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[EpicBoot2daFace]

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

You act like BioWare was doing us a favor. I'm glad that they did make the EC, as it is much better than the original endings (not quite there, but better), but let's not act like we owe them for it. They knew that if they didn't do something, that they would a huge chunk of their fanbase. 

I paid $60 for a product and expected to be satisfied. I, as a paying customer, have a right to expect a quality product. BioWare needs people to buy their products, not the other way around. Afterall, I don't need them to pay my bills. They need us though.

I'm not saying you guys owe them anything. You were the ones acting like they owed you even after the Extended Cut and Ray Muzyka's apology to the fans.

Yes, you paid $60 for the product, but there is never a guarantee that you will be satisfied with it. No game developer could put on the box "satisfaction guaranteed!" As a paying customer, you have the right to return the product with a proof of purchase if you are not satisfied. You have no right to demand new and original content be created just because you aren't happy with what's on the disc.

Wrong I have every right to demand they fix it....just as they have the right to ignore my demands and therefore not get my money in the future...ever.

Saying you don't have the right to voice an opinion is just daft.

There's a difference between voicing an opinion (I didn't like the ending because this, this, and this...) and demanding new content be created because you aren't happy.

[Eterna]

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

War asset NOT obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 249!

Liara: "Shepard, this chair. It was made out of Reaper tech and dead children!"
Shepard: "This thing is an abomination!"
Liara: "What are you going to do? We need this chair"
Shepard: "No, we don't, we'll find another way. No chair is worth giving up our hummanity, lets blow it to hell!"

[PainCakesx]

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

[3DandBeyond]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

Halo 2 and Mass Effect are completly different games. If you don't get that. Then you don't get ME or get why people are upset. 

And what you were told would be on the disk was not, but many could not even get their money back if they wanted to.  And then, how do you put a price on a story that then has no ending.  You were promised one thing and got something else, and what you were told you would not get is exactly what you got.  Only in the gaming industry is this OK with any segment of buyers.  If I bought a chocolate cupcake and it tasted like lemon but I was told it was chocolate, I would complain.  If I get the wrong order at McDonald's I complain and I don't think I'm alone.  I seriously doubt that people that are saying, "it's a game, so what" would say "I wanted fries and got carrots, so what".

It's also a problem when you are talking about something that exists in a series of stories, expecially the last.  Stories set up a story world and have internal promises.  If you say clowns are evil, then they always are in your stories or you need a damn good reason for them not being evil.  And you must tie it all together at the end.  Books do that or book critics are hard on them and fans get mad and don't buy.  If game devs want to create art then they damn well need to create art and know what that means.  Writers must adhere to the craft and the art.

[Mcfly616]

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Actions often have bigger impacts. If Bioware continued to exaggerate and make false promises then the gaming community would pick up on this and stop buying their games. You know how capitalism works so I'm not gonna bother being professorial about it. Bioware doesn't seem to be a "short-term profit" type of company so I doubt they'll continue down this road.

I'm already predicting difficulties in convincing people to preorder the next few Bioware games.

Frankly I'm shocked they're seriously going to try and make another Mass Effect game so soon.  Given how many people are still smarting over this one.

A small (yet, very loud) group of disgruntled customers who hated the ending so much that they resorted to online petitions and cupcakes. The majority loved ME3 despite the disappointing ending. Mass Effect 4 will probably sell more than ME3, given that it will be on new hardware and people want more Mass Effect in general.

Source please as all the numbers and info I have seen point to the exact opposite of this.

If your gonna spew utter BS at least try to fake some facts.

Or do you live in opposite world?

Source please on the numbers that prove the "exact opposite"?

[DistantUtopia]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Nothing but respect for Jen Hale, however I used to trust the writers. They need to earn that back before I do so again.

I used to trust the writers too.  Then I took an ending to the knee.

I'm sorry!  I couldn't resist!

[3DandBeyond]

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

Well said.  I seriously would rather be here enjoying the game and discussing the different ways I played it rather than asking them to change their minds and make a good ending.

[Kel Riever]

DistantUtopia wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Nothing but respect for Jen Hale, however I used to trust the writers. They need to earn that back before I do so again.

I used to trust the writers too.  Then I took an ending to the knee.

I'm sorry!  I couldn't resist!

[Hexley UK]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

Most people can't be bothered to participate in online petitions. Using that to claim that most people liked the endings is not a good way to go about it.

I never said most people liked the endings. I think most people who played the game didn't like the endings but didn't make a huge fuss over it. As a customer, you pay for what's on the disc. You got exactly that. Even if you don't like some part of it, that was the deal.

I didn't like how Halo 2 ended, I thought it was terrible. But I didn't go on a forum and sign petitions demanding that Bungie change the ending. I got what I paid for, despite me not liking a certain part of it.

So you don't take offense at blatantly being lied to.....that's nice of you...alot of us are less forgiving.

Casy Hudson's comments about the ending before the game was released? Yeah, that was bull**** and he lied about it, and people were right to call him out on it. But he's not the first to do that. Peter Molyneux is famous for lying about features in his games. It doens't make it right, but it happens.

I don't think people should take it so personally, though. Yeah, the ending was **** and I think most people would agree with that. But to make such a huge fuss over it... I don't know. It just doesn't sit well with me.

And Bioware didn't have to make the Extended Cut. They could have just said simply said no. And even if you didn't like what was in the Extended Cut, you could at least say thanks for trying to make it better. It was free download for everyone.

You act like BioWare was doing us a favor. I'm glad that they did make the EC, as it is much better than the original endings (not quite there, but better), but let's not act like we owe them for it. They knew that if they didn't do something, that they would a huge chunk of their fanbase. 

I paid $60 for a product and expected to be satisfied. I, as a paying customer, have a right to expect a quality product. BioWare needs people to buy their products, not the other way around. Afterall, I don't need them to pay my bills. They need us though.

I'm not saying you guys owe them anything. You were the ones acting like they owed you even after the Extended Cut and Ray Muzyka's apology to the fans.

Yes, you paid $60 for the product, but there is never a guarantee that you will be satisfied with it. No game developer could put on the box "satisfaction guaranteed!" As a paying customer, you have the right to return the product with a proof of purchase if you are not satisfied. You have no right to demand new and original content be created just because you aren't happy with what's on the disc.

Wrong I have every right to demand they fix it....just as they have the right to ignore my demands and therefore not get my money in the future...ever.

Saying you don't have the right to voice an opinion is just daft.

There's a difference between voicing an opinion (I didn't like the ending because this, this, and this...) and demanding new content be created because you aren't happy.

There is no difference, I have every right to do either.....and they have every right to ignore me.

Same way as if i had bought say a toaster and then decided to take it back to the store. I have every right to ask for a refund or replacement and the store has every right to agree with my demands or tell me to sod off.

I would however be very unlikely to shop at that store ever again if my demands are refused.

So it's down to the store, agree to my demands or lose a customer....their choice.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:51 .

[PainCakesx]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Actions often have bigger impacts. If Bioware continued to exaggerate and make false promises then the gaming community would pick up on this and stop buying their games. You know how capitalism works so I'm not gonna bother being professorial about it. Bioware doesn't seem to be a "short-term profit" type of company so I doubt they'll continue down this road.

I'm already predicting difficulties in convincing people to preorder the next few Bioware games.

Frankly I'm shocked they're seriously going to try and make another Mass Effect game so soon.  Given how many people are still smarting over this one.

A small (yet, very loud) group of disgruntled customers who hated the ending so much that they resorted to online petitions and cupcakes. The majority loved ME3 despite the disappointing ending. Mass Effect 4 will probably sell more than ME3, given that it will be on new hardware and people want more Mass Effect in general.

Source please as all the numbers and info I have seen point to the exact opposite of this.

If your gonna spew utter BS at least try to fake some facts.

Or do you live in opposite world?

Source please on the numbers that prove the "exact opposite"?

A poll with 80,000 votes stating that 91% were dissatisfied with the ending. You can claim that this is selective sampling, but 91% is a overwhelming majority with a large number of votes. There would have to be a MOE of +/- 40% for this poll to mean anything else. 

[EpicBoot2daFace]

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

But everyone has different expectations and different things that they would like changed. Knowing BSN, they would look for the most minute detail that isn't quite right and tear it apart, say how terrible Bioware is and go on and on about it  for months. How can any company satify this kind of fanbase?

[Hexley UK]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Actions often have bigger impacts. If Bioware continued to exaggerate and make false promises then the gaming community would pick up on this and stop buying their games. You know how capitalism works so I'm not gonna bother being professorial about it. Bioware doesn't seem to be a "short-term profit" type of company so I doubt they'll continue down this road.

I'm already predicting difficulties in convincing people to preorder the next few Bioware games.

Frankly I'm shocked they're seriously going to try and make another Mass Effect game so soon.  Given how many people are still smarting over this one.

A small (yet, very loud) group of disgruntled customers who hated the ending so much that they resorted to online petitions and cupcakes. The majority loved ME3 despite the disappointing ending. Mass Effect 4 will probably sell more than ME3, given that it will be on new hardware and people want more Mass Effect in general.

Source please as all the numbers and info I have seen point to the exact opposite of this.

If your gonna spew utter BS at least try to fake some facts.

Or do you live in opposite world?

Source please on the numbers that prove the "exact opposite"?

See my later posts and then come back....I can't be bothered to post it all again.

[Hexley UK]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

But everyone has different expectations and different things that they would like changed. Knowing BSN, they would look for the most minute detail that isn't quite right and tear it apart, say how terrible Bioware is and go on and on about it  for months. How can any company satify this kind of fanbase?

Yes much better to do absolutely nothing and listen to the majority of whats left of your fanbase go on about it for almost a year so far........

[CosmicGnosis]

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

War asset NOT obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 249!

Liara: "Shepard, this chair. It was made out of Reaper tech and dead children!"
Shepard: "This thing is an abomination!"
Liara: "What are you going to do? We need this chair"
Shepard: "No, we don't, we'll find another way. No chair is worth giving up our hummanity, lets blow it to hell!"

Amazing.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Watch it be about Cerberus.

Okay I'll bite. Just how would it be about Cerberus? 

Find TIM's chair? 

Admiral Hackett: "Shepard, we've heard rumors from Alliance operatives that the Illusive Man is keeping an object of great importance on a remote base beyond the Omega 4 Relay!"

Shepard: "What is it sir?"

Admiral Hackett: "His chair commander, it is made with unique alloys that would be absolutely crucial to the construction of the crucible."

Shepard "Then we need that chair!"

Liara: "Shepard, I would like to accompany you on this mission. I feel once again compelled to be forced upon you!"

War Asset obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 250!
War Asset Obtained: Liara's Virginity -773

War asset NOT obtained: The Illusives Mans chair- 249!

Liara: "Shepard, this chair. It was made out of Reaper tech and dead children!"
Shepard: "This thing is an abomination!"
Liara: "What are you going to do? We need this chair"
Shepard: "No, we don't, we'll find another way. No chair is worth giving up our hummanity, lets blow it to hell!"

Amazing.

Bioware, hire this person.

[PainCakesx]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

But everyone has different expectations and different things that they would like changed. Knowing BSN, they would look for the most minute detail that isn't quite right and tear it apart, say how terrible Bioware is and go on and on about it  for months. How can any company satify this kind of fanbase?

I'm not expecting to be 110% satisifed with the ending. But as it stands, there are far too may loose ends and a general lack of closure to be satisfied. The ending would fit just fine as the ending of a 1st or 2nd game in a trilogy, but not the 3rd. There has been plenty of discussion as to what people want. Will some people be dissatisfied? Sure, but if they are listening to what people want, which they claim to, then they should have more than a rough idea as to what would satisfy most people. 

Modifié par PainCakesx, 23 janvier 2013 - 02:59 .

[Hexley UK]

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

But everyone has different expectations and different things that they would like changed. Knowing BSN, they would look for the most minute detail that isn't quite right and tear it apart, say how terrible Bioware is and go on and on about it  for months. How can any company satify this kind of fanbase?

I'm not expecting to be 110% satisifed with the ending. But as it stands, there are far too may loose ends and a general lack of closure to be satisfied. The ending would fit just fine as the ending of a 1st or 2nd game in a trilogy, but not the 3rd. There has been plenty of discussion as to what people want. Will some people be dissatisfied? Sure, but if they are listening to what people want, which they claim to, then they should have more than a rough idea as to what would satisfy most people. 

Which they had before the EC was even made and yet chose to completely ignore for the most part.

The official "Ending feedback" thread was over 800 pages long alone.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 23 janvier 2013 - 03:10 .

[fiendishchicken]

Once more with feeling:

I have no hope for this DLC. I have literally no expectation for anything good to come from it. In my opinion, the only good SP DLC for ME3 has been From Ashes.

The only expectation I have is that it will somehow manage to be even worse than I thought.

I would absolutely love for it to be the greatest thing ever. I wished the same with the other DLC's. It's Mass Effect. Of course I want the best for it.

But I want a lot of things I know I'll never have. A major motion picture studio, a Led Zeppelin reunion, a date and relationship with Yvonne Strahovski.

And a decent ending to Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 23 janvier 2013 - 03:07 .

[T41rdEye]

We don't want a perfect ending. As bioware has said repeatedly, you can't please everyone. What we want is a satisfying ending that makes sense within the established lore of the previous games.

We don't require rainbows and lollipops. We just want an ending that MAKES SENSE in the context of Mass Effect. An ending that raises more questions than it answers is what we got, which ironically is exactly what BW said wouldn't happen. This is merely one example of the blatant lies told pre-release.

[Mcfly616]

Hexley UK wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Actions often have bigger impacts. If Bioware continued to exaggerate and make false promises then the gaming community would pick up on this and stop buying their games. You know how capitalism works so I'm not gonna bother being professorial about it. Bioware doesn't seem to be a "short-term profit" type of company so I doubt they'll continue down this road.

I'm already predicting difficulties in convincing people to preorder the next few Bioware games.

Frankly I'm shocked they're seriously going to try and make another Mass Effect game so soon.  Given how many people are still smarting over this one.

A small (yet, very loud) group of disgruntled customers who hated the ending so much that they resorted to online petitions and cupcakes. The majority loved ME3 despite the disappointing ending. Mass Effect 4 will probably sell more than ME3, given that it will be on new hardware and people want more Mass Effect in general.

Source please as all the numbers and info I have seen point to the exact opposite of this.

If your gonna spew utter BS at least try to fake some facts.

Or do you live in opposite world?

Source please on the numbers that prove the "exact opposite"?

See my later posts and then come back....I can't be bothered to post it all again.

no need. There's no poll of every person that purchased the game. Therefore, there's no way to prove what you stated....

[MegaSovereign]

Those pyramids make the ancient Egyptians real jealous.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

PainCakesx wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I'm not saying they have to do anything. It's their decision as to whether or not they want to address the endings or not.

I, as well as others here, have simply laid out what would allow us to be satisfied again. I'm not hating on BioWare, I genuinely want to be satisfied with the trilogy and devote my full anticipation for the next game. I want this to be post-ending DLC because I want to like the ending.

If they could do that, I and many here would be more than willing to bury the hatchet. As it stands now, they can choose to or choose not to. Most likely they won't, and I'll respond as any consumer can, and not purchase the DLC. That's not because I hate BioWare, but simply because such a DLC would bear little interest to me.

Given that they are a company who's goal is to maximize their profits, what people want and are willing to pay for should be of upmost concern to them. This is why it's confusing to me and others why they refuse to put out the content that people are practically begging for. And they're likely losing out on a lot of money for their refusal as well.

But everyone has different expectations and different things that they would like changed. Knowing BSN, they would look for the most minute detail that isn't quite right and tear it apart, say how terrible Bioware is and go on and on about it  for months. How can any company satify this kind of fanbase?

I'm not expecting to be 110% satisifed with the ending. But as it stands, there are far too may loose ends and a general lack of closure to be satisfied. The ending would fit just fine as the ending of a 1st or 2nd game in a trilogy, but not the 3rd. There has been plenty of discussion as to what people want. Will some people be dissatisfied? Sure, but if they are listening to what people want, which they claim to, then they should have more than a rough idea as to what would satisfy most people. 

Perhaps you aren't, but there are a lot of people who demand that it be perfect, all the way down to their own personal preferences. I think the Extended Cut, whether you liked it or not, was a nice gesture from Bioware.

[Cobretti ftw]

Well.. i dont believe in it.

Plus

Meer>> Hale


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[Hexley UK]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Actions often have bigger impacts. If Bioware continued to exaggerate and make false promises then the gaming community would pick up on this and stop buying their games. You know how capitalism works so I'm not gonna bother being professorial about it. Bioware doesn't seem to be a "short-term profit" type of company so I doubt they'll continue down this road.

I'm already predicting difficulties in convincing people to preorder the next few Bioware games.

Frankly I'm shocked they're seriously going to try and make another Mass Effect game so soon.  Given how many people are still smarting over this one.

A small (yet, very loud) group of disgruntled customers who hated the ending so much that they resorted to online petitions and cupcakes. The majority loved ME3 despite the disappointing ending. Mass Effect 4 will probably sell more than ME3, given that it will be on new hardware and people want more Mass Effect in general.

Source please as all the numbers and info I have seen point to the exact opposite of this.

If your gonna spew utter BS at least try to fake some facts.

Or do you live in opposite world?

Source please on the numbers that prove the "exact opposite"?

See my later posts and then come back....I can't be bothered to post it all again.

no need. There's no poll of every person that purchased the game. Therefore, there's no way to prove what you stated....

There's no way to prove 100% no...but there are good indicators and evidence to support my stance.

Care to provide ANY substantial evidence to the contrary?

Thought not.......

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Cobretti ftw wrote...

Well.. i dont believe in it.

Plus

Meer>> Hale


lol

Chobot > all.