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[Elhanan]

Liked the trailer, but am hoping to see a gameplay version. It was one such as this for Skyrim back in 2011 that sold me that the game could be played my way. Also, am hoping they mute the Mature material this time; have skipped the prior versions, and this one is appealing as is.

[Druk-Qs]

Edit: woops

 

I like what I saw. Wish it was the PC version but oh well.

[Mr.House]

People blow this way out of proportion. 

I disagree. Some designs like Saskia for example where just laughable and screamed fan service. There is some I'm fine with mind you(Philipa and SIle) but some like Saskia just make me want to smack something.

 

Also CDP will always have the stigma of the sex cards.

[Khayness]

Oh damn, the sitting down for a cup of tea alchemy system is here to stay. Looks like I'll be using the general combat buff potions 90% at the time again.

[Maliken]

Oh damn, the sitting down for a cup of tea alchemy system is here to stay. Looks like I'll be using the general combat buff potions 90% at the time again.

 

I think the devs mentioned somewhere that they did change the potion system a bit. Since witchers sort of control their own metabolism, you still have to drink the potions before combat, but you can activate the effects during it. 

[Khayness]

I think the devs mentioned somewhere that they did change the potion system a bit. Since witchers sort of control their own metabolism, you still have to drink the potions before combat, but you can activate the effects during it. 

 

I don't know how that helps without meta knowledge. Sure, when you are out on a contract you know what you are up against.

 

But when you explore and get bandits, nekkers, drowned ones, then go into a dark cave with rotfiends in it (say in around under 10 minutes), you are SOL. Your best bet will still be the general buff potions. I'm looking at you Act II.

[Reever]

Twitch Witcher 3 Live Feed!

 

Don't know how long the interview will still last..

 

And looks like it has ended...

[The Most Sneaky Of Foxes]

I disagree. Some designs like Saskia for example where just laughable and screamed fan service. There is some I'm fine with mind you(Philipa and SIle) but some like Saskia just make me want to smack something.
 
Also CDP will always have the stigma of the sex cards.

Why is it that sexuality in female characters is always immediately construed as sexism? It's well established in Witcher lore that most of the people in the game are sexist, but that's historically relevant and accurate. Saskia's trying to unite minorities, most of which are shown as being male. Why shouldn't she use her sexuality as a tool to get people snuggled up to her cause? It's even shown in a peasant's dream that that exact tactic is working.

As for the cards, I can't say much for those. Those were pretty silly. But they still aren't overly degrading or misogynistic.

[Mr.House]

Why is it that sexuality in female characters is always immediately construed as sexism? It's well established in Witcher lore that most of the people in the game are sexist, but that's historically relevant and accurate. Saskia's trying to unite minorities, most of which are shown as being male. Why shouldn't she use her sexuality as a tool to get people snuggled up to her cause? It's even shown in a peasant's dream that that exact tactic is working.

As for the cards, I can't say much for those. Those were pretty silly. But they still aren't overly degrading or misogynistic.

Because going on the front line with heavy armor, a big shield and a decent sized sword but having  her breast area showing is moronic. It's stupid and completely unneeded and yes the sex cards are degrading and disgusting.

[Khayness]

Awwwwww, yisssss!!!! I don't think I've seen a sex cards rant this year on BSN so far.

 

I was afraid people were moving on! Thanks for confirming that there still is one topic which can provide me endless amusement on this site.

[Maliken]

Honestly, I quite like that the Witcher isn't pandering to advocates of political correctness.

There is no gender equality in the Witcher's world, and I like how the lore doesn't shy away from bluntly showing you the brutality of life.

That said, I also don't agree with claims of misogony, as there are plenty of strong female characters - some with highly influential positions - in the lore.
In fact, the most powerful person in the lore is a woman.

[The Most Sneaky Of Foxes]

She's a dragon. I'm going to say that whatever armour she wears is ornamental and politically tactical. I admit it part of it is likely fanservice, but as I said, she clearly uses her sexuality as a tool - it's often a topic of conversation in the game, which is followed up by "boy I sure do like that saskia lady".

And sexism is defined as something that puts a gender below the other, dehumanizes that character as a sexual object, and/or only that character is placed in the story solely for their sexuality.

How does some cleavage apply to any of those terms? She's integral to the plot of Witcher 2, is shown as an authoritative figure above others, and someone who has great political power and is intelligent. But she shows some boob so now all of those are moot and therefore CDPRED are sexists?

And the sex cards are more akin to something like dirty playing cards than something that promotes misogyny. Yes, they are not in the best taste, but on the list of things I've personally experienced as "sexism", that's far down the list.

[Mr.House]

Awwwwww, yisssss!!!! I don't think I've seen a sex cards rant this year on BSN so far.

 

I was afraid people were moving on! Thanks for confirming that there still is one topic which can provide me endless amusement on this site.

If the complaint was not justified, CDP would have ignored it in TW2, they didn't.

[Mr.House]

She's a dragon. I'm going to say that whatever armour she wears is ornamental and politically tactical. I admit it part of it is likely fanservice, but as I said, she clearly uses her sexuality as a tool - it's often a topic of conversation in the game, which is followed up by "boy I sure do like that saskia lady".

And sexism is defined as something that puts a gender below the other, dehumanizes that character as a sexual object, and/or only that character is placed in the story solely for their sexuality.

How does some cleavage apply to any of those terms? She's integral to the plot of Witcher 2, is shown as an authoritative figure above others, and someone who has great political power and is intelligent. But she shows some boob so now all of those are moot and therefore CDPRED are sexists?

And the sex cards are more akin to something like dirty playing cards than something that promotes misogyny. Yes, they are not in the best taste, but on the list of things I've personally experienced as "sexism", that's far down the list.

We don't know she's a dragon, and if she thinks sex appeal is more important then being practical on the front lines, then she's a idiot.

 

Also I didn't say the cards promote misogyny, I said they are degrading and disgusting, which was clearly a big issue then you think as CDP changed this in TW2.If it was such a small issue it would have been ignored.

[The Most Sneaky Of Foxes]

You missed my point. She knows she's a dragon. She survived a tree through the chest. Why the hell would she need to cover herself in armour if it A) wasn't needed because of her abilities and B ) she could wear something that serves more than one purpose (ie appearances, politics, and sexuality)?

 

Degradation and disgust towards the female gender is misogyny. And I agree that it was in poor taste - that's why CDP changed it. But that doesn't mean it's the end-all-be-all most degrading thing there is. They don't show the women in the cards being forced to do something they don't want to do, being hurt, or otherwise afraid or angry. I'm not arguing that they aren't silly; I'm arguing that they aren't "disgusting". It's like a medieval nude pic they'd give to Geralt, not "look she's a sex thing and offers nothing else of substance to the world".

[Fast Jimmy]

We don't know she's a dragon, and if she thinks sex appeal is more important then being practical on the front lines, then she's a idiot.

 

Also I didn't say the cards promote misogyny, I said they are degrading and disgusting, which was clearly a big issue then you think as CDP changed this in TW2.If it was such a small issue it would have been ignored.

 

I'm not sure the cards, themselves, were in all that bad of taste...

 

...but the fact that it was presented almost as a Pokemon/"gotta collect 'em all" type interface that was probably the worst side of things. That these women were conquests to be collected and then forgotten.

 

Regardless of the role of the respective women involved, it still runs the risk of making them notches on a bedpost and nothing more.

[Maliken]

I think it's like beating a dead horse to be discussing something that wasn't present in the second game, and won't be present in the third one either.

Also, I think it's faulty to depict Geralt being the sole person to act out of lust. Geralt is equally as much of a conquest to those women if you regard it that way. In fact, Triss Merigold took advantage of his situation, not just for his affection, but to get him in bed as well.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Well you're not forced to bed every woman you see. In my first play-through of The Witcher 2, I made Geralt a one woman man with Triss. I also agree with this point:
 
 

Honestly, I quite like that the Witcher isn't pandering to advocates of political correctness.

There is no gender equality in the Witcher's world, and I like how the lore doesn't shy away from bluntly showing you the brutality of life.

That said, I also don't agree with claims of misogony, as there are plenty of strong female characters - some with highly influential positions - in the lore.
In fact, the most powerful person in the lore is a woman.

 
So many fantasy RPG's have gender-equality nowadays. It's nice for a change to see one that is rather reminiscent of how women were actually treated during the real-life medieval times.
 
I don't agree with the misogony claims either. Sure, there's a multitude of weak female characters but there's also strong ones such as Triss, Saskia, Geralt's mother and Ves. (Although they unfortunately turn Ves into a weak typical helpless woman at the end of Chapter 2)

[Yrkoon]

We don't know she's a dragon, and if she thinks sex appeal is more important then being practical on the front lines, then she's a idiot.

The Armor practicality argument again, is it?

In a million years I will never understand why Fantasy RPG gamers insist that all combatants in a Fantasy RPG adhere to real-world practicality when it comes to their wardrobes. Here's a fantasy RPG news flash: We don't know the magical properties of Saskia's armor. It may, in fact, bestow total body protection, even as it shows her cleavage.

By the way, where are the complaints about the various thugs and bandits that Geralt fights, who don't have anything covering their beer bellies at all?

And speaking of Geralt, lets voice our gripes about how his Silver weapons do practically zero damage to people, armored or unarmored. <----- this is a bigger slap in the face of realism than anything Saskia wears.

[slimgrin]

I tend to think Saskia was giving the local dwarven population something to leer at. She has a thing for dwarves after all. I've seen far worse examples of blatant sexy/bikini armor so it didn't bother me. Here's a better quality demo of the same Griffin hunt:

 

 

They need to polish some of the animations but they're taking combat in the right direction.

[stysiaq]

Hi everyone.

 

How do you think DA:I will compare to TW3? I started replaying the series few days ago, it's still pretty awesome.

I'm optimistic about the TW3 combat. TW2 could easily get frustrating right from the start on Hard+.

 

Too bad that the hunt is visibly scripted. I wish the griffin was flying off to different locations, since the devs assure that you can climb it all.

[Dutchess]

^^Looks great, but why did they have Geralt fight the griffin with his steel sword?

 

 

Hi everyone.

 

How do you think DA:I will compare to TW3? I started replaying the series few days ago, it's still pretty awesome.

I'm optimistic about the TW3 combat. TW2 could easily get frustrating right from the start on Hard+.

 

Too bad that the hunt is visibly scripted. I wish the griffin was flying off to different locations, since the devs assure that you can climb it all.

 

 

DA:I doesn't look bad, but so far nothing Bioware has shown has been able to get me excited, whereas every new Witcher video increases my enthusiasm for the game.

[Farci Reprimer]

^^Looks great, but why did they have Geralt fight the griffin with his steel sword?

 

Sigh, Because steel sword is also for monsters. Most monsters are born with magic and they are thus vulnerable to silver but not all of them. SOme are resistant to it and I quess griffon is one of those things.

 

“As you can see, I carry two. Every witcher does. It's said, spitefully, the

silver one is for monsters and the iron for humans. But that's wrong. As

there are monsters which can be struck down only with a silver blade, so

there are those for whom iron is lethal. And, Iola, not just any iron, it

must come from a meteorite. What is a meteorite, you ask? It's a falling

star. You must have seen them short, luminous streaks in the night.

You've probably made a wish on one. Perhaps it was one more reason for

you to believe in the gods. For me, a meteorite is nothing more than a bit

of metal, primed by the sun and its fall, metal to make swords.

- Last Wish, Voice of Reason

[Dutchess]

 

Sigh, Because steel sword is also for monsters. Most monsters are born with magic and they are thus vulnerable to silver but not all of them. SOme are resistant to it and I quess griffon is one of those things.

 

“As you can see, I carry two. Every witcher does. It's said, spitefully, the

silver one is for monsters and the iron for humans. But that's wrong. As

there are monsters which can be struck down only with a silver blade, so

there are those for whom iron is lethal. And, Iola, not just any iron, it

must come from a meteorite. What is a meteorite, you ask? It's a falling

star. You must have seen them short, luminous streaks in the night.

You've probably made a wish on one. Perhaps it was one more reason for

you to believe in the gods. For me, a meteorite is nothing more than a bit

of metal, primed by the sun and its fall, metal to make swords.

- Last Wish, Voice of Reason

 

 

What's with the condescending sigh? I know they're both supposed to be for monsters, but the games seemed to want me to use steel only on humans/elves. I think in TW1 every monster entry mentioned the monster being vulnerable to silver and I've had to use silver sword on every nonhuman creature in TW2 as well.

[Farci Reprimer]

Sorry about that. I have read too much comments of posters on other forums who love to oversimplify game and book lore of the Witcher to no end.

 

A little while ago the fifth witcher book, The Baptisim of Fire was published in finnish and I devoured it in a couple of days. Regis, Milva and Ciri are the best!

Too bad I still have to wait couple of years before I get the last witcher book on my bookshelf.