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[DemiserofD]

Why not just have the whole thing be set two hundred years in the future and just never mention the whole Reaper War except as side reference to other stuff?

"The ending days of the Reaper War remain shrouded in myth, with many varying theories as to its conclusion. One of the more widely accepted claims was that the Alliance, in coalition with several other council races, created a superweapon that was able to disable the Reaper threat. What it actually did, however, is still debated to this day. Some claim that it obliterated the reapers in a massive wave of energy transported through the Mass Relays. Others claim that the same wave instead overwrote their programming, while still others make the wild claim that the energy pulse somehow fused all synthetic and organic life in the galaxy.

 

However, none of these theories have been able to be conclusively proven, and with the chaos that took place in the latter days of the war, they may never be. What we do know is that in its conclusion, virtually every race in the galaxy had suffered dramatic losses. Turian, Asari, Salarian, and Human forces were hit extremely hard, but not as hard as the Geth and Quarians, who were nearly wiped out in a combination of fighting with the Reapers and infighting amongst themselves. The Rachni, somehow resurrected during the war, retreated beyond the Omega Four Relay and have not been seen since, and the Krogan, despite being cured of the genophage sometime during the war or post-war period, still have not recovered fully."

The reapers are gone, the relays were repaired, and the truth one way or another is so highly classified even zeus doesn't know it. Because, Destroy: Council doesn't want anyone else making a similar superweapon, Control: They don't want the political fallout of the Reapers still being alive and waiting outside the galaxy, Synthesis: They don't want the political fallout from having genetically modified every species in the galaxy without their consent.

 

Suddenly, none of the games make any difference one way or another. Which is basically what they'd do anyway.

[Iakus]

Because long-lived species like krogan and asari would remember.

 

There's also the question of what happened to the :

 

Reapers

Geth

Quarians

Rachni

 

All of which can be outright extinct by the end

 

as well as

 

Hanar/Drell

Krogan

 

Which could be dying out in the next century or so

 

As well as stuff like whether everyone's skin/eyes glow green, how busted up is Earth/the galaxy is and whether or not there's a functioning relay network anymore.

[DemiserofD]

Because long-lived species like krogan and asari would remember.

 

There's also the question of what happened to the :

 

Reapers

Geth

Quarians

Rachni

 

All of which can be outright extinct by the end

 

as well as

 

Hanar/Drell

Krogan

 

Which could be dying out in the next century or so

 

As well as stuff like whether everyone's skin/eyes glow green, how busted up is Earth/the galaxy is and whether or not there's a functioning relay network anymore.

 

 

Well then just throw in the Mass Effect version of The Warp in the West. Have ALL the possible things happen and have everyone be confused/remember it differently. The Mass Relay energy wave broke space and time or something.

 

Then just have everyone arguing about what really happened, just like they do in real life. If you only mention it once or twice, most people won't really care all that much.

[KaiserShep]

I suppose it's no surprise that this thread lives on, even though the answer is obviously "that's impossible."

[SlottsMachine]

I suppose it's no surprise that this thread lives on, even though the answer is obviously "that's impossible."

 

I have had about enough of you. What is this??!!!

[AlanC9]

1. It hasn't happened yet (prequel/simultaneous timeline), or
2. We're so far away in space or time we're not affected (out of range), or
3. ME3 didn't happen for some reason (retcon), or
4. you didn't really get to choose at the end of ME3 anyway and we chose something for you to put the galaxy into a known fixed state.

4 is conflating two distinct concepts, you know.

[Arcian]

Consider all 3 endings

Stopped reading here, because really, why would THEY consider the endings? They didn't consider ME1's endings. They didn't consider ME2's endings. You're deluding yourself if you believe the ME3 endings will be more than a tiny footnote in ME4.

[Ravensword]

I'm guessing it's gonna be a reboot. No Shepard and Reapers never existed.

[Farangbaa]

I'm kinda hoping they make an AU, with the same species but much more grim setting. Stronger hatred between species, more war between species. No council, just a continuous struggle for power between the species.

 

And in that setting suddenly the humans pop up.

 

Make the mass relays an invention of the Asari so we can skip the Reapers altogether.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

I'm guessing it's gonna be a reboot. No Shepard and Reapers never existed.

 

I think the more likely scenario (I think a lot of people will be upset with that development of it being a reboot) is that they'll leave the entire ME Trilogy scenario as, 'The Reapers attacked and Shepard stopped them. Let's never speak of it again.'

 

It comes from BW's continued refusal to really talk about the ending. They really don't want to talk about it at all, what they were doing, what they were trying to do, what they were shooting for, etc. The more I look at it, the more I think even BW is going to treat the ending as mistake, a bigged-lipped alligator moment sans the comedy that they believe is best forgotten by everyone. I can hardly blame them if that's the case, especially since it's a new group of writers working on it. If what Patrick Weekes said was true, even other writers at BW thought the ending was crap. He didn't say that it was bad outright, but then again, he really couldn't say that if he wanted to have a job the next day. 

[Ravensword]

I think the more likely scenario (I think a lot of people will be upset with that development of it being a reboot) is that they'll leave the entire ME Trilogy scenario as, 'The Reapers attacked and Shepard stopped them. Let's never speak of it again.'
 
It comes from BW's continued refusal to really talk about the ending. They really don't want to talk about it at all, what they were doing, what they were trying to do, what they were shooting for, etc. The more I look at it, the more I think even BW is going to treat the ending as mistake, a bigged-lipped alligator moment sans the comedy that they believe is best forgotten by everyone. I can hardly blame them if that's the case, especially since it's a new group of writers working on it. If what Patrick Weekes said was true, even other writers at BW thought the ending was crap. He didn't say that it was bad outright, but then again, he really couldn't say that if he wanted to have a job the next day.

People are upset about the fact that Shepard isn't gonna be in the next. I don't see why a reboot would matter to anyone that's not still invested in the ME trilogy.

I can accept that the ending being treated as a mistake, and if the writers don't wanna talk about it, then might as well make the next game in the series a reboot, otherwise it's gonna be odd when people in the new ME game are walking around saying, "Reaper war? What the hell are you talking about?"

Also, consider the fact that a post-Reaper universe would have a noticeable affect on the universe, which would mean that the writers would have to canonize an ending w/ Control perhaps having the least effect on the galaxy, unless of course God Emperor Shepard is shaping the events of the ME universe. If they were to canonize an ending, I'm guessing it would be Destroy; no Reapers and the story taking place in the future where much of the mass effect relay network has been repaired.

[Iakus]

 

I think the more likely scenario (I think a lot of people will be upset with that development of it being a reboot) is that they'll leave the entire ME Trilogy scenario as, 'The Reapers attacked and Shepard stopped them. Let's never speak of it again.'

 

It comes from BW's continued refusal to really talk about the ending. They really don't want to talk about it at all, what they were doing, what they were trying to do, what they were shooting for, etc. The more I look at it, the more I think even BW is going to treat the ending as mistake, a bigged-lipped alligator moment sans the comedy that they believe is best forgotten by everyone. I can hardly blame them if that's the case, especially since it's a new group of writers working on it. If what Patrick Weekes said was true, even other writers at BW thought the ending was crap. He didn't say that it was bad outright, but then again, he really couldn't say that if he wanted to have a job the next day. 

I could go with either this or the "Shepard and the Reapers never existed"  Either would be a tacit acknowledgement from Bioware that a lot of players prefer to end teh game with Citadel than Priority: Earth (for whatever reason)

 

For me, the ending sewuences seem like something akin to a Disney Acid Sequence anyway.  With a healthy dose of Nightmare Fuel, even with EC.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The actors who played the characters are sitting in a movie theater at the opening and watching the movie "Mass Effect: The Reaper War."

 

Javik: You did a good job Shepard, but whoever wrote the script was an idiot. Why did they have you running into the explosion when you fired into the tube at the end Shepard?

 

Guy who played voice of Harbinger: And I didn't even get a single line this time. That was lame.

 

Kid: That was because you overdid it with your "This hurts you" and "We are your salvation through your destruction" in the last movie."

 

Liara: And you never did learn how to drive.

 

Tali: Whoever wrote the Geth Consensus scenes was terrible. We should have been shown without our suits.

 

Wrex: I'm just glad Tuchanka doesn't really look like that.

 

Bakara: And we don't really have the genophage.

 

Wrex: We'd have to eat the Salarians.

 

Javik: Salarian kidney is a delicacy. ha ha ha

 

Garrus: And Shepard never did learn how to dance.

 

Shepard: Would you guys lighten up. I can dance. It was that lousy script.

 

James: But Miranda's ass shots made up for that.

 

Jack: Okay, Shepard, let's see you dance.

 

Shepard: you're on. Cast party.

 

Liara: So you Protheans really did build the Mass Relays?

 

Javik: Yes, but our empire is crumbling now. Corruption runs deep. We are only a shell of what we once were 50,000 years ago. We ruled the entire galaxy then. Now we only rule a small portion of it. It saddens me.

 

Liara: But was any of that real?

 

Javik: The Metacon War. We unified the galaxy against the machines. Eventually, we were victorious.

[Iakus]

Would buy  

 

Especially if the Vorcha Councilor ends up betraying Shepard 

[KaiserShep]

I'm kinda hoping they make an AU, with the same species but much more grim setting. Stronger hatred between species, more war between species. No council, just a continuous struggle for power between the species.

 

And in that setting suddenly the humans pop up.

 

Make the mass relays an invention of the Asari so we can skip the Reapers altogether.

 

You had me right up until having the relays be an asari invention. I'd prefer it just stay a prothean thing that's left behind, and the protheans could have simply died out some other way. Heck, we already get a glimpse of worlds that used to be populated with advanced life, reduced to nothing but microbes because of some crazy bombardment that killed the biospheres.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I say leave a small corner of the galaxy as a remnant of the once glorious Prothean Empire. Sort of like Byzantium. They're isolationist and they locked out their systems for fear of being eliminated. They hold two clusters we haven't discovered yet. We discover them in ME4. They are not mighty and powerful.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I'm kinda hoping they make an AU, with the same species but much more grim setting. Stronger hatred between species, more war between species. No council, just a continuous struggle for power between the species.

 

And in that setting suddenly the humans pop up.

 

Make the mass relays an invention of the Asari so we can skip the Reapers altogether.

 

That sounds fun. Only I would keep the Relays origins Protheans, then just leave their fate shrouded in mystery. The possible story could be racing to find the Conduit (which would be different) before the other species do. Saren can be the Turian trying to find it, Benezia the Asari, etc. At the end Shepard can destroy the thing, use it to insure human dominance, sue for cooperation amongst the species, etc.

[Farangbaa]

That sounds fun. Only I would keep the Relays origins Protheans, then just leave their fate shrouded in mystery. The possible story could be racing to find the Conduit (which would be different) before the other species do. Saren can be the Turian trying to find it, Benezia the Asari, etc. At the end Shepard can destroy the thing, use it to insure human dominance, sue for cooperation amongst the species, etc.

I was kinda thinking no Shepard, Saren or Benezia either. Just the same species (and maybe a few new ones) and Mass Relays to have a reason to keep calling it Mass Effect.

[SilJeff]

Stopped reading here, because really, why would THEY consider the endings? They didn't consider ME1's endings. They didn't consider ME2's endings. You're deluding yourself if you believe the ME3 endings will be more than a tiny footnote in ME4.

They did consider ME1's ending in ME2! Remember Anderson's outfit change??

(This one is being sarcastic by the way)

[ImaginaryMatter]

I was kinda thinking no Shepard, Saren or Benezia either. Just the same species (and maybe a few new ones) and Mass Relays to have a reason to keep calling it Mass Effect.

 

Oh.

 

Never mind then.

[Ravensword]

I say leave a small corner of the galaxy as a remnant of the once glorious Prothean Empire. Sort of like Byzantium. They're isolationist and they locked out their systems for fear of being eliminated. They hold two clusters we haven't discovered yet. We discover them in ME4. They are not mighty and powerful.

And then you can encourage them to administer political mutilations to anyone who might be a threat to the emperor.

[TurianRebel212]

They're not and they shouldn't. They should only cater to the most economically viable audience, whether that be the more ME1/ME2 crowd or ME3 type of crowd, they'll have to decide. But they should only do what's best for them and not worry about their customers opinions about their game. They need to deliver a working product that sells millions of copies and gets lots of pre-orders. The rest.... eh, it will take care of itself. 

[De1ta0m3ga]

Only way I can think of it is if they make three (not four, Refusal shouldn't be canon IMO) basically separate games, obviously one for SynthShep, one for DestroyShep, and one for ControlShep.  But since I don't think this is feasible, perhaps they'll send us back to the previous cycle as an "uplifted human" (think Shadow Broker-esque) to do stuff with the Protheans.  Or center the game around unexplored events of our cycle, such as other Cerberus activities, ancient ruins (I for one would love to learn more about the previous cycles), or other such nonsense shile Shep saves the Galaxy.