Modifié par Iamjdr, 22 janvier 2013 - 07:29 .
Is the trilogy better off without ME2?
#126
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:28
#127
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:28
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Sure. And ME3's writers were also ME2's writers and ME1's writers, who started the train down its path.
To be fair, if I recall correctly, out of the orignal writing team from ME 1 only Mac Walters Patrick Weekes worked on Mass Effect 3.
#128
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:29
#129
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:33
I'm fairly sure you recall incorrectly, but will admit I'm not going to go line by line of three games of credits just to compare and contrasts all the individual writers.Fixers0 wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Sure. And ME3's writers were also ME2's writers and ME1's writers, who started the train down its path.
To be fair, if I recall correctly, out of the orignal writing team from ME 1 only Mac Walters Patrick Weekes worked on Mass Effect 3.
#130
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:35
#131
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:39
#132
Posté 22 janvier 2013 - 07:41
Dean_the_Young wrote...
I'm fairly sure you recall incorrectly, but will admit I'm not going to go line by line of three games of credits just to compare and contrasts all the individual writers.
I actually rewatched the credits just ago, and the only writers both credited in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3 are Mac Walters and Patrcik Weekes.
#133
Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 07:14
#134
Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 08:02
ME3 = ME2
ME2 = A prequel to ME2 titled, Mass Effect: Tales of the Terminus
#135
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 01:59
Problem of ME2 and ME3 is a reapers arrival. Not only it destroys ME1(overarching series plot), turn it into nonsense - reapers just sat in dark space for a thousands of years of Sovereign machinations, when they could just fly into a galaxy in 0.5-3 years losing completely nothing - it also removed any possiblity for victory other than asspulled superweapon. And even that was made horrible.Ticonderoga117 wrote...
CronoDragoon wrote...
ME2 is much better as a stand-alone story than it is as a middle part of the trilogy's plot.
How? There is no "magic gun" waiting on a far off planet. The Reapers have only very recently miss stepped, and it's not on the scale of "Oops, left the plans for that very dangerous weapon out in the open. Heh. Oh well, guess we're just going to leave it there then."
The only hope the Galaxy had was to unite and branch out in technology, and ME2 covers the beginning of this well enough.
Modifié par Maxster_, 24 janvier 2013 - 01:59 .
#136
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:05
General Slotts wrote...
ME1 = ME1
ME3 = ME2
ME2 = A prequel to ME2 titled, Mass Effect: Tales of the Terminus
Given ME2's utter pointlessness I don't see why this series wasn't simply a duology. It would have been better to simply jump from 1 to 3(while removing 3's Derperus altogether) for continuity.
I guess everything just "has" to be a trilogy these days.
#137
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:12
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Overall I think it would have been better had ME been a series of standalone games and not a trilogy at all.
Modifié par Cthulhu42, 24 janvier 2013 - 02:12 .
#138
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:16
Cthulhu42 wrote...
ME2 was pretty irrelevant to the main plot of the trilogy, true. It's still my favourite, though, by a large margin (despite the occasional derp moments like Project Lazarus and "let's all go on the shuttle while the crew gets kidnapped").
Overall I think it would have been better had ME been a series of standalone games and not a trilogy at all.
With some great improvements ME2 could have been a real solid stand alone story.
One thing they should have done is instead of daddy issue loyalty missions is have ones where you have to use the specific squadmate's abilities for the central plot like using Thane to assasinate some prominent Collector collaborater or have Kasumi steal something valauble from them.
Modifié par Seboist, 24 janvier 2013 - 02:21 .
#139
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:21
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Yeah, only using the squadmates' abilites for the final battle (and then only a few of them) made you wonder what the point of recruiting most of them was.Seboist wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
ME2 was pretty irrelevant to the main plot of the trilogy, true. It's still my favourite, though, by a large margin (despite the occasional derp moments like Project Lazarus and "let's all go on the shuttle while the crew gets kidnapped").
Overall I think it would have been better had ME been a series of standalone games and not a trilogy at all.
With some great improvements ME2 could have been a real solid stand alone story.
One thing they should have done is instead of daddy issue loyalty missions have ones where you have to use the specific squadmate's abilities for the central plot like using Thane to assasinate some prominent Collector collaborater or have Kasumi steal something valauble from them.
Apparently Tali, Garrus, Jack, Mordin and I could have tackled the Collectors all by ourselves; everyone else ended up being essentially dead weight.
Modifié par Cthulhu42, 24 janvier 2013 - 02:23 .
#140
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:26
#141
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:33
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
#142
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:39
Mass Effect 1 Drew Karpyshyn lead writer
Lukas Kristjanson
Chris L'Etoile
Mike Laidlaw
Mac Walters
Patrick Weekes
Mass Effect 2
Chris Hepler written by
Drew Karpyshyn
Brian Kindregan written by
Lukas Kristjanson written by
Chris L'Etoile written by
Cathleen Rootsaert dialogue editor
Jay Turner written by
Mac Walters lead writer
Patrick Weekes written by
Mass Effect 3
John Dombrow senior writer
Ann Lemay
Neil Pollner senior writer
Cathleen Rootsaert writer
Mac Walters lead writer
Patrick Weekes senior writer
EDIT: Bioware pls. consider to buy some working forum engine because this one is a piece of crap. Thanks.
Modifié par McAllyster, 24 janvier 2013 - 02:44 .
#143
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 04:05
Not a big loss in the end I guess, but yeah Walters and Weekes were the only two in all three.
#144
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 04:35
#145
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 04:41
That would mean stupid stuff like killing of the protagonist at the start of the game only to have them come back to life after two years because the writers clearly didn't have any idea where they were going wouldn't happen.
#146
Guest_Droidsbane42_*
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 04:58
Guest_Droidsbane42_*
#147
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 07:26
This is the second worst plot event for me in the entire trilogy, right behind the infamous ending. Like really, why are people sad about Shepard dying in ME3? Just sweep up his corpse/ashes and make him again!The Night Mammoth wrote...
Sure.
That would mean stupid stuff like killing of the protagonist at the start of the game only to have them come back to life after two years because the writers clearly didn't have any idea where they were going wouldn't happen.
#148
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 07:30
Modifié par archangel1996, 24 janvier 2013 - 07:51 .
#149
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 07:40
archangel1996 wrote...
It is not ME2 fault that is brother ME3 is born both stupidand crappy
This right here. I swear it was ME3's job to incoporate the events of what happened in ME2. It is not ME2's fault that ME3 failed to do this, so I can't see the problem.
#150
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 07:52
mosesarose wrote...
archangel1996 wrote...
It is not ME2 fault that is brother ME3 is born both stupidand crappy
This right here. I swear it was ME3's job to incoporate the events of what happened in ME2. It is not ME2's fault that ME3 failed to do this, so I can't see the problem.
Agree completely





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