Aller au contenu

Photo

How is Bioware going to keep everyone happy in Me4?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
1056 réponses à ce sujet

#201
dead_goon

dead_goon
  • Members
  • 522 messages

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

They won't, they will just pick an canon ending and go along with it.


This.

They know full well that no matter what they do, some one will be peed off, so they'll probably just canonize an ending, reduce it to a Codex entry, then set ME4 in a different part of the MEU a decent amount of time after the events of ME3.

Then do what they normally do & just ignore the complaints.  Image IPB

#202
GiarcYekrub

GiarcYekrub
  • Members
  • 706 messages

The Night Mammoth wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Except for:
- The utter destruction of the Reapers
- Reapers under new management
- Perminant fusion of all organic and synthetic life

So... the bits which actually matter and cause problems for writing a consistant universe there-after.


The Reapers leaving in Scenarios 2 & 3 make it mostly cosistent with Scenario 1.
Perminant fusion of all organic and synthetic life is barely explained, I say give a new biotic abilty or something and make AI character more friendly, the after glow can fade or be an optional choice


So you support trivializing this massively important decision? 

You're BioWare's target audience.


Yeah I'd support trivializing it over forcing a canon choice in a heartbeat

Modifié par GiarcYekrub, 25 janvier 2013 - 01:37 .


#203
Dean_the_Young

Dean_the_Young
  • Members
  • 20 676 messages

CronoDragoon wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Well, most people one Bioware would say that it was 1 ending, with 19 different epilogue pieces. But an 'ending state' often gets confused with 'endings', and so...


I'm inclined to believe that what people wanted was 1. visual confirmation during Priority Earth of the choices you made (short scene of Rachni, etc) and short scenes that played highlighting the different states of the galaxy/characters. Which means that I believe people were not really after unique endings in the way that Control/Destroy/Synthesis are unique but rather unique meaning personalized. In short, I believe what people wanted were different ending states.

Different ending states is what they had: even before the EC the implications for Control/Destroy/Synthesis were aapparent, and the various Big Decisions still existed. People just trivealized the difference in states due to a lack of distinction between the endings (which was resolved by the introduction of the Epilogues).

#204
tolkienelf

tolkienelf
  • Members
  • 7 messages
While I doubt they can please everyone the following seems plausible to me:
For the Green choice since everybody is a hybrid and presumably all interconnected through a network an argument could be made that everybody is now singing “Kumbaya” and thus no conflict.  Just give some type of movie explaining this and be done.
For Blue choice have this be some type of trap (as others in this forum have proposed in other threads) and that Shepard just became the New Catalyst or new Harbinger and thus the cycle continued after all. Maybe the cycle doesn’t start again for the the next 50,000 years so I guess a game could still be done under this premise and set in between or at the 50,000 year mark.  
As much as I like the refusal end this doesn’t break the cycle so either have a game set 50,000 years in the future where alien species find Liaras message and go from there or (if they must have a human protagonist) disregard it as canon since it doesn’t solve the conflict.
Use the Red choice as canon.
So blue and Red allow for a continuation with a human without major changes other than Geth alive or not and Relay network completely fixed or still in disarray.

#205
Kel Riever

Kel Riever
  • Members
  • 7 065 messages
Well, when you see a thread titled, "What ideas do you have for a new Ending to ME3? " get locked down, you can believe that BioWare is well on the path to making another awful game. Like Hollywood, they'll tell you to buy it and try it before making a decision....right....you get exactly how bad an idea that is already, don't you?

ME4, or the next ME game, as far as I can tell, is just a pointless excercise of stubbornness and/or trying to save the franchise after burning it to the ground. You know, without fixing the actual problem. What we have to look forward to, though, is a lot of good laughs. And free Multiplayer DLC. Which makes a better game than the paid single player DLC it seems.

Irony. I wish more companies made free products I liked better than their paid products, I suppose. There's a lot of enjoyment to be gained by someone else keeping a company afloat so I can play their games. It is not exactly worthy of praise or thanks, but I sure do like my single player game mode for no cost other than what fool advertisers spend on my logging in, or someone else spends sending BioWare money!

#206
vandalDX

vandalDX
  • Members
  • 193 messages
My question in response is this: how many players refuse to engage with Dragon Age III because of dissatisfaction with Dragon Age II?

#207
Chris Priestly

Chris Priestly
  • Members
  • 7 259 messages
To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:

#208
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:


I'm the only fan that qualifies as yahadayahdaing..lol

#209
vandalDX

vandalDX
  • Members
  • 193 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:


Well, this is terribly exciting: the expansion of something already so vast.  I'm so pleased to know that good--great, really--science fiction isn't limited to the tale of a single group of characters.  One of the things that always intrigued me was the relative proximity of the ME trilogy as far as dates, seeing as a lot of hard sci-fi/space opera settings are so far-future.  The ME setting's closeness to modern day makes expanding the universe--and telling a large number of tales within it--makes the future of BioWare's IP pretty bright.  I'm sure--like every BioWare game I've played--it'll be worth waiting for.

Modifié par valhallaVANDAL, 25 janvier 2013 - 05:10 .


#210
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages
[/quote]

Well, this is terribly exciting: the expansion of something already so vast.  I'm so pleased to know that good--great, really--science fiction isn't limited to the tale of a single group of characters.  One of the things that always intrigued me was the relative proximity of the ME trilogy as far as dates, seeing as a lot of hard sci-fi/space opera settings are so far-future.  The ME setting's closeness to modern day makes expanding the universe--and telling a large number of tales within it--makes the future of BioWare's IP pretty bright.  I'm sure--like every BioWare game I've played--it'll be worth waiting for.

[/quote]

I assumed that the next installment would a 'newly cast' opera. I'm more interested in the next DLC,as it effect the mass effect in realtime. Chris won't comment on that tho..reapers'd get'em..lol

edit: the stargazer scene promotes DLC, not ME#.. imo

Modifié par Wayning_Star, 25 janvier 2013 - 05:17 .


#211
Jadebaby

Jadebaby
  • Members
  • 13 229 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:


It sounds like it would be a disservice to call the next game Mass Effect.

#212
Amish Love Machine

Amish Love Machine
  • Members
  • 106 messages
They're not going to be able to keep everyone happy.

#213
vandalDX

vandalDX
  • Members
  • 193 messages

Wayning_Star wrote...


Well, this is terribly exciting: the expansion of something already so vast.  I'm so pleased to know that good--great, really--science fiction isn't limited to the tale of a single group of characters.  One of the things that always intrigued me was the relative proximity of the ME trilogy as far as dates, seeing as a lot of hard sci-fi/space opera settings are so far-future.  The ME setting's closeness to modern day makes expanding the universe--and telling a large number of tales within it--makes the future of BioWare's IP pretty bright.  I'm sure--like every BioWare game I've played--it'll be worth waiting for.


I assumed that the next installment would a 'newly cast' opera. I'm more interested in the next DLC,as it effect the mass effect in realtime. Chris won't comment on that tho..reapers'd get'em..lol

edit: the stargazer scene promotes DLC, not ME#.. imo


Agreed!  The future is bright for those of us who play BioWare games-- more ME3 (soon!), Dragon Age III, and a "new opera" thereafter.  I'm so thinking of ME Next as that from now on.

Modifié par valhallaVANDAL, 25 janvier 2013 - 05:23 .


#214
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

Amish Love Machine wrote...

They're not going to be able to keep everyone happy.


well, complaining 'can' be a form of happiness... Image IPB

#215
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 290 messages
Well the options are rather limited, unless the next game bearing Mass Effect in its title is a part of the series in spirit only.

A prequel isn't a popular idea, and a sequel would be hard to do for obvious reasons.

But maybe that's just it, the next will be connected to Shepard's story by the words, Mass and Effect and in no other way.

#216
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

JadeShepard wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:


It sounds like it would be a disservice to call the next game Mass Effect.


not really, if it's in the MEU.. the same, only different. Shep was a good soldier..when picking ___________.

#217
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

Steelcan wrote...

Well the options are rather limited, unless the next game bearing Mass Effect in its title is a part of the series in spirit only.

A prequel isn't a popular idea, and a sequel would be hard to do for obvious reasons.

But maybe that's just it, the next will be connected to Shepard's story by the words, Mass and Effect and in no other way.


didn't anyone but me notice the Image IPB at the end of Chriss' post?


actually, fans will just have to buck up and be fans of the MEU. Shep is history.. apparently.  It'll be interesting to see what bioware/whoever will come up with. imho

#218
Jadebaby

Jadebaby
  • Members
  • 13 229 messages
lol I see what you did there ...

It just feels like that if it's a sequel, they have to choose an ending because the choices are so epic in scope and meaning. It changes the entire galaxy.

#219
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 290 messages

JadeShepard wrote...

lol I see what you did there ...

It just feels like that if it's a sequel, they have to choose an ending because the choices are so epic in scope and meaning. It changes the entire galaxy.

. Which is why a prequel would be the better choice, but interest is lacking in that department, understandably.

#220
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

JadeShepard wrote...

lol I see what you did there ...

It just feels like that if it's a sequel, they have to choose an ending because the choices are so epic in scope and meaning. It changes the entire galaxy.


no prerecorded canon ending.. Sheps is all alone in the MEU..apparently.

#221
Guest_BringBackNihlus_*

Guest_BringBackNihlus_*
  • Guests
I still want the Mass Effect games to end with Shepard (no ambiguity would be nice, but I think that ship has sailed), but I imagine I'm in the hella minority tbh.

#222
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 290 messages

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I still want the Mass Effect games to end with Shepard (no ambiguity would be nice, but I think that ship has sailed), but I imagine I'm in the hella minority tbh.

. If they can't do it well they shouldn't try

#223
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I still want the Mass Effect games to end with Shepard (no ambiguity would be nice, but I think that ship has sailed), but I imagine I'm in the hella minority tbh.


all we'd have to do is get everyone on the BSN and the outer realms to pick one and agree it works..easy peasy!

#224
Wayning_Star

Wayning_Star
  • Members
  • 8 016 messages

Steelcan wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I still want the Mass Effect games to end with Shepard (no ambiguity would be nice, but I think that ship has sailed), but I imagine I'm in the hella minority tbh.

. If they can't do it well they shouldn't try


I'm wait'n on the next DLC to post my predeterminationals..lol

#225
crimzontearz

crimzontearz
  • Members
  • 16 779 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



:devil:



 
I am going to have to call BS on this. Unless BW is planning a prequel they will have to deal with the way ME3 ended regardless of how you call it. Like joker is easier to say than "flight lieutenant Jeff Moreau" so is ME4 easier than "the next game set in the Mass Effect universe"