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[Bionuts]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Geralt sleeping with Cynthia has to be one of the most perverted things I've ever seen in a video game.

You obviously know nothing about Geralt considering what you just said

Explain. I'm new to this Witcher series.

What I know is that Geralt slept with the woman that turned his friend (Triss) into a statue, and let tortured in interrogation. And he's sleeping with Cynthia WHILE Triss is in interrogation.

That's more gross that having sex with the person that murdered your spouse. :o

[Blooddrunk1004]

Bionuts wrote...

Explain. I'm new to this Witcher series.

What I know is that Geralt slept with the woman that turned his friend (Triss) into a statue, and let tortured in interrogation. And he's sleeping with Cynthia WHILE Triss is in interrogation.

That's more gross that having sex with the person that murdered your spouse. :o

Unless if you read the books you don't even have a slightest idea what kind of person Triss is.

The person who manipulated and seduced Geralt with magic just to get him in the bed.
She tryed to use Ciri''s power for her own selfish needs and Lodge. Triss also managed to ****** off Yennefer more than anyone else, mostly because what she did to Geralt and what she tried to do to Ciri.
In one of the few situations Yenn almost lost her life in the book, because Triss refused to help her.

So yes, i don't care if Geralt is having sex with Nilfgaard spy. Cynthia was probably more honest with Geralt those last few minutes than Triss ever was. Those things i listed are just a small bit for what Triss was doing.
But that's the reason why i also love and respect her character.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 31 août 2013 - 04:34 .

[slimgrin]

Game Triss does not equal book Triss. We still don't know how deceitful or honest she'll be in TW3. But as for withholding info from Geralt to get in his pants, yes she's guilty of that.

[Dutchess]

I'm still curious about the conversation she had with the woman in the mirror in The Witcher 1. The woman ends the conversation with: "never let the witcher guess what you hide from him". She might have meant Yennefer, but it is never clarified. That was the main reason I could not fully trust her (I haven't read any books with her in it). Still, she has helped and saved Geralt several times in the games, so she can't be all bad.

[Bionuts]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Unless if you read the books you don't even have a slightest idea what kind of person Triss is.

The person who manipulated and seduced Geralt with magic just to get him in the bed.
She tryed to use Ciri''s power for her own selfish needs and Lodge. Triss also managed to ****** off Yennefer more than anyone else, mostly because what she did to Geralt and what she tried to do to Ciri.
In one of the few situations Yenn almost lost her life in the book, because Triss refused to help her.

So yes, i don't care if Geralt is having sex with Nilfgaard spy. Cynthia was probably more honest with Geralt those last few minutes than Triss ever was. Those things i listed are just a small bit for what Triss was doing.
But that's the reason why i also love and respect her character.

I know most of what you said (except for ciri), but I was under the impression that Geralt had amnesia.

[Bionuts]

Yeah, Triss is a creepy rapist. But does Geralt know this at the time?

[Dutchess]

Bionuts wrote...

Yeah, Triss is a creepy rapist. But does Geralt know this at the time?

When? By the end of Witcher 2, he claims his memory has fully returned, so then he should know everything.

[Bionuts]

renjility wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Yeah, Triss is a creepy rapist. But does Geralt know this at the time?

When? By the end of Witcher 2, he claims his memory has fully returned, so then he should know everything.

I missed that line.

[Tommyspa]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

ZombieMaster wrote...

If the DLC free is true, I think I'll pre-order now..

Wouldn't go with that being the reason to confirm a pre-order. They have yet to make any DLC that is actually good.

They did. In chapter 3 they added "Lillies and Vipers" and "The Secrets of Loc Muinne".
Both quests introduced new areas, characters (Cynthia and Brigida are my fav.) and you also learn a lot of backstory: what happened to Foltest's children and some Nilfgaard background.

I enjoyed these 2 free quests more than i did any ME3 DLC.

If those are your quality standards for enjoyment, more power to you.

[slimgrin]

Tommyspa wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

ZombieMaster wrote...

If the DLC free is true, I think I'll pre-order now..

Wouldn't go with that being the reason to confirm a pre-order. They have yet to make any DLC that is actually good.

They did. In chapter 3 they added "Lillies and Vipers" and "The Secrets of Loc Muinne".
Both quests introduced new areas, characters (Cynthia and Brigida are my fav.) and you also learn a lot of backstory: what happened to Foltest's children and some Nilfgaard background.

I enjoyed these 2 free quests more than i did any ME3 DLC.

If those are your quality standards for enjoyment, more power to you.

It was quality enough for me. And free, WTF is your issue?

Modifié par slimgrin, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:05 .

[Blooddrunk1004]

Tommyspa wrote...

If those are your quality standards for enjoyment, more power to you.

They have more quality than any ME3 DLC, especially since it was free.
And no i don't buy every DLC i see, in fact the only DLC's i ever bought was Lair of Shadow Broker, Borderlands 2 (every story content) and Dishonored (2 story DLCs).

Even if CDPR would charge us for those 2 missions i would glady pay for them, because they know what quality is and they know how to handle DLC properly.

How CDPR sees DLC =  "Content that you download" so people can buy and support the game post release.
How EA sees DLC/SAD = "**** already on the disc", since they gladly removed Zaeed and Javik from the main game.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 01 septembre 2013 - 07:32 .

[FlyingSquirrel]

I just finished TW2 today and I actually have a question about Triss semi-related to what was being discussed here. I haven't read the books, but I took Iorveth's path and busted Philippa out of jail so I could free Saskia, and didn't reunite with Triss until the end. When I got to the meeting in the amphitheater, someone (I forget who) reads out a list of supposed conspirators from the Lodge of Sorceresses, including Triss - implying, as best I could tell, that she was in on the assassination plot, Sile later claims that they only wanted Demavend killed and that Letho went after Foltest on his own. However, Triss doesn't say anything about any of this either way when you find her at the end, and Letho doesn't comment on her involvement or lack thereof. (Not that he or Sile are the most reliable sources in the first place.)

So did she actually know anything about the assassinations? I'm assuming she didn't and that she just got blacklisted in the general hysteria about the Lodge, but it got difficult to keep track of exactly who was plotting against whom and why after a while, especially since much of the information comes from characters you can't trust.

[Han Shot First]

The Lodge only planned for the assassination of Demavend.

This post is a perfect summary of all the plots within plots that were at work, and how Letho managed to dupe the mages.

[Nordicus]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

So did she actually know anything about the assassinations? I'm assuming she didn't and that she just got blacklisted in the general hysteria about the Lodge, but it got difficult to keep track of exactly who was plotting against whom and why after a while, especially since much of the information comes from characters you can't trust.

Triss tells you more about her involvement if you choose to go and save her instead of doing the alternative (Saving Saskia in Iorveth's path and completely different subplot in Roche's path)

The gist of it is that Triss was involved at some point but then got kept out of the loop due to being considered a liability.

You should do another playthrough in Roche's path, because there's still a TON of information that you can't get without doing his path. Trust me, I was a bit lost after doing my first playthrough with Iorveth, but then with Roche, the pieces started to finally click

[FlyingSquirrel]

Hmmm...I've been playing Geralt as sympathetic to the elves and dwarves, even though he disapproves of Iorveth's methods - does going with Roche mean I'll end up having to help Henselt attack Vergen? And do Zoltan and Dandelion still come with Geralt or do they go to Vergen no matter what?

In any case, maybe I'll at least go back and see what happens if I save Triss instead of busting Philippa out. I also kind of want to replay part of Chapter 2 - I guess I talked to the wrong people when investigating Saskia's poisoning, because I never managed to get all the evidence together before her followers stormed in and started demanding that Stennis be executed. I actually had several "failed quests" from not getting far enough when it was time for a chapter to wrap up.

Modifié par FlyingSquirrel, 03 septembre 2013 - 02:26 .

[Dutchess]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

Hmmm...I've been playing Geralt as sympathetic to the elves and dwarves, even though he disapproves of Iorveth's methods - does going with Roche mean I'll end up having to help Henselt attack Vergen? And do Zoltan and Dandelion still come with Geralt or do they go to Vergen no matter what?

You're with the Kaedweni's (hm, did I spell that right?) during the battle for Vergen, yes. But as far as I recall you are not as actively fighting as on Iorveth's side, and you can actually choose to help Iorveth get away after he's been trapped with a few other Scoia'tael in one of the palace's rooms. Zoltan and Dandelion come with you if you choose to go with Roche, though Zoltan will be less happy than in Vergen.

In any case, maybe I'll at least go back and see what happens if I save Triss instead of busting Philippa out. I also kind of want to replay part of Chapter 2 - I guess I talked to the wrong people when investigating Saskia's poisoning, because I never managed to get all the evidence together before her followers stormed in and started demanding that Stennis be executed. I actually had several "failed quests" from not getting far enough when it was time for a chapter to wrap up.

You only have time to complete two quests, meaning you can talk to two to three people at most (one of those being non-essential then. Only two essentials), and even if you've manged to do that you still don't get enough evidence to determine whether Stennis himself is truly guilty. Anyway, you will get the most information by talking to the dwarves and the servant who started talking.


During my vacation I did two more playthroughs of TW1 and started with another of TW2 recently. Finally tried the Order path in TW1 after having done my second on the side of the Scoia'tael and it... well, it really didn't sit right with me. I've never felt that bad while playing through the options that I consider "evil". It felt so wrong to side with those zealots and butcher elves and dwarves. Even all your friends are digusted by it, which strengthened my view that it is actually a nasty thing to do. Collecting squirrell tails to show how many you've killed... ugh. And then to hear Geralt say in a painting cutscene that he chose the lesser evil. Bah! 

To make up for that misery I'm currently at this guy's side again.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Thanks for the info. I may end up replaying both games eventually. I liked TW1, but found the narrative a little too stop-and-go for such a comparatively long story, so I'm not sure I want to commit the necessary time for more playthroughs. I found the Vizima outskirts storyline pretty dull up until the very end when the townspeople come after Abigail, and the part where the woman is killed just before her wedding and turns into a wraith seemed oddly low-key given how much else was going on at the time. OTOH, I probably wasted a lot of time wandering around hoping to find additional clues to some of these stories, so maybe it would go quicker now that I know where to look.

Modifié par FlyingSquirrel, 03 septembre 2013 - 04:59 .

[Dutchess]

The outskirts is indeed not the most exciting part of the game, but once you've become more familiar with the game, you can go through it pretty quickly, and it does offer at least two choices that have some effect later in the game, and shows you the consequences of your first decision (going to the lab or fight the frightener in the prologue).

I liked the Murky Waters chapter. Indeed it felt like a sudden change after being caught up in the Salamandra thing for three chapters, but it was a nice change of pace and a moment to come up for air before diving into the mess with the Scoia'tael and the Order again. And Geralt had to stay away from Vizima for a while, due to the political games he had gotten caught up in.

I felt like I could make more sense of TW1's story (same for TW2 actually) on later playthroughs, so maybe you will have fewer issues with the narrative if you try a second run. Still, it's about having fun, so just see if you're up for another go. It's definitely not necessary, unlike with TW2. Going with Roche leads to a completely different game, so if you don't try that you miss out on a lot of additional content and info.

[Tommyspa]

slimgrin wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

ZombieMaster wrote...

If the DLC free is true, I think I'll pre-order now..

Wouldn't go with that being the reason to confirm a pre-order. They have yet to make any DLC that is actually good.

They did. In chapter 3 they added "Lillies and Vipers" and "The Secrets of Loc Muinne".
Both quests introduced new areas, characters (Cynthia and Brigida are my fav.) and you also learn a lot of backstory: what happened to Foltest's children and some Nilfgaard background.

I enjoyed these 2 free quests more than i did any ME3 DLC.

If those are your quality standards for enjoyment, more power to you.

It was quality enough for me. And free, WTF is your issue?

I have an issue? Its because I don't think hour long missions have great quality doesn't mean I dislike it greatly and its a waste of time. Considering niether add to gameplay and the secrets of loc muinne just amounts to a puesdo philsophical discussion with a golem. Rivetting stuff.

[Han Shot First]

Roche > Iorveth

That is all. 

Modifié par Han Shot First, 04 septembre 2013 - 12:55 .

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

 ^ 

Not to mention Roche = 



All I can think of every time he speaks. 

[Mr.House]

Nothing about Iorveth is better then Roche.

[Milan92]

Where is the love for Triss? 

Surely not everybody dislikes here right?