Original Stikman wrote...
landylan wrote...
Original Stikman wrote...
Ranting?
Yes, you summed up the "claims," yet missed the grounds supporting the claim. That is key in argument. The grounds for your specific claim was that a low-dps weapon won't do as well on platinum than a high-dps weapon would.
I don't have to prove that Platinum is NOT about DPS, all i have to do is prove that your grounds don't support your claim to bunk your Claim (which is the product of your argument). If I prove that your grounds are invalid, then you have no claim as it doesn't stand on anything but a stated opinion. (Edit: This is called a "warrant")
A lesson in argument.
Again, your grounds:a low-dps weapon/kit won't do as well on platinum than a high-dps weapon/kit would.
How to debunk your grounds? state: "the same goes for any other difficulty, therefore your claim that "Platinum IS dps is proved to not bear weight soley on platinum."
This is a response to your specific grounds, not necessarily Feneckus' or Sirian's. So using "our" argument, is a bit manipulative and I won't say that my debunking of your grounds debunks theirs.
Instead of proving that something is not true, you are going to "debunk" it? Your debunking statement is false. DPS is not as important on other difficulties. Powers are more effective and accuracy of weapons is actually useful for headshots.
You're basically just saying,"NO, you need moar dps is everywhere. Yeah, so you're wrong. I win."
A lesson in argument.
no, that isn't what i said. i stated my point in clear language, so you have misconstrued it quite a bit.
The status quo only needs to prove that the claim does not apply to the overall point. I am arguing on the status quo side.
I don't have to prove that the claim is not true, i have to prove that the claim has no grounds. to prove something is not true is the job of those who have the burden of proof.... thats how argument works
not sure why you felt the need to be condescending
If I sounded condescending, it's because I copied what you said basically...
Anyways... I don't even remember what you were debating over, but in order to debate you would need to define "skilled" player.
Most of the people here see people who can land consistent headshots and control enemy spawns as a skilled player. Both of these lose value in platinum. Thus, doesn't require more skill than gold.
Also, you can say that high dps is useful on other difficulties, but the fact that it's far more important on platinum is undeniable, so you would have restricted kit choices on platinum unless you want to nerf yourself.
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