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[Shinnyshin]

tonilynn17 wrote...

"score pigs" are my exception, too, altho your nickname for them is much nicer than mine

I too am wondering what exactly a "score pig" is.  I mean, what is the associated behavior that is so bad that you consider not rezzing them?

[SoulGuard03]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

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At what point do you say enough is enough?

If the PUG keeps going down and makes no effort to move-fight-get into cover... I stop reviving them. I have no sympathy for people who go AFK without at least telling me over the mic "I have a phone call-baby-laundry-beer spill-somone at the door, BRB." 

But if the person is just having a bad game... and happen to aggro all the enemy on the map, and get taken down ruthlessly, I'll tend the keep on getting them up. But they have to be an active player and not on the far side of the map trying to solo.

[Hretha]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

frudi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Not sure, if I revive them into a sync-kill I guess.

I actually did this yesterday, I lol'd but kinda felt bad afterwards!:innocent:

That's why you should pull out the rocket launcher after finishing one of those risky revives

Yeah I could have but yunno it was an early wave and I wanted to see if he/she could have avoided that Atlas crush for science!

All's fair in science!  I think you need more data, tho...  you'll have to recreate the conditions and try a few more times to get a definitive answer....

[CrimsonN7]

tonilynn17 wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

frudi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Not sure, if I revive them into a sync-kill I guess.

I actually did this yesterday, I lol'd but kinda felt bad afterwards!:innocent:

That's why you should pull out the rocket launcher after finishing one of those risky revives

Yeah I could have but yunno it was an early wave and I wanted to see if he/she could have avoided that Atlas crush for science!

All's fair in science!  I think you need more data, tho...  you'll have to recreate the conditions and try a few more times to get a definitive answer....

Indeed, this happens when I PUG, I should PUG MOAR often, to get samples of course!

[Heldarion]

Reviving teammates in PUGs usually doesn't only bring down the score but the entire team. What's the use when they're dead in a matter of seconds again? Often I'll just let the dead teammates bleed out and finish the wave myself. Way less risky.

Modifié par Heldarion, 23 janvier 2013 - 03:30 .

[SoulGuard03]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
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What really makes me draw the line is that people who are level 20 are crazy about getting the most XP.

Ohhhh... yes!! Seriously... dafuq is up with that? 
You're a level 20 and your raging about getting kills+XPbonus? SMH.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

the term Meatbags comes to mind... ty HK-47

[Hretha]

Shinnyshin wrote...

tonilynn17 wrote...

"score pigs" are my exception, too, altho your nickname for them is much nicer than mine

I too am wondering what exactly a "score pig" is.  I mean, what is the associated behavior that is so bad that you consider not rezzing them?

Generally, players who won't help with a hack or an escort; instead, they run across the map (too far away to be helpful, I might add) while you're stuck in the hack or escort watching the timer creep by... surrounded by banshees and the like.  No excuses; I sit in the hacks and follow the drones, whether I'm a sniper or a vanguard.  It's not that long to stay put and help the team, especially if everyone does it. 

[Hretha]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

tonilynn17 wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

frudi wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Not sure, if I revive them into a sync-kill I guess.

I actually did this yesterday, I lol'd but kinda felt bad afterwards!:innocent:

That's why you should pull out the rocket launcher after finishing one of those risky revives

Yeah I could have but yunno it was an early wave and I wanted to see if he/she could have avoided that Atlas crush for science!

All's fair in science!  I think you need more data, tho...  you'll have to recreate the conditions and try a few more times to get a definitive answer....

Indeed, this happens when I PUG, I should PUG MOAR often, to get samples of course!

For science, of course...  And while your at it, you should use those guinea pigs... errr... pugs... to study that reactor core on Firebase Reactor... something fishy going on there...

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Maybe, but I don't much care about score, so I do it anyway.

[Deerber]

I always revive if it's safe to do so. Even if it's the 800th time I do it to the same guy. So long as it's safe to do so, I'll do it.

[thatdamnlobster]

if surrounded by three enemies and they are hovering, taking them out is priority, if he diesbofore that happens oh well, it does me no good with both of us dead

[Beerfish]

Not sure about the score but I do know that I have to be more strict as far as when to attempt a rescue. I've gone back to my ways of taking risks to raise people at times and have been downed and had to sit out waves as a result.

[Strongwater]

As someone who likes to play squishy characters and goes down an awful lot, especially when vanguards won't charge, I say USE YOUR DAMN MIC.

Okay, I know not everyone has one (and god knows I've played enough in the office after hours/have had enough issues with mine to understand why someone wouldn't use it). But, if you have one and you've gone down, the least you can do is be like "hey guys, I have (a med gel cap of two/no problem if you can't revive me, there's a crap ton of people over here/A TURRET ON ME/a pyro hellbent on stomping me)". Then, people can make the decision of whether or not to run over there and rez you with all the relevant details, and it's obvious that you, y'know, care about the game.

Otherwise, on behalf of all the middling players who don't play tanks, I apologize for how much I seem to go down, and if you let me bleed out I will never be offended (:

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I'd normally fight my way to get a revive, but it does get boring after a while if the same person spends more time down than contributing.

I did have a game I still feel guilty about where on a wave 10 device objective, my teammates kept kiting banshees to my position on the first device. The same thing happened on the second, so I abandoned the area and they all got downed by a bunch of brutes and banshees. I could've cleared the area with a missile and revived them, but felt it would be easier to solo the rest of the devices.

I did succeed in the end, but it definitely wasn't my proudest moment.

[Grinch57]

My attitude is probably an amalgam of several posts.

I revive if I can, if it is reasonably safe to do so, but I try to clear the area first.

A teammate that is trying, but goes down repeatedly, is a higher priority than someone on the other side of the map, who ignores objectives and is being a "score pig" (I like that term).

There are times when I run away from a mess, then finish a wave solo. I consider that a case of having to be cruel to be kind.

I realize OP is trolling about score, I could give a rats about score. Carrying the pizza drops my score, but I race to do it (unless I'm a Destroyer, then I race to provide top cover). I consider score a red herring, other than the issue of "score pigs," that part of scoring is the only bit I ever consider.

[NuclearTech76]

I just see a lot of good players in every other facet of the game, go into a bad situation to revive some moron. The team then gets screwed because you're down two players instead of one.

[Frraksurred]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Seriously though have you ever been in those matches where a person goes down so much that you finally decide the time spent reviving them would be better spent killing enemies? I almost always try to revive whenever safe but recently I've had some unfortunate PUGs where I hit 15 revives at around wave 4. I still usually try to revive because it helps having a "meat decoy" on the field but at what point should I draw the line.  It's no fun having to spend most of a game reviving someone.

At what point do you say enough is enough?

I'll revive over score any day, personally I enjoy teamwork over score and helping out new playerys... however, at the point you're talking about I'd just be enabling that player to continue using faulty stradegy.  I'll rebuff them as politely as I can and suggest a better tactic.  Most don't choose to employ enough maturity to take constructive criticism and will just leave, but a few will listen and  become better players.

Modifié par Frraksurred, 23 janvier 2013 - 06:55 .

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

In pugs, I'll revive when I can. Can always use more meatshields, lol. In my last gold pug before I went to sleep last night, I was playing medic while dishing out damage.

[MetalDeggial]

I love me some meat decoys, so yeah, I go revive them for as long as my meat decoy's corpse lies within a reasonable distance.

If they go Rambo on Vancouver, Rio or the like, they can bleed out for all I care.