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Out of curiosity, I went to the witcher forum to see their inquisition thread.
The gloating is strong with them people.
It was amusing as well to see BSNers like chewin and slimgrin there gloating over how badly the game makes them cringe.
Inquisition may well be turn out to be inferior to The Witcher 3. But man, what a way to win the race.
They are different games.
The Witcher only allows you to play a sterile, scarred, weird-eyed heterosexual dude. It doesn't allow much customisation.
Dragon Age and Mass Effect have always been about a group lead by a main character, about in depth followers.
The Witcher can wave around their graphics and combat all that they want, but I'll always prefer killing mercs with Garrus and Grunt, or dragons with Alistair and Leliana.
Honestly I'm more hyped about DA3, despite liking TW2 more than DA2.
Out of curiosity, I went to the witcher forum to see their inquisition thread.
The gloating is strong with them people.
It was amusing as well to see BSNers like chewin and slimgrin there gloating over how badly the game makes them cringe.
Inquisition may well be turn out to be inferior to The Witcher 3. But man, what a way to win the race.
There is no race or whatsoever. I never understood this whole pissing match between The Witcher and DA and I don't think I ever will.
Both are gonna be great different games. Why this whole "this one is beter then that one" when you can simply buy both and enjoy them?
Its not like you're forced to buy only one game.
Agreed. I can't wait to play both games.There is no race or whatsoever. I never understood this whole pissing match between The Witcher and DA and I don't think I ever will.
Both are gonna be great different games. Why this whole "this one is beter then that one" when you can simply buy both and enjoy them?
Its not like you're forced to buy only one game.
There we go, DA2 hate.
DA2 was a fine game.
Fair enough.Nuh-uh. No way. As much as I *should* be hyped about DA:I, I can't get myself to forget the shameless lengths Bioware will go to promote their games, be it via hyperbole, or plain exaggeration or flat out misinformation. Dragon Age 2 was not an illusion, people. Neither was its brand of dishonest pre-release hype. I don't know about you guys, but I was *conned* into buying it. Conned by Mike Laidlaw and David Silverman into believing that the Dragon Age: Origins sequel would be bigger and better, deeper and more complex...you know.... the exact same words they're using today to describe DA:I.So thanks, but I'll wait. I'll wait until people I *trust* have their hands on the game and can tell me, sans the used car salesman pitch, if it's worth the cost of the plastic DVD case it came in.As for Witcher 3... I have no such reservations. I'm going to pre-order it. Why? Because Witcher 2 acquitted its pre-release hype. It was everything they said it would be and then some. I have no doubt Witcher 3 will also be everything they're saying it will be. And that makes me excited.
On one hand, it's your fault for being 'conned' by Bioware given that you expected a bigger, better, deeper and more complex sequel out of game that had very little development time. The writing was on the wall. On the other hand, the fault also lies with Bioware. Throughout the years, they had built a trust with the fans and you could take their words at face value. DA2 obviously shattered such perceptions.
With that said, I didn't feel the same way. I was disappointed initially, sure. That disappointment was multiplied due to the fervour online and morphed into something more. I went back and played and found that I enjoyed it. There are definitely still elements that stick out poorly and mar the experience but it was still fun overall. I find it easier to replay than Witcher 2 (although I enjoyed W2 as a single experience more and if I were to list the faults of each, DA2 would far outweigh W2) due to Hawke (the customisable MC in general, really) and it's more accessible.
Ultimately though, it's everyone's prerogative to feel however they want to feel. Hopefully W3 lives up to the hype that has been built. :]
I'm hyped for both games although I have to admit that it's a higher for DAI. W3 will be the game that 'forces' me to jump to next-gen though, ha,
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
Planescape Torment and Deus Ex series both use predifined characters and they are one of dbest RPGs ever made. Sure witcher doesn't use it but it sure handles the decisions and rpg elements much better than Dragon Age ever did.
Needles to say il play both games, the only difference is i pre-ordered W3, but no DA:I due to "innacurate and lying" marketing and promises that Bioware did with last two games.
Well, I can already say that The Witcher's story didn't captivate me as much as DA's (and I like ME more than both of them together 
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But I'll have to finish the first Witcher before giving it my final verdict. And TW2 and DA2, too
I'm just happy there are lots of RPGs you can choose from, so everybody's got something for their tastes 
Out of curiosity, I went to the witcher forum to see their inquisition thread.
The gloating is strong with them people.
It was amusing as well to see BSNers like chewin and slimgrin there gloating over how badly the game makes them cringe.
Inquisition may well be turn out to be inferior to The Witcher 3. But man, what a way to win the race.
I have?
While I've posted certain issues I've find with DAI, I don't recall ever contentiously gloating the installment. I hope both DAI and Witcher turns out to be great games, don't see the reason to pick sides.
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
Lot of people here started playing RPGs thanks to the cinematic presentation of post-KotOR/JE BioWare games, and some of them are really adamant about staying in their confort zones.
Their loss.
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
With the addition of The Witcher being homophobic, sexist and "porn scenes" that often gets thrown around as well.
I have no problem with people being offended / annoyed by those aspects, but when they judge the game solely on that basis, I do get frustrated.
But alas, it's nothing new and people will complain on anything they can.
Oh, it can do more than that. It can also wave around its story, and its *real* Choice and Consequence branching narrative. It can wave around its better level design, and its non-reused assets. It can wave around its larger bestiary. It can wave around its better animations. It can wave around its totally non-rushed feel.The Witcher can wave around their graphics and combat all that they want,
One day I will really datamine the sex cards and check out how much disc space they take up in that whopping 11 gigs of a game.
On one hand, it's your fault for being 'conned' by Bioware given that you expected a bigger, better, deeper and more complex sequel out of game that had very little development time. The writing was on the wall. On the other hand, the fault also lies with Bioware. Throughout the years, they had built a trust with the fans and you could take their words at face value. DA2 obviously shattered such perceptions.
Remembering all the BS they conjured to ease our suspicions makes me giggle.
It's small because we got a super new data compression method! It isn't rushed! We can guarantee top notch quality in such short time because the groundwork had already been done with DA:O!
I ain't no cospiracy theorist guy, but delaying TOR to another fiscal year and shoving out DA2 on the door to balance earning reports seems to be the most valid one. Atleast the DA team manned up and Mr. Laidlaw sorta apologised, so yeah. On the other hand, 2012 gave us Artistic Integrity, so as far as honesty go, they aren't at the top of my most trusted list.
Oh, it can do more than that. It can also wave around its story, and its *real* Choice and Consequence branching narrative. It can wave around its better level design, and its non-reused assets. It can wave around its larger bestiary. It can wave around its better animations. It can wave around its totally non-rushed feel.
Basically, it can wave around the fact that it's a better friggin game.
Well, I can already say that The Witcher's story didn't captivate me as much as DA's (and I like ME more than both of them together
But I'll have to finish the first Witcher before giving it my final verdict. And TW2 and DA2, too
I'm just happy there are lots of RPGs you can choose from, so everybody's got something for their tastes
Fair enough. How far are you in Witcher 1 btw?
Hope both games do well and are fun to play.
Same here. I've enjoyed both series so far (even though I thought TW1 and DA2 both had significant issues), and I hope they continue to be entertaining.
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
Planescape Torment and Deus Ex series both use predifined characters and they are one of dbest RPGs ever made. Sure witcher doesn't use it but it sure handles the decisions and rpg elements much better than Dragon Age ever did.
Eh, what's gainedy laugh at people who have preferences?
I think everyone has a list of things they want in games in a certain genre, and if a CC is one of those elements, why is that any more laughable than any other preference? Disagreement is one thing, but I don't see what's gained by mocking other people's tastes, except to make these conversations into even more of a X vs. Y thing.
Oh, it can do more than that. It can also wave around its story, and its *real* Choice and Consequence branching narrative. It can wave around its better level design, and its non-reused assets. It can wave around its larger bestiary. It can wave around its better animations. It can wave around its totally non-rushed feel.
Basically, it can wave around the fact that it's a better friggin game.
You know, while I totally agree that TW2 was more polished than DA2 (which very obviously suffered from its rushed release), the story bits are totally subjective - fair enough to anyone who prefers either.
Personally, I actually enjoyed how differently the games used choice - I always felt that in TW2 you were making decisions that changed the world (while Geralt is always Geralt), and in DA2 you were making decisions that changed Hawke (while Kirkwall was always Kirkwall) - but since those are two very different focus points, whether or not one is "better" is always going to be a matter of taste.
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
Planescape Torment and Deus Ex series both use predifined characters and they are one of dbest RPGs ever made. Sure witcher doesn't use it but it sure handles the decisions and rpg elements much better than Dragon Age ever did.
Needles to say il play both games, the only difference is i pre-ordered W3, but no DA:I due to "innacurate and lying" marketing and promises that Bioware did with last two games.
That very much depends on what the individual values in an RPG. For many, myself included, the ability to customize and develop a character is huge. The Witcher games have been consistently deficient in that area compared to the likes of Dragon Age. I may enjoy games like Deus Ex, but frankly I don't really consider them the same genre as DA games. There is nothing to compare.
Sure, you do that. Everything I've seen regarding DAI speaks to them legitimately addressing the most vocal grievances against its predecessor, perhaps most tellingly the time they had to make it. ME3 and DA2 were both rushed jobs with a significantly shorter development time than the games that proceeded them (Something I suspect was out of the developer's hands and part of EA management's attempt to get Bioware RPGs on an annual release schedule. The addition of a third new IP to the Bioware portfolio should allow each to release with a three rather than a two year timetable as DAI has). They have been able to put in the time for DAI and what I've seen gives me reason to expect proportionally superior results.
I laugh at people who are using character creator as an excuse that DA is superior.
Planescape Torment and Deus Ex series both use predifined characters and they are one of dbest RPGs ever made. Sure witcher doesn't use it but it sure handles the decisions and rpg elements much better than Dragon Age ever did.
Needles to say il play both games, the only difference is i pre-ordered W3, but no DA:I due to "innacurate and lying" marketing and promises that Bioware did with last two games.
lolno, just no.
Man, I came in this thread to discuss The Witcher 3 but the drama is so much more exciting.
Um, can we just play nice and stop this nerdy warmongering about whose game has the biggest penis or whatever.
Bioware and CD Project make both great story RPGs which are every bit too rare in game development world nowadays.
Every person has right to an opinion and they are all equally right. For example I think both witcher games are slightly better than any Biowares production recently hands down, but that is just my opinion.
Now, back to more delightful topics please. According to this article we will be seeing at some point some kick ass trailer narrated by Charles dance himself. You know what that means?
It means brace yourselves! Emperor of Nilfgaard "White Flame" Emhyr var Emreis is coming!
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