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[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

[LPPrince]

Tomorrow(well technically today) I'm gonna try to pick up TW2.

Eventually after I beat it I better know what the hell y'all have been talking about for freaking ever.

[VoiceOfPudding]

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

hmm if I remember correctly it seemed like she had it coming... I could be getting her and Síle mixed up a bit though

[slimgrin]

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for her. Besides, she can probably form new eyes again since sorceresses can alter their appearance through magic.

[Seboist]

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

He gave her the appropriate punishment. It wasn't cruel one bit.

[Costin_Razvan]

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

There was a purpose to, it was to prove he was stronger then her, that he could finally unshackle himself from her grasp. The master had finally become the prisoner.

 Eventually after I beat it I better know what the hell y'all have been talking about for freaking ever.

Do you want a save-game for the armor, swords and import choices ( and Siegfried he's an awesome guy ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 19 février 2013 - 06:06 .

[Seboist]

Mr.House wrote...

I personally like that all the kings had massive faults that made them feel like real kings. My fav king though was Foltest, despite his little stint with his sister >.<

Foltest was awesme in both TW1 and 2. His death in 2 broke my heart but at the same time got me very emotionally invested in the story and the choices presented.

[sympathy4sarenreturns]

LPPrince wrote...

Tomorrow(well technically today) I'm gonna try to pick up TW2.

Eventually after I beat it I better know what the hell y'all have been talking about for freaking ever.

Take your time and read the Glossary and read up on quests as you go. As you do quests it'll update them and there is a lot to read. The narrative is branching and most choices have impact....some massively so. Once you get past the Prologue you'll get hooked.

Modifié par sympathy4sarenreturns, 19 février 2013 - 07:20 .

[Maliken]

In the books, you occasionally see snippets from the Encyclopaedia Maxima Mundi, a collection of tomes that details notable people and occurences in history. It's a Nilfgaardian propaganda piece, but it appears to written in a period where Jan Calveit is the current emperor, and Nilfgaard controls the entire continent.

[Mr.House]

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

Not really. Philippa, Deathmold and Sile deserved what they got in the end.

[Chewin]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Speaking of which, I did enjoy watching Sile explode when she tried to make her escape.

Indeed after hearing her only seconds before stating that Geralt would not live to see the future of the Northern conflict. Music to my ears. 

Though she is alive in my 'canon' playhtrough. What can I say, I like her too much. Of course that's not the only reason why she lives.

Mr.House wrote...

I personally like that all the kings had massive faults that made them feel like real kings. My fav king though was Foltest, despite his little stint with his sister >.<

I as well am a fan of Foltest, not only b/c of his characterization as a whole (including his foolishness and recklessnes) but also that he managed to expand Temeria's sphere of influence and make it the strongest kingdom in the North (IIRC). 

But ultimately, Radovid and his cunning and ruthlessness, makes me just want to look at him in awe. And of all the kings, he seems to be the only one to usher in reforms, were you to ask me. 

Modifié par Chewin3, 19 février 2013 - 10:32 .

[Dutchess]

Wow, I can't believe that people consider taking someone's eyes out an appropriate punishment. It was cruel, and it went way beyond making a statement. Torture is not justified.

I admit I let Roche kill Henselt. I was very hesitant about it at first, but when Henselt said that Ves squealed like a rusty hinge he signed his death sentence. Henselt was not a great king. He was more like a common criminal who happened to be king. He hated and persecuted nonhumans, wasting much of his realms resources for that goal. The common people were starting to get sick of their king's behavior as well. There was a conspiracy for a reason.

[Corto81]

renjility wrote...


I admit I let Roche kill Henselt. I was very hesitant about it at first, but when Henselt said that Ves squealed like a rusty hinge he signed his death sentence. Henselt was not a great king. He was more like a common criminal who happened to be king. He hated and persecuted nonhumans, wasting much of his realms resources for that goal. The common people were starting to get sick of their king's behavior as well. There was a conspiracy for a reason.

In my canon, Roche kills Henselt.
He was a murderer and a rapist, I don't really care what kind of king he was (even though he was more competent than most in the surrounding countries).

[Costin_Razvan]

Henselt was not a great king. He was more like a common criminal who happened to be king. He hated and persecuted nonhumans, wasting much of his realms resources for that goal. The common people were starting to get sick of their king's behavior as well. There was a conspiracy for a reason.

Then you are completely blind to what happened in the lore and in the game you were playing.

The conspiracy? Driven by nobles at the behest of Roche who were opposing Dethmold and any deals Henselt might make with Nilfgaard. Nobles who were bought by Roche.

He was a competent general who is one of the biggest reasons the north is still standing, He has improved the lives of his own people while the rest of the north is rotting away.

He was a murderer and a rapist, I don't really care what kind of king he was (even though he was more competent than most in the surrounding countries).

Rapist yes, murder on what account exactly? That he executed the Blue Stripes for what Roche did? That's perfectly justifiable ( and I say this as someone who was attached to them ).

And you would let thousands suffer just to have vengeance...whatever.

[Nerevar-as]

renjility wrote...

Wow, I can't believe that people consider taking someone's eyes out an appropriate punishment. It was cruel, and it went way beyond making a statement. Torture is not justified.

He´s just getting started. Philippa had his father killed (and almost got the kingdom´s master spy, so burn her). It´s Radovid the Cruel in history books, exactly for the revenge he got from everyone involved he could get his hands on. Surprised he "only" took her eyes.

[Milan92]

Mr.House wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Radovid is Stern, ruthless, pragmatic but not cruel.

What he did to Philippa was cruel.

Not really. Philippa, Deathmold and Sile deserved what they got in the end.

Roche became my hero when he castrated Dethmold. Shame he didn't do that with Henselt since he deserved much worse then getting stabbed.

[hangmans tree]

The art of the witcher - character design interview:

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Modifié par hangmans tree, 19 février 2013 - 02:00 .

[LPPrince]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Tomorrow(well technically today) I'm gonna try to pick up TW2.

Eventually after I beat it I better know what the hell y'all have been talking about for freaking ever.

Take your time and read the Glossary and read up on quests as you go. As you do quests it'll update them and there is a lot to read. The narrative is branching and most choices have impact....some massively so. Once you get past the Prologue you'll get hooked.

Oh I'm up for some in-game reading.

I'm the kind of guy who takes his sweeet time playing games(used to be able to get 100 hours out of a single playthrough of ME2 with all its DLCs) so I'm hoping this will be what everyone's made it out to be(though I never believed the people who made it obvious they were blowing things out of proportion).

Still, I'm excited. Crysis 3 comes out today with a free download of the first, but I think I'll set those aside and play TW2 first(if I can find a new copy).

[Chewin]

renjility wrote...
I admit I let Roche kill Henselt. I was very hesitant about it at first, but when Henselt said that Ves squealed like a rusty hinge he signed his death sentence. Henselt was not a great king. He was more like a common criminal who happened to be king. He hated and persecuted nonhumans, wasting much of his realms resources for that goal. The common people were starting to get sick of their king's behavior as well. There was a conspiracy for a reason.

Then in your definition, what makes one a great king?

Certainly, he is seen as a ruthless amoral bastard through his quarrels with neighbouring kingdoms / regions and his enmity with nonhumans, but under his reign he has strengthened Kaewden as a state and improved the well being of thousands of people. And he is not loathed by all the common folk. Zyvik states this himself. He is a respected general by his soldiers.

As for the consiparcy, that was done by Roache who paid them to conspire against Henselt. And him slaughtering the Blue Stripes is entirely justifiable, since he found out it was Roche who was behind it. Plus, it was Dethmold who adviced Henselt to have them executed. 

[sympathy4sarenreturns]

I play very slowly, too.

[Chashan]

XerofoxNL wrote...

In the books, you occasionally see snippets from the Encyclopaedia Maxima Mundi, a collection of tomes that details notable people and occurences in history. It's a Nilfgaardian propaganda piece, but it appears to written in a period where Jan Calveit is the current emperor, and Nilfgaard controls the entire continent.

Would be neat if WH would stick to that, then...difference being how said conquest was achieved, with one or two northern kingdoms having bargained for a favoured position within the Empire after having bled its invasion force dearly, or the north simply having been crushed. Depending on whom Geralt chose to assist/ignore.

As for dear Henselt: I'll admit I have not gotten 'round to choosing Roche and company over Iorweth's fellas yet - does the latter still play a part in chapter 2 then, anyway? - but how exactly does anointed Henselt show his grasp at war by being humiliated into surrender by an outnumbered force the way it happens at Vergen? Frankly, I was a tad bit annoyed I could only tease the man about killing him, sword at his throat, when I had Geralt sneak in his camp prior to that.