWare that they "want Call Of Duty's (and by extension Battlefield 3's) audience". This will have a direct effect on the new Franchise.
That has to be kept in mind when one speculates on the next installment of the Franchise. Even that - it is no longer "just" Mass Effect. It's a Franchise. They are not going to get millions upon millions to develop some immensely long and deep story-driven installment. Those days are long past. Dustbinned. Story and characterization no longer matters. Bottom line always.
A new "Mass Effect" every year and a half, built on the Battlefield 3 model. Vehicles, customization, multiplayer all set in the ME Universe. Money in the bank. COD-like you get to swap out characters for various missions, a turian for this one, a krogan for that, an asari to finish, all in a shallow story that lasts eight hours and is basically a tutorial to get you eased into the MP. That game model makes hundreds of millions. Why would they not go that way? Especially after alienating so many and smearing the ME brand all over? Money talks and bullsh!t walks.
I would like to be proven wrong. But then I remember what they told us about ME3, things like "no MP", "you can pick up enemy weapons", "deeper customization", "choices will play out to satisfying conclusions and have consequences". They even promised to "fix Shepard's bad shoulder".
They did none of those things. I can't believe anything they'll tell us. Whatever credibility they had vanished in a puff of red, green and blue smoke and then all the smoke they tried to blow up our asses. Get excited after it's released, if it merits it, not before. Before just leads to crushing disappointment.
But:
EA owns the Mass Effect Franchise (as it is now called and that never, ever bodes well for a property) and insist that MP and constant online-ability be in everything now. Let us also not forget that assertion by BioWare that they "want Call Of Duty's (and by extension Battlefield 3's) audience". This will have a direct effect on the new Franchise.
That has to be kept in mind when one speculates on the next installment of the Franchise. Even that - it is no longer "just" Mass Effect. It's a Franchise. They are not going to get millions upon millions to develop some immensely long and deep story-driven installment. Those days are long past. Dustbinned. Story and characterization no longer matters. Bottom line always.
A new "Mass Effect" every year and a half, built on the Battlefield 3 model. Vehicles, customization, multiplayer all set in the ME Universe. Money in the bank. COD-like you get to swap out characters for various missions, a turian for this one, a krogan for that, an asari to finish, all in a shallow story that lasts eight hours and is basically a tutorial to get you eased into the MP. That game model makes hundreds of millions. Why would they not go that way? Especially after alienating so many and smearing the ME brand all over? Money talks and bullsh!t walks.
I would like to be proven wrong. But then I remember what they told us about ME3, things like "no MP", "you can pick up enemy weapons", "deeper customization", "choices will play out to satisfying conclusions and have consequences". They even promised to "fix Shepard's bad shoulder".
They did none of those things. I can't believe anything they'll tell us. Whatever credibility they had vanished in a puff of red, green and blue smoke and then all the smoke they tried to blow up our asses. Get excited after it's released, if it merits it, not before. Before just leads to crushing disappointment.
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Posté 10 février 2014 - 05:38
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^ I hope none of that is true but I'm not preordering ME4 either. I'll rent it first before deciding to buy it on my PC.
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Posté 10 février 2014 - 09:09
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We'll see with the next game.
For myself, ME3 took actually longer than ME2 and I enjoyed it mostly overall.
I completely understand not believing their words though. It's why I'm at default state of not preordering or Collectors edition anymore. Makes me a bit sad, but they collectively dug this hole for themselves where most Mass fans I know IRL are of the same opinion.
For myself, ME3 took actually longer than ME2 and I enjoyed it mostly overall.
I completely understand not believing their words though. It's why I'm at default state of not preordering or Collectors edition anymore. Makes me a bit sad, but they collectively dug this hole for themselves where most Mass fans I know IRL are of the same opinion.
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Posté 20 août 2014 - 10:38
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I would like believing which Shepard did not die (in fact, he did not die because he BREATHES in the end of Mass Effect 3 that I chose). I would like seeing an expansion for Mass Effect 3 and what the Bioware creating involving histories again, more prepared histories and with more friendship between the characters. I would like that my Shepard was taking a beer with Jacob Taylor in the Rio, it knew the family of Kaidan Alenko in Canada. I read what someone said: ' I am Shepard itself '. I also identified with the character.
(sorry about my poor English, my mistakes).
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Posté 20 août 2014 - 11:04
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