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Just because they deserve it.
"Videogamer.com – Least Likely To Be Absolute Arse Award"

They also won Gametrailers Game of the show today.

AWARDS

GameSpot – Best of E3
IGN E3 2013 – Peoples Choice Award
IGN – Best of E3
Official Xbox Magazine – E3 2013 Most Valuable Game
PC Gamer – E3 2013 Most Valuable Game
Polygon – Editor’s Choice E3 ’13
The Escapist – We Love It Award
GryOnline.pl – Best of E3 2013 – Best Game
GryOnline.pl – Best of E3 2013 – Best RPG Game
Games – The Best of E3
SB TV – Pick of E3 2013
Vandal.net – Best of E3
CVG – Best of E3
PlayStation Lifestyle – Best of E3
Videogamer.com – Least Likely To Be Absolute Arse Award
Twinfinite.net – Drool At E3 Award
4Player – E3 Best in Show
GamerNode – Best of E3
9 Lives – Best of E3 2013
Neoseeker – E3 2013 Role Playing Game
Neoseeker – E3 2013 Best of Show
Games – Geek Best of E3
Max Pick – Best of E3 2013
Navigator – Best RPG E3 2013
Whatifgaming – Most Gracious Technological Excellence
Whatifgaming – Most Anticipated
Whatifgaming – Best Adventure Game
Whatifgaming – Best Storyline
Whatifgaming – Game of Show
Machinima – Best of Role-Playing Game E3 2013
Score – Best of E3
Gaming Illustrated – Best of E3
Jeuxvideo.com – Best PC Game
Jeuxvideo.com – Best RPG
Examiner – E3 Best of Show
Xbox360 Achievements – Best RPG of the Show
PlayStation Universe – Best RPG
TechnologyTell – Best Swag
GiantBomb – Best Role-Playing Game
Game Debate – Best In Show E3 2013
Game Informer – Best Role-Playing Game
FleshEatingZipper – Best Role-Playing Game
TechnoBuffalo – Best in Show
Destructoid – Best Role-Playing Game
EGM Now – Best RPG E3 2013
GameTrailers – 2013 Best of E3 – Best Graphics
Ventura County Reporter – Best of E3
IGN – Best Reason to Upgrade Your PC
Hardcore Gamer – Best of E3 Graphics

UPDATE: 21.06.2013

GamerCast – Best of E3 2013 – Best RPG

DISTINCTIONS

Game Informer – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
IGN – Best of E3 Nominee
Machinima – Best of Role-Playing Game E3 2013
Destructoid – Best of E3 Nominee – Best of Role-Playing
Hardcoregamer – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
GamersPack – E3 2013 Choice of the Pack – Role Playing Nominee
WorthPlaying – Best of E3 Nominee
GameFront – Best of Show Nominee E3 2013
Lazygamer – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
Flesh Eating Zipper – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
Dvlzgame – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
Gaming Trend – Best Role Playing Game Nominee
Gaming Trend – Best Graphics
Multiplayer.it – Best of E3 Nominee
Gaming Excellence – Best of E3 2013 Nominee – Best Role Playing Game
Gaming Excellence – Best of E3 2013 Nominee – Game of the Show
Gaming Excellence – Best of E3 2013 Nominee – Best Multi Platform Consol Game
Gaming Excellence – Best of E3 2013 Nominee – Best Trailer
Neoseeker – E3 2013 – Role Playing Game Nominee
Neoseeker – E3 2013 Best of Show Nominee
Vandal.net – Best of E3 Nominee
GameTrailers – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
MexicoReset MX – Best of E3 2013 Nominee
XGN – Best of Show Nominee E3 2013
Zoomin.TV Games - Best Games of E3 Top 5
HardcoreGamer – Best of E3 2013 – Game of the Show
HardcoreGamer – Best of E3 2013 – Best PC Game
HardcoreGamer – Best of E3 2013 – Best Graphics
HardcoreGamer – Best of E3 2013 – Best RPG


Modifié par Cheylus, 22 juin 2013 - 11:43 .


#1402
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Awesome.

I just hope that the character development mechanics and itemization will be closer to wht Flash envisioned for TW2, rather then what TW2 had at launch.

Modifié par Haplose, 22 juin 2013 - 11:46 .


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Luxorek wrote...

The Witcher 3 is picking up major awards for their E3 presentation ! Here is the list from the official CDPR blog. Lots of "best graphics", "best RPG", "best of E3" and so on. Over 60 awards I think, not to mention various nominations.

Today they won Game of the Show from Gametrailers and it's freakin' fantastic because I just can't wrap my head around what some of those major gaming sites see in Titanfall - it looks like Call of Duty with mechs and I'm not even exaggerating : /


Titanfall and Destiny look so cliche it hurts. Giant mechs and more space marines, yippee.

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Haplose wrote...

I have to wonder though.... if there were deveopers who had such brilliant ideas and gameplay concepts... how come the game was shipped with rather poor, half-baked character development and combat systems?


This is spot on.  I don't think he was referring to the personalities and and development of the characters in the game, rather the development of the combat trees and overall combat presentation.

I don't think it is a good indicator if the player has to "get used to" a game's combat mechanics.  By "get used to" I don't mean "wow, this is hard, I've got to start thinking."  Rather it's "wow, this just feels awkward, it's dependent on specific mechanics and ideal timing, and I've seen railway schedules in foreign languages that are more comprehensible than the combat tree displays."  It's like the "acquired taste" theory...that saying just means you are eating drink/food that tastes like ass.

All great games have their flaws and for me this was it for The Witcher.

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slimgrin wrote...

Luxorek wrote...

The Witcher 3 is picking up major awards for their E3 presentation ! Here is the list from the official CDPR blog. Lots of "best graphics", "best RPG", "best of E3" and so on. Over 60 awards I think, not to mention various nominations.

Today they won Game of the Show from Gametrailers and it's freakin' fantastic because I just can't wrap my head around what some of those major gaming sites see in Titanfall - it looks like Call of Duty with mechs and I'm not even exaggerating : /


Titanfall and Destiny look so cliche it hurts. Giant mechs and more space marines, yippee.


If only WH40K had more games outside the RTS genre. :unsure:

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Played through act 2 over the last couple of days.

Was not bad. Not as much politics as I'd hoped for, but hopefully there will be some in Act 3 (seems like there will be a LOT more).

I liked the setting a bit more. The dense forest of act 1 was somewhat difficult to navigate and a tad annoying. The open fields are a lot nicer. One thing I definitely did not like was how eldritch act two was. It was really too much magic (and not just magic but rather dark magic) for my tastes.

I ended up letting Roche go ahead and...do what he does at the end. I was a bit unsure--as Geralt says it's a far cry from killing a backwater guardpost leader--but when I heard "she squeaked like an unoiled hinge"...I'd have done it myself.

On to Loc Muinne (sp?).

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Act two on Roche's path, not enough politics for you? Wow. I personally can't think of a game that has as much politics as act two does. I found that the magic, or curse rather, takes a distant back seat to the conspiracy and intrigue.

Oh, and you just threw the northern kingdoms into chaos, way to go....

But I did the same. :P

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 juin 2013 - 11:22 .


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slimgrin wrote...

Act two on Roche's path, not enough politics for you? Wow. I personally can't think of a game that has as much politics as act two does. I found that the maigc, or curse rather, takes a distant back seat to the conpiracy and intrigue.


Honestly, TW1 felt like it had a bit more.

I'm not looking for full-blown ambassador-to-the-throne politics, but TW1 felt like it had more, in ITS act 2 actually.

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Damn, you should have went with Iorveth : D Vergen is a maze !

You would have met, arguably, the most brilliant woman in the entire game, Philippa Eilhart. The great thing about the Witcher 2 is that when you finish the game you won't have a full picture - you will have to play Act II again [on the other side] for some things to become clear. And then you will fully appreciate all of the story and design.

Unfortunately [and this always gets me] some people are so used to short games and linear RPGs that they do not even realize that the whole Act II can be completely different depending on your choice.

EDIT: Oh, yeah...

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Modifié par Luxorek, 22 juin 2013 - 11:30 .


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TW1 didn't really have politics on the grand scale that TW2 did. It was more investigative and personal to Geralt's mission. In TW2, Geralt is caught in a political tornado. At least that's what it felt like to me. You're an outsider in TW1, in TW2 you are a tool.

Iorveth's path provides a more interesting environment and perhaps better side quests, but Roche is my canon. Even after 5 playthroughs.


Edit- Phillipa is one of the most ingenious and powerful characters in the game, male or female. But she makes a couple mistakes.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 juin 2013 - 11:38 .


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I did know about the two completely divergent paths. That's really cool.

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slimgrin wrote...

TW1 didn't really have politics on the grand scale that TW2 did. It was more investigative and personal to Geralt's mission. In TW2, Geralt is caught in a political tornado. At least that's what it felt like to me. You're an outsider in TW1, in TW2 you are a tool.

Iorveth's path provides a more interesting environment and perhaps better side quests, but Roche is my canon. Even after 5 playthroughs.


That's fair I suppose.

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In Act III I was surprise we weren't in freaking Westeros.

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slimgrin wrote...

TW1 didn't really have politics on the grand scale that TW2 did. It was more investigative and personal to Geralt's mission. In TW2, Geralt is caught in a political tornado. At least that's what it felt like to me. You're an outsider in TW1, in TW2 you are a tool.

Well written.

Witcher 1 barely had any political involvement and Geralt could even avoid most of it. The only time where you are forced into a decision is Abigail (guilty or not) and when Scoia' tael is robbbing the bank.
You can avoid The Order vs Scoia' tael war and you can also solve conflict between humans and vodyanoi without having to support anyone. Which are IMO the biggest political plots in the first game.

In Witcher 2 Geralt is literally forced into politics as soon as Chapter 2 begins.
The fate of Aedirn, Kaedwen and Temeria all depend on Geralt's decisions.

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Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

TW1 didn't really have politics on the grand scale that TW2 did. It was more investigative and personal to Geralt's mission. In TW2, Geralt is caught in a political tornado. At least that's what it felt like to me. You're an outsider in TW1, in TW2 you are a tool.

Well written.

Witcher 1 barely had any political involvement and Geralt could even avoid most of it. The only time where you are forced into a decision is Abigail (guilty or not) and when Scoia' tael is robbbing the bank.
You can avoid The Order vs Scoia' tael war and you can also solve conflict between humans and vodyanoi without having to support anyone. Which are IMO the biggest political plots in the first game.

In Witcher 2 Geralt is literally forced into politics as soon as Chapter 2 begins.
The fate of Aedirn, Kaedwen and Temeria all depend on Geralt's decisions.


And that's why I think TW1 has a more compelling story than TW2, the option to be neutral and true to the "real" Geralt of the books is awesome.

My hope is that in TW3 we won't be forced to resolve the nilfgaardian invasion.

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felipejiraya wrote...
And that's why I think TW1 has a more compelling story than TW2, the option to be neutral and true to the "real" Geralt of the books is awesome.

My hope is that in TW3 we won't be forced to resolve the nilfgaardian invasion.


I think Geralt has plenty of chances to tell people to **** themselves and just pursue his own agenda. I saw going with Iorveth as telling Roche to **** himself, and going after Triss as telling Roche/Iorveth to **** themselves. 

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There was no option to play neutral in TW2 and that is what i missed from TW1.

I think in TW3 we will be able to play more neutral and also follow the road we want so i am very happy the way CDPR is going.

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felipejiraya wrote...

And that's why I think TW1 has a more compelling story than TW2, the option to be neutral and true to the "real" Geralt of the books is awesome.


Geralt was neutral after the Scoiatel attacked the convoy in Blood of Elves? I don't think so. The best part of that book. It showed how biased Geralt can be when pressed by dire circumstances.

Modifié par slimgrin, 23 juin 2013 - 02:08 .


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Just because they deserve it.
"Videogamer.com – Least Likely To Be Absolute Arse Award"

LOL

Congrats to CDPR for all the kudos.

I thought Roche's act 2 had a lot of politics, but maybe it's not as evident because you're in a military camp rather than in meeting rooms.  But Henselt dealing with his men and with the enemy is also politics.  Dethmold as slimy advisor is one of the more entertaining sets of interactions in the game.

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fchopin wrote...

There was no option to play neutral in TW2 and that is what i missed from TW1.

I think in TW3 we will be able to play more neutral and also follow the road we want so i am very happy the way CDPR is going.


I agree, I noticed that too: I miss being neutral.

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fchopin wrote...

There was no option to play neutral in TW2 and that is what i missed from TW1.

I think in TW3 we will be able to play more neutral and also follow the road we want so i am very happy the way CDPR is going.


What do you mean by neutral? Geralt was dragged into a conflict, but I don't think you were really forced to buy into the cause. Henselt hires you for unrelated stuff, and with Saskia you're really siding with your companions. 

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What do you mean by neutral? Geralt was dragged into a conflict, but I don't think you were really forced to buy into the cause. Henselt hires you for unrelated stuff, and with Saskia you're really siding with your companions. 


You literally just said the opposite, Exile: you said that siding with Roche is a "*beep* you" to Iorveth. That ain't neutral.

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Offering the neutral path ALL of the time can seem contrived. In any game. I think CDPR realised this while writing the plot points for TW2. Everyone wants to have options, they want to role play and have player agency no matter what. But this is contrary to how CDPR designs their games.

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slimgrin wrote...

Offering the neutral path ALL of the time can seem contrived. In any game. I think CDPR realised this while writing the plot points for TW2. Everyone wants to have options, they want to role play and have player agency no matter what. But this is contrary to how CDPR designs their games.


You know, I can accept that...but that sounds like a complaint certain Witcher fans here (not you) have for Bioware.

But anyway. TW2. Fun. Intriguing.

I liked how Roche actually seemed very affected by his action at the end of act 2, he wasn't like "HAR HAR, I KILL HIM HE DESERVE IT!" he seemed...not sorrowful, but trying to avoid thinking about it. A bit more realistic.

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You know, I can accept that...but that sounds like a complaint certain Witcher fans here (not you) have for Bioware.


I've leveled that complaint against Beth, Bioware and CDPR. All three. IT'S A TRAP!

I felt better letting Henselt live and hearing the brief discussion Geralt and Roche have afterward. But the squeaky hinge comment got to me on my first run, so I let Roche gut him.

Modifié par slimgrin, 23 juin 2013 - 05:14 .