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[Iakus]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Oh and speak for yourself pal! Many dislike MEHEM, and not all of them are ending lovers or apologists. The lack of creativity in that convectional, pew-pew type of victory and hugging it all up with the LI in the end is absurd. This is a dark sci-fi (unfortunately ME2's soap operaish tendecies had a huge effect on people, but it is not a romantic flick + there are plenty of emotional character moments throughout ME3). 

And if both options had been provided by biowar from the start, you could have your dark "bittersweet" ending and we could have had our "pew-pew victory" as you so condescendingly call it, and there'd be a lot less arguing on the BSN.

At least in regards to endings.

But no.  It's gotta be all dark all the time.  Because there's no way anyone roleplayed a Shepard interested in having a life outside the Reaper War, right?

[StElmo]

I don't want a new ending, I want more explanation for the current endings, after the EC I still have questions. Thats all

[wright1978]

StElmo wrote...

I don't want a new ending, I want more explanation for the current endings, after the EC I still have questions. Thats all

Well i want clarification and closure to actually be evenly distributed across endings, rather than still clinging to lame ambiguity(yeah that scene) for one ending.

Ideally i'd want the catalyst completely stripped out and the endings built into the narrative of the story. That's unlikely at this point. At the very least destroy choice needs to be removed from catalyst and moved to an option Shep an activate from a console for the ending to make even the slightest hint of sense.

[TMZuk]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

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Now this is the greatest piece of BS I've read so far on the BSN. Thanks, made my day... If you call self-sacrafice for the good of others a void of emotion, then have it your way. And all 4 ending have lots of different emotions in them (post-EC). It is not all happy, but of course it is not: the ME-trilogy is not a happy heroic flick, it's quite noir from the beginning to the end (except for ME2's "love boat" stupidity).

Oh and speak for yourself pal! Many dislike MEHEM, and not all of them are ending lovers or apologists. The lack of creativity in that convectional, pew-pew type of victory and hugging it all up with the LI in the end is absurd. This is a dark sci-fi (unfortunately ME2's soap operaish tendecies had a huge effect on people, but it is not a romantic flick + there are plenty of emotional character moments throughout ME3). 

It's not void of emotion. What it does to you, I don't know. To me, it causes nausea. I despise the Messiah parrable with a vengeance. A glowing god-boy emerges out of nothing, and grants Shepard the power to re-shape the galaxy as he/she see fit! And in the process lay down his/her life for the greater good....

Excuse me while I go to the toilet and vomit! I despise pseudo-mystical, pseudo-religious mumbo jumbo!

As if that is not bad enough, the whole ending, after the death of T.I.M., is utterly and completely disconnected to the rest of the game(s). There's NO hint that Shepard is Jesus in disguise. There's NO hint that Shepard is a sheep that would willingly accept the BS some glowing aspect of the Reapers attempts to feed him. If you like it, good for you. Go to Youtube or any other social media. The ending apologists are the minority! Not the silent majority!

MEHEM is far from perfect. It's a one man work, still in progress, on a game that isn't that easy to mod. But even being cliche'd, predictable and sugarcoated, it still beats the awful nonsense given to us by EA-Bioware. By a mile or more!

Modifié par TMZuk, 25 janvier 2013 - 11:37 .

[wright1978]

TMZuk wrote...

As if that is not bad anough, the whole ending, after the death of T.I.M., is utterly and completely disconnected to the rest of the game(s). There's NO hint that Shepard is Jesus in disguise. Ther's NO hint that Shepard is a sheep that would willingly accept the BS some glowing aspect of the Reapers attempts to feed him.

QFT

[voteDC]

I don't see a problem with Bioware releasing a 'happy ending' for those that want it.

People who liked the shipped ending didn't need to download the Extended Cut. If you like the endings now and don't want them changed then you need not download a happy ending if it ever comes.

I don't see Bioware giving people an ending they can enjoy as a bad thing. If people leave this trilogy on a sour memory then it impacts their willingness to buy future games in the series.

[chidingewe8036]

voteDC wrote...

I don't see a problem with Bioware releasing a 'happy ending' for those that want it.

People who liked the shipped ending didn't need to download the Extended Cut. If you like the endings now and don't want them changed then you need not download a happy ending if it ever comes.

I don't see Bioware giving people an ending they can enjoy as a bad thing. If people leave this trilogy on a sour memory then it impacts their willingness to buy future games in the series.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT ALL OVER THE BSN NETWORK
A MASS BROADCAST FOR HEAVEN SAKES.

[chidingewe8036]

If Bioware reveals this last DLC to be another random mission I am going to blow a gasket, addressing the breath scene is all that matters if it is not that............i'll say a prayer for them cause half of their fan base will split and head for the hills.

[Vic7im]

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

*cough*

[BrookerT]

I know people make fun of Artistic Integrity and all, but if an artist doesn't want to make something they shouldn't bow to pressure. They wrote the way they wanted it to be wrote, if they want to change it, it should be in the way they want. They wanted this ending. not the ending you want. The EC was a compromise between their vision and fans requests.

It seems odd that people criticize companies like EA for appealing to the masses, but the instant people don't get what they want, they scream and shout, saying it must conform to there desire.

[GimmeDaGun]

TMZuk wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

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Now this is the greatest piece of BS I've read so far on the BSN. Thanks, made my day... If you call self-sacrafice for the good of others a void of emotion, then have it your way. And all 4 ending have lots of different emotions in them (post-EC). It is not all happy, but of course it is not: the ME-trilogy is not a happy heroic flick, it's quite noir from the beginning to the end (except for ME2's "love boat" stupidity).

Oh and speak for yourself pal! Many dislike MEHEM, and not all of them are ending lovers or apologists. The lack of creativity in that convectional, pew-pew type of victory and hugging it all up with the LI in the end is absurd. This is a dark sci-fi (unfortunately ME2's soap operaish tendecies had a huge effect on people, but it is not a romantic flick + there are plenty of emotional character moments throughout ME3). 

It's not void of emotion. What it does to you, I don't know. To me, it causes nausea. I despise the Messiah parrable with a vengeance. A glowing god-boy emerges out of nothing, and grants Shepard the power to re-shape the galaxy as he/she see fit! And in the process lay down his/her life for the greater good....

Excuse me while I go to the toilet and vomit! I despise pseudo-mystical, pseudo-religious mumbo jumbo!

As if that is not bad enough, the whole ending, after the death of T.I.M., is utterly and completely disconnected to the rest of the game(s). There's NO hint that Shepard is Jesus in disguise. There's NO hint that Shepard is a sheep that would willingly accept the BS some glowing aspect of the Reapers attempts to feed him. If you like it, good for you. Go to Youtube or any other social media. The ending apologists are the minority! Not the silent majority!

MEHEM is far from perfect. It's a one man work, still in progress, on a game that isn't that easy to mod. But even being cliche'd, predictable and sugarcoated, it still beats the awful nonsense given to us by EA-Bioware. By a mile or more!

Sorry, but I'm not willing to, so I don't participate in this whole "my cigaro is bigger than yours contest", which is the "who's majority or minority" concerning opinions about the ending. That's for those who aim to generalise thier own opinions and make it the only one that counts. I don't care about that. 

I have no problem with you not liking the ending, I'm ok with you hating it or going out to the toilet and puking all around it out of disgust, if that's what the ending does to you. I would feel pretty much the same if the ending was the usual happy ending bang-bang, kiss-kiss stuff. I'm also fine if you keep posting about it here. I can't help it, so I don't really care about it.

What I don't get is why can't you just accept that there are people out there who have slightly different tastes. Oh, and I love mystical, symbolic, pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo mixed with gritty, noirish wibe and the theme of sacrafice, which is one of the strongest forms of heroism. And yes, it does quite a lot to me. You know why? Because we are all different. If you can't deal with that, it's your problem, not mine. If you can't cope with the ending and will hate anything about it fine, if you hate everything about ME3, I'm fine with that too, if you desperately try to convince those who like it about them being wrong, I'm fine with that too.. only it won't happen. And as a member of your so called "minority", I'm also here and will express my opinion as you do. Not harsher than you, nor to prove you wrong, but I will do it. 

[GimmeDaGun]

BrookerT wrote...

I know people make fun of Artistic Integrity and all, but if an artist doesn't want to make something they shouldn't bow to pressure. They wrote the way they wanted it to be wrote, if they want to change it, it should be in the way they want. They wanted this ending. not the ending you want. The EC was a compromise between their vision and fans requests.

It seems odd that people criticize companies like EA for appealing to the masses, but the instant people don't get what they want, they scream and shout, saying it must conform to there desire.

Well said, mister!

[GimmeDaGun]

Vic7im wrote...

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

*cough*

This survey was made way before the EC was released, mind you. 

[GimmeDaGun]

iakus wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Oh and speak for yourself pal! Many dislike MEHEM, and not all of them are ending lovers or apologists. The lack of creativity in that convectional, pew-pew type of victory and hugging it all up with the LI in the end is absurd. This is a dark sci-fi (unfortunately ME2's soap operaish tendecies had a huge effect on people, but it is not a romantic flick + there are plenty of emotional character moments throughout ME3). 

And if both options had been provided by biowar from the start, you could have your dark "bittersweet" ending and we could have had our "pew-pew victory" as you so condescendingly call it, and there'd be a lot less arguing on the BSN.

At least in regards to endings.

But no.  It's gotta be all dark all the time.  Because there's no way anyone roleplayed a Shepard interested in having a life outside the Reaper War, right?

I'm quite familiar with your posts and opinion, iakus. You should be familiar with mine too. We are not in the same boat, we both know that. I dislike the usual "pew-pew" endings, yeah. I find them lame and I'm into genres of literature, films and games which have a more creative and ballsy approach to their characters and story telling (games like: The Witcher, Deus-Ex, Thief, Metro2033 etc. etc.). So you should know that I'm not the biggest fan of the straight forward hero power trippy stuff. Tthat's why my least favourit of the three ME games is ME2... I was a bit worried about ME3 when I played that one... but Arrival and LoTSB kind of reassured me that there will be more to it than a huge scale Mr. Galaxy-Shepard power trip against the reapers.. But please don't make it sound like I was condescending to those who like this kind of stuff, cause I'm not. Actually I feel sorry for you, but on the other hand I can't do anything about your frustration and general negativity and also I - as egoistic ****** I am - tend to express what I think about ME3 and its endings. It's my opinion. I don't hold the philosopher's stone, but it's still an opinion, and just as valid as yours, only different. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 25 janvier 2013 - 03:47 .

[dreamgazer]

Vic7im wrote...

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

*cough*

I really hope this poll isn't taken with much credence around here, because the two options outside of "ending suck" don't accurately portray the other viewpoints. 

[fiendishchicken]

I think in all honesty that EA's ungodly release schedules forced the dev. team to panic and pretty much rush the game out half-finished.

That said, yes, I would like a new, far better ending. That's not going to happen.

So I'll go for the next best thing. I want additions to the current ending. One where I can truly challenge the logic of the Catalyst. I can't do it right now since doing so would reveal that BW really didn't put much thought into the ending. I reject all of the Catalysts notions. I reject his logic and I want to destroy the Reapers and live.

Shepard surviving is paramount to me. I played my trilogy with the specific intent of him getting a happy ending. I was denied that. I would like to be able to do that, and not settle for the ambiguous rubble breath scene.

[Jadebaby]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Not everyone wants a new ending. Some of us are fine with Shepard dying. Shep dying does not mean the ending was bad. The whole Starchild thing is what made the ending bad.

It's not the fact that Shepard died, it's *how* s/he died, it's terrible.

[Steelcan]

You all just don't see the endings for what they really are, art. You idiots all picked destroy I'm guessing. Succumb to the Catalyst and experience a greater galaxy than you could ever imagine, pick synthesis.

[fiendishchicken]

JadeShepard wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Not everyone wants a new ending. Some of us are fine with Shepard dying. Shep dying does not mean the ending was bad. The whole Starchild thing is what made the ending bad.

It's not the fact that Shepard died, it's *how* s/he died, it's terrible.

Add to the fact that it's really forced as well. Whether you want him/her too or not, Shepard dies. In an 'RPG', that's unacceptable. I choose for my Shepard to live, to destroy the Reapers, to find Miranda and have a life with her, being galactic super-spy's running a revamped Cerberus, and spending their lives traveling the galaxy forever.

Not.... space magic.