Thanks for this link, I've wondered at the link between Hawke and the Amell Warden and that tree helps to visualize. Hawke and Amell Warden are 2nd CousinsSideria wrote...
We can choose the protagonist origin, maybe it will be a Amell choice... but if we look at the family tree, it seems diffilcult to have one more Amell.
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Well, there's always the bastard option.Sideria wrote...
We can choose the protagonist origin, maybe it will be a Amell choice... but if we look at the family tree, it seems diffilcult to have one more Amell.
Cause most of the Amells are Mages at the rebelling circles and only Gamlen and his daughter are probably the only living Amells who are not Mages and God knows that they're clueless about where The Warden and Hawke isWithidread wrote...
Here's another thought: if the chantry seekers are seeking The Warden or Hawke for whatever reason they're seeking them, can't find either, and both The Warden and Hawke are part of the Amell family, why WOULDN'T they look at the REST of the Amells? With two VERY powerful mages originating from the same generation of the same family, prudence would almost DEMAND the chantry take an interest in the entire family.
Given the effort put into keeping tabs on mages once in the circle, Amell mages in the circle would be relatively accessible to the chantry when compared to an unknown apostate. Also, statistically, rebellions never comprise 100% of a population, so it would not be far-fetched for a given mage in the circle seek neutrality or to side with the chantry. But that's getting into speculation about PCs motive, which we really know almost nothing about.74 Wrex wrote...
Cause most of the Amells are Mages at the rebelling circles and only Gamlen and his daughter are probably the only living Amells who are not Mages and God knows that they're clueless about where The Warden and Hawke isWithidread wrote...
Here's another thought: if the chantry seekers are seeking The Warden or Hawke for whatever reason they're seeking them, can't find either, and both The Warden and Hawke are part of the Amell family, why WOULDN'T they look at the REST of the Amells? With two VERY powerful mages originating from the same generation of the same family, prudence would almost DEMAND the chantry take an interest in the entire family.
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I would love to play an elf as well, and of the original Origin stories, I felt the CE was the most compelling. However, it has already been announced that DA:I will have a human protagonist.Faerunner wrote...
I'm so tired of the Amells. There are other amazing families in Thedas, many of whom showed up in various DA Origins. Why not give them a chance to shine? Heck, the CE Tabris line turned out a fair amount of rebels and leaders: Adaia, Shianni, the Warden, even Soris when he has to be. Since elves tend to come from extensive families expanding a couple of alienages, I would love to see another relative of Adaia pop up in the future.
Faerunner wrote...
Besides, when you look closely, the Amells are not a very good family. This was the same family that produced Leandra: weak, whiny, useless, selfish, self-entitled, condescending, co-dependent little leech. Gamlen: bitter, spiteful, selfish, self-entitled, drunken, gambling, racist, sexist, thieving, etc. Leandra and Gamlen's parents: who screwed up both of their children by spoiling and favoring one so thoroughly that she thinks the world owes her whatever she wants just for existing, and neglecting the other so thoroughly that he became a voracious drunk and spendthrift to make up for the love and approval he could never get. Carver: also bitter, spiteful, selfish, self-entitled, whiny, petty, passive-agree. Bethany is arguably a self-righteous prig who doesn't appreciate all that her family sacrifices to keep her safe. Then there's Revka, who's great accomplishment in life was breeding a hoard of mage children that all ended up in the Circle, one of whom MIGHT be one of many potential candidates to save the world, if circumstances align. (I.e. he or she gets his or her ass saved by Duncan and Flemeth.)
If you notice, the same can be said of every Origin in DA:O. None of them had any other choice but to accept Duncan's rescue, and Flemeth's by extension.Faerunner wrote...
The Warden Amell and Champion Hawke only survived getting offed in the beginning of each game is because they got rescued by Flemeth (and Duncan). Having the good luck to be chosen by the player--er, at the right place at the right time to be rescued doesn't make their blood inherently more badass or amazing than other bloodlines, it just means they were in the right place at the right time in those situations. Now I implore the writers to drop the Amells and give that role to other people from other bloodlines.
Faerunner wrote...
I'm so tired of the Amells. There are other amazing families in Thedas, many of whom showed up in various DA Origins. Why not give them a chance to shine? Heck, the CE Tabris line turned out a fair amount of rebels and leaders: Adaia, Shianni, the Warden, even Soris when he has to be. Since elves tend to come from extensive families expanding a couple of alienages, I would love to see another relative of Adaia pop up in the future.
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Withidread wrote...
Here's another thought: if the chantry seekers are seeking The Warden or Hawke for whatever reason they're seeking them, can't find either, and both The Warden and Hawke are part of the Amell family, why WOULDN'T they look at the REST of the Amells? With two VERY powerful mages originating from the same generation of the same family, prudence would almost DEMAND the chantry take an interest in the entire family.
arakat wrote...
I would probably die of happiness if I heard the name Tabris mentioned in DA:I.
Modifié par Wulfram, 24 janvier 2013 - 03:12 .
Lord Aesir wrote...
I'm not sure how Brosca could even be brought up.
True, but weren't the Broscas constrained to the protagonist, Rica, and their mother? They seemed rather unwillingly tied to the Carta at that.Wulfram wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
I'm not sure how Brosca could even be brought up.
The Carta gets about
Faerunner wrote...
I'm so tired of the Amells. There are other amazing families in Thedas, many of whom showed up in various DA Origins. Why not give them a chance to shine? Heck, the CE Tabris line turned out a fair amount of rebels and leaders: Adaia, Shianni, the Warden, even Soris when he has to be. Since elves tend to come from extensive families expanding a couple of alienages, I would love to see another relative of Adaia pop up in the future.
Faerunner wrote...
Besides, when you look closely, the Amells are not a very good family. This was the same family that produced Leandra: weak, whiny, useless, selfish, self-entitled, condescending, co-dependent little leech. Gamlen: bitter, spiteful, selfish, self-entitled, drunken, gambling, racist, sexist, thieving, etc. Leandra and Gamlen's parents: who screwed up both of their children by spoiling and favoring one so thoroughly that she thinks the world owes her whatever she wants just for existing, and neglecting the other so thoroughly that he became a voracious drunk and spendthrift to make up for the love and approval he could never get. Carver: also bitter, spiteful, selfish, self-entitled, whiny, petty, passive-agree. Bethany is arguably a self-righteous prig who doesn't appreciate all that her family sacrifices to keep her safe. Then there's Revka, who's great accomplishment in life was breeding a hoard of mage children that all ended up in the Circle, one of whom MIGHT be one of many potential candidates to save the world, if circumstances align. (I.e. he or she gets his or her ass saved by Duncan and Flemeth.)
Faerunner wrote...
The Warden Amell and Champion Hawke only survived getting offed in the beginning of each game is because they got rescued by Flemeth (and Duncan). Having the good luck to be chosen by the player--er, at the right place at the right time to be rescued doesn't make their blood inherently more badass or amazing than other bloodlines, it just means they were in the right place at the right time in those situations. Now I implore the writers to drop the Amells and give that role to other people from other bloodlines.
My hope is that backgrounds are largely detached from class, though perhaps some tailoring within a background to nake it work better for mages.SgtElias wrote...
My Warden was an Amell, and I enjoyed knowing that she and my Mage!Hawke were connected by blood, even if only distantly. I'd love an option for an Amell background, but it seems unlikely.
Although, it'd be pretty funny if an Amell background was available for Dragon Age 3, but only for a non-mage Inquisitor. Oh, snap!
arakat wrote...
Faerunner wrote...
I'm so tired of the Amells. There are other amazing families in Thedas, many of whom showed up in various DA Origins. Why not give them a chance to shine? Heck, the CE Tabris line turned out a fair amount of rebels and leaders: Adaia, Shianni, the Warden, even Soris when he has to be. Since elves tend to come from extensive families expanding a couple of alienages, I would love to see another relative of Adaia pop up in the future.
I would probably die of happiness if I heard the name Tabris mentioned in DA:I.
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Lord Aesir wrote...
Perhaps Surana will get a mention? To be honest I don't feel like Cousland needs a mentions since the familial ties of that Origin arguably have the most relevance of the Origins in DA:O. So lets give the rest a chance. Amell and Mahariel got the most out of DA2 so they don't need much. Aeducan is nearly as involved in Origins as Cousland if constrained solely to the fate of Orzammar. That leaves Surana, Tabris, and Brosca. Tabris and Surana seem most likely as they could have relatives in distant alienages. I'm not sure how Brosca could even be brought up.
Surana might have distant kin as well..? I'd like to know more about Brosca as well, and Aeducan seems likely if Kal Sharok comes up in DA:I. I believe DN's father King Endrin was responsible for reestablishing such ties as were possible with them, in recent memory.
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