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[TheChris92]

spirosz wrote...
Personally, I found the beginning of 1 to be a dreadful experience, but once you get past the first two acts it becomes a wonderful experience with a pretty rich story.   The second one is more involved in the politics of the world and I found it much more enjoyable and I prefered a lot of the characters.u. 

I concur with this -- Still need to finish it since the game has discouraged my interest several times when I played through the first 7 hours. But if it gets good later then I feel like I owe it to myself to persevere!

[Heimdall]

I never finished the first game and now that I've played the second I never expect to. YouTube told me what I needed to know.

[Addai]

Bah, Vizima > everything in TW2.

Sorry but it's the truth.

[slimgrin]

spirosz wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Yeah, I'd hate to see it like Assassin's Creed, it's probably the most boring combat, yet great to look at it.

You've started feeling that too, then? The coreography is beautiful, but there's just something so unsatisfying about it. Even with all the crunching bones and severed arteries.

All the enemies just stand there... waiting to be countered - I hate that.  

I'm not advocating that kind of AI, but as it is now everyone tries to steam roll Geralt and that's a problem. In the books there were great group battles described and it usually involved some degree of discretion or tactics on the part of Geralt's attackers. This is what they need to bring into the combat.

Also, Addai is right. Vizima is more impressive from a level design standpoint than anything in TW2. 

[spirosz]

I agree about that, yes. That is in relation with the atmosphere, which TW2 was lacking.

[Seboist]

Addai67 wrote...

Bah, Vizima > everything in TW2.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Act 3 with all of Vizima and the swamps unlocked was awesome.

Oh how I love TW1.

[Farci Reprimer]

I love Dragon age but I love Witcher series even more.
Dragon age world just seems hollow in comparison to the witcher sometimes.
I hate how Biowares realm consists so much of mages vs templars and grey wardens vs darkspawn. If you understand these two things and the races human, elf, dwarf, qunari you pretty much sum up the whole story of Dragon age.
The witcher books and games give so much more the impression of a rich detailed world.

[Khayness]

Seboist wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Bah, Vizima > everything in TW2.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Act 3 with all of Vizima and the swamps unlocked was awesome.

Oh how I love TW1.

I'd take Act 1 and 4 over those anytime. Few games have detailed little villages. Not to mention when the sun goes down, the real fun begins.

[fchopin]

Yep I love TW1, the best atmosphere from any game I played.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Addai67 wrote...

Bah, Vizima > everything in TW2.

Sorry but it's the truth.

I don't know but I loved act II from TW2, I liked Roche's act II better than Iorveth, although it was great to see Henselt surrender and Dethmold getting executed. I think some people said some parts of TW2 were cut, apparently we were going to vist Dol Blathanna after Loc Muinne. 

TW1's best act was act 4, very different from the rest of the game if you ask me. and a welcome change of pace. That is until the Order and the Scoia'tael started fighting each other in Murky Waters. 

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[Cheylus]

Amazing. Even the horse poops.

[Han Shot First]

FarciReprimer wrote...

I love Dragon age but I love Witcher series even more.
Dragon age world just seems hollow in comparison to the witcher sometimes.
I hate how Biowares realm consists so much of mages vs templars and grey wardens vs darkspawn. If you understand these two things and the races human, elf, dwarf, qunari you pretty much sum up the whole story of Dragon age.
The witcher books and games give so much more the impression of a rich detailed world.

Bioware and CD Project Red both have strengths and weaknesses, IMO.

Bioware is much better with character interaction. Geralt's companions always feel less fleshed out than your Dragon Age or Mass Effect companions. You interact with your companions less in the Witcher and when you do the conversation most tends to be on the state of the world or the mission at hand. By the end of one of Bioware's RPGs you usually feel like you know your companions better than you do in the Witcher.

On the other hand CD Project Red is much better at crafting political intrigue, more complex antagonists who aren't just mustache-twirling evil (Loghain was an exception for Bioware), and choices that have real consequences in the game world.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Han Shot First wrote...

Bioware is much better with character interaction. Geralt's companions always feel less fleshed out than your Dragon Age or Mass Effect companions. You interact with your companions less in the Witcher and when you do the conversation most tends to be on the state of the world or the mission at hand. By the end of one of Bioware's RPGs you usually feel like you know your companions better than you do in the Witcher.

No offense but I liked Roche, Dandelion, Zoltan and Foltest more than most other characters. Foltest doesn't even make it past the prologue and I think he's way more interesting than some of the characters BioWare came up with. I used to think DA:O was dark fantasy, and it is but it is nothing compared to both Witcher games. 

[Addai]

Han Shot First wrote...

Bioware is much better with character interaction.

Bah. That's what I say to that. Bah, and pfeh.

@ Entropic: I too disliked the saturation in TW2 and much prefer the grittier look in TW3. I'll still miss TW1's soft palette, but it probably isn't thematically appropriate to the new game.

[Dutchess]

It was mostly the bloom effect that bothered me in TW2. Geralt's face often looked like a light bulb. Turning bloom off made everything look much better, imo. Other than that I do not see that much difference in the screenshots of TW3. It looks great, of course, but pretty similar to TW2 as far as I can see.

[Farci Reprimer]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Bioware is much better with character interaction. Geralt's companions always feel less fleshed out than your Dragon Age or Mass Effect companions. You interact with your companions less in the Witcher and when you do the conversation most tends to be on the state of the world or the mission at hand. By the end of one of Bioware's RPGs you usually feel like you know your companions better than you do in the Witcher.

No offense but I liked Roche, Dandelion, Zoltan and Foltest more than most other characters. Foltest doesn't even make it past the prologue and I think he's way more interesting than some of the characters BioWare came up with. I used to think DA:O was dark fantasy, and it is but it is nothing compared to both Witcher games. 

I too think that Foltest, Dandelion, Zoltan and Triss are more complex and intresting characters than most of what Bioware writes.
But it is actually no wonder because all of the witcher games characters are based on or inspired by Sapkowskis  book volumes which are high-class fantasy even compared to George Martin or Tolkien.
On the other hand, that is the main difference between witcher world and the world of Dragon age. One was created from pure inspiration in many years of work from a real fantasy book writer, and later adapted by ambitious and talented game developers. One was created by bunch of Game developers who thought couple of years what kind of fantasy world would best suit an RPG game.
David Gaider for example is not a bad writer but you can tell he is no proffessional fantasy book writer when wiewing his work like the stolen throne.

[HiroVoid]

To be fair, the fan favorite characters aside from Zoltan and Triss I know are characters that CDPR basically made from scratch like Roche and Iorveth. I also don't believe Philippa, Radovid, Siegfried, and Yaevinn were really in the books much either.

[Farci Reprimer]

Actually, Roche and Iorveth are not completely made up characters. As I recall Iorveths name is mentioned couple of times in the book Batisim of Fire as one of the scoiatel kommando leaders in the second war with Nilfgaard. Temeria´s secret police/force/service is also mentioned every now and then in the politics of Northern kingdoms so it would be logical that Foltest had someone like Roche close to him for some time.

And Philippa Eilhart not in the books much? Nothing would be further from the thruth. In the books she is the advisor of King Visimir of Redania and She becomes one of the major players in web of schemes in the halfway of the Witcher book saga and her secretly established the Lodge of Sorceresses after the events of Thanedd island is one of the key things in the whole plot. It is a shame how little Lodge was explained in the witcher 2 but hopefully in witcher 3 we will see more of its plotting and its members (like Franseca Findabair).
Also Yaevinn is one of the "faces" of scoiatel rebellion in the books regularly.

[slimgrin]

renjility wrote...

It was mostly the bloom effect that bothered me in TW2. Geralt's face often looked like a light bulb. Turning bloom off made everything look much better, imo. Other than that I do not see that much difference in the screenshots of TW3. It looks great, of course, but pretty similar to TW2 as far as I can see.

It looks early stage in a way, like they haven't implemented softening effects or any kind of ariel perspective. Maybe they are using a sharpeneing filter. Still looks amazing though, especially the amount of detail in that street scene and the trees. CDPR just takes environment design to another level.

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[jaza]

Seboist wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Bah, Vizima > everything in TW2.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Act 3 with all of Vizima and the swamps unlocked was awesome.

Oh how I love TW1.

I will say this for TW1: it has by far the best dountrack in series:

[Splinter Cell 108]

I liked this one more myself, and coincidentally it happens to be from Chapter IV, Murky Waters was really amazing IMO.