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[Morty Smith]

Hexley UK wrote...

doodiebody wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 Temper your expectations.

I can't be the only one that finds this hilarious.  The official post responding to fan optimism that something cool might be coming is basically "People, people, people...remember, this is just DLC.  Expect it to be mediocre and only loosely tied to the main story."

We have our tagline right there.....

Mass Effect 3:Whatever "People, people, people...remember, this is just DLC.  Expect it to be mediocre and only loosely tied to the main story." $15.99

Pre-Ordered!

[TurianRebel212]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

Halo 2 and Mass Effect are completly different games. If you don't get that. Then you don't get ME or get why people are upset. 

[MegaSovereign]

Watch it be about Cerberus.

[Hexley UK]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Like the rest of ME3?

Modifié par Hexley UK, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:22 .

[TurianRebel212]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

[Steelcan]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

. I might lose it

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

[MegaSovereign]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

[PainCakesx]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

You act like BioWare was doing us a favor. I'm glad that they did make the EC, as it is much better than the original endings (not quite there, but better), but let's not act like we owe them for it. They knew that if they didn't do something, that they would a huge chunk of their fanbase. 

I paid $60 for a product and expected to be satisfied. I, as a paying customer, have a right to expect a quality product. BioWare needs people to buy their products, not the other way around. After all, I don't need them to pay my bills. They need us though.

I know plenty of people in real life who have little to no enthusiasm for ME4. This is entirely related to the ending of ME3. As I said before, none of these people post on BSN or post on ME related gaming boards. The disappointment and anger is not confined to BSN, it's real. I love the universe enough that I want to be excited for ME4 and am looking forward to it, but the anticipation is definitely muted from before. Whereas I pre-ordered ME2 and ME3 the instant I could, I will not likely be pre-ordering ME4. I'm going to be sure that it's a good game before plunking down money again.

I'm sure I'm not alone on this either.

Modifié par PainCakesx, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:31 .

[dreamgazer]

3DandBeyond wrote...

doodiebody wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Temper your expectations.

I can't be the only one that finds this hilarious. The official post responding to fan optimism that something cool might be coming is basically "People, people, people...remember, this is just DLC. Expect it to be mediocre and only loosely tied to the main story."

Oh this is so true. It's like saying "be prepared to not like it so if it's bad you won't be disappointed."

Kind of goes against the hype they already started when they said it was "all hands on deck" with all the writers getting in on it and all. Oh right hype is never good.

Well, that quote was in direct response to new ending content, not the DLC as a whole.

C'mon, folks.

[TurianRebel212]

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

As long as I can play multiplayer with micro transactions and dumb downed RPG elements, no side quests, reduced converstation wheel, photoshoped images of major characters..... oh wait.... that sounds like another game I've played 

[Hexley UK]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

Just because lots of game devs do it doesn't make it ok. Casey made the "No A, B, C endings" statement when the game had already gone gold and he knew what he was saying was a lie.

People made a huge fuss because they loved ME so much that what Bioware did was unforgivable to alot of them. It's a testament to how good ME1 and 2 were that people were so upset about how the ending (and other aspects of ME3) were treated.

As for the EC I refuse to thank BiowEAre for putting chocolate sprinkles on a dog turd....it's still a dog turd either way.

[Morty Smith]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

With all the pretextual critical acclaim that was tossed around as a counter-argument to anyone who had disliked the ending, I´m sure the need for any "thank you" was saturated.

Modifié par Kroitz, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:35 .

[TurianRebel212]

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

Just because lots of game devs do it doesn't make it ok. Casey made the "No A, B, C endings" statement when the game had already gone gold and he knew what he was saying was a lie.

People made a huge fuss because they loved ME so much that what Bioware did was unforgivable to alot of them. It's a testament to how good ME1 and 2 were that people were so upset about how the ending (and other aspects of ME3) were treated.

As for the EC I refuse to thank BiowEAre for putting chocolate sprinkles on a dog turd....it's still a dog turd either way.

Oh c'mon homeslice. You know you liked the red, green and blue sprinkles on your turd .. 
And the very intimate moment between shep and harby. And the moment during the synthesis option when the husk attacking the soldier realizes its all okay and as a major " I like Art" moment and derps at the player. 

[Iakus]

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Raid his liquor cabinet.?

Or better yet.  Eat his cereal 

[Eterna]

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

Modifié par Eterna5, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:37 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

You act like BioWare was doing us a favor. I'm glad that they did make the EC, as it is much better than the original endings (not quite there, but better), but let's not act like we owe them for it. They knew that if they didn't do something, that they would a huge chunk of their fanbase. 

I paid $60 for a product and expected to be satisfied. I, as a paying customer, have a right to expect a quality product. BioWare needs people to buy their products, not the other way around. Afterall, I don't need them to pay my bills. They need us though.

I'm not saying you guys owe them anything. You were the ones acting like they owed you even after the Extended Cut and Ray Muzyka's apology to the fans.

Yes, you paid $60 for the product, but there is never a guarantee that you will be satisfied with it. No game developer could put on the box "satisfaction guaranteed!" As a paying customer, you have the right to return the product with a proof of purchase if you are not satisfied. You have no right to demand new and original content be created just because you aren't happy with what's on the disc.

[TurianRebel212]

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Raid his liquor cabinet.?

Or better yet.  Eat his cereal 

Oh yes Kai Leng. The gift the keeps on giving. :lol:

[Iakus]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

IF EC actually addressed any of the problems I had with the game, I'd say so.  But as it is, all EC really does for me is provide the raw materials MEHEM needed to exist.

Free download?  Sure, and I got what I paid for.

[Hexley UK]

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

War asset NOT obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 249!

[ssltrain]

I posted this in the other thread and then saw this one, so it seems more approproate here. Anyway...

I'm starting to suspect that Hale was speaking to people other than players/fans. She suggests in a follow up tweet (below) that she was, in fact, not referring to players. 

Maybe her tweet was aimed at other voice actors? Her original tweet was rather cryptic, so we have no way of knowing if it's even ME-related. Maybe it's related to Fuse or one of her other projects. If it's ME-related, then it'd make me wonder if some serious sh!t happens that maybe caught some of the other voice actors off guard. Who knows? All we have are her cryptic tweets and... speculations. 

https://mobile.twitt...886033920151553
[Quote]Joao Bertoncini
@jhaletweets Can you clarify which "PEOPLE" you're talking to? I have the feeling it's not for the players.6:06pm - 22 Jan 13

Jennifer Hale
@JALBertoncini 

true

8:01pm - 22 Jan 13[/quote]
[/quote]

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...
Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

Along the way shut down 7 Cerberus death camps, fight a Cerberus commander with a suspiciously German accent and find out once and for all that TiM tortures puppies.

[Hexley UK]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

You act like BioWare was doing us a favor. I'm glad that they did make the EC, as it is much better than the original endings (not quite there, but better), but let's not act like we owe them for it. They knew that if they didn't do something, that they would a huge chunk of their fanbase. 

I paid $60 for a product and expected to be satisfied. I, as a paying customer, have a right to expect a quality product. BioWare needs people to buy their products, not the other way around. Afterall, I don't need them to pay my bills. They need us though.

I'm not saying you guys owe them anything. You were the ones acting like they owed you even after the Extended Cut and Ray Muzyka's apology to the fans.

Yes, you paid $60 for the product, but there is never a guarantee that you will be satisfied with it. No game developer could put on the box "satisfaction guaranteed!" As a paying customer, you have the right to return the product with a proof of purchase if you are not satisfied. You have no right to demand new and original content be created just because you aren't happy with what's on the disc.

Wrong I have every right to demand they fix it....just as they have the right to ignore my demands and therefore not get my money in the future...ever.

Saying you don't have the right to voice an opinion is just daft.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:41 .

[TurianRebel212]

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

Liara's V-card is worth at least 1,000 EMS points and a new shotgun.