PUG=pick up group. Basically you and three strangers
I consider good players to be the ones that know how to stay alive. Score reflects the damage output but if the other guys aren't constantly needing revives then the game goes alot smoother. Higher scoring games go quicker cause people are racing from spawn to spawn, but they fail sometimes cause of being over aggressive. If nobody has a revive medal and we extract, I consider that a crazy good team.
Good player = High scoring?
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Davik Kang
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#27
Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:27
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As long as you get the ten assist or bronze kill medal while contributing during objective waves, you're good by me.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:29
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Pshh OP...we all know that good players reflect their N7 rank and challenge points!!!
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:30
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xTh3xBusinessx wrote...
Pshh OP...we all know that good players reflect their N7 rank and challenge points!!!
Nonsense, it's all about Banmers.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:32
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High scores are not necessarily indicative of good players. A good player can be fourth on the list from setting off a biotic team's explosions, as an example.
Score ranking and actual score are another thing entirely though. You can be last place in score even though the entire team is within a 10k point range.
Or you can be last in score by 150k+ points. Which either means the players that scored that high had an exceptionally good run, or you were simply underperforming.
And THAT is exactly what most people don't see when they look at score. It's a two sided medal. I've seen pictures of BSN'er matches that ended up with a singular member hogging 300k points with the rest around 100k and the last with 50k points. Only the last of them was somewhat underperforming (not a strictly support class used, all had the same class (Furies), even though the other two too had a large discrepancy in score compared to the leader.
Just because the difference is high, doesn't mean the low score player is at fault, it could very well be the high score player is just that good.
And then people have to factor possible lag into the equation.
Score alone is meaningless.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:33
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Good player equals decent score, helps with objectives, revives teammates when safe, and intelligent consumable use.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:34
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I think its funny how people try to play a generally more fun and relaxing game like this in a super competitive sense, but are the same players that run crying if you ask them to nut up and play a game like Gears, Rainbow Six Vegas, Ghost Recon etc online.
Similarly to how so many people play CoD simply because it is easy and the generally unskilled can feel like a king, while running from a real man's competitive game.
Similarly to how so many people play CoD simply because it is easy and the generally unskilled can feel like a king, while running from a real man's competitive game.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:36
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Davik Kang wrote...
Yeah I guess this is how it ends up but it sounds really boring. I will prob quit if I ever get to this level. I don't really understand why players this good would ever bother with Gold or Silver. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this can be really fun and satisfying for many players, different people different tastes etc.Air Quotes wrote...
With good players in a team it all boils down to who gets to the juiciest spawn first, clears it and predicts and gets to another one faster.
Actually, most of the very good players only play gold. Platinum can be quite boring.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:37
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Well, it depends. If I'm the top scorer, then the title statement holds true.
If I come second, third or last, it is however false.
If I come second, third or last, it is however false.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:37
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IllusiveManJr wrote...
As long as you get the ten assist or bronze kill medal while contributing during objective waves, you're good by me.
I've seen several posts like this but I've had a lot of Gold pug games where I would've been far better off without the rest of the team. The biggest problem is spawn control. They tend to run around aimlessly while dying which makes enemies spawn all over the map leaving no room to rest if your shields go down.
And why do people start rocketing spawns as soon as wave 11 starts, WHY? I recently had a game on London and at start of wave 11 I was blocking the spawn at the ammo box in the middle behind the crate as I usually do. Some random low-scorer rockets the spawn which immediately respawns right behind me and I get sync-killed=/
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:37
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I agree with the full extraction thing. I'm most annoyed when one person's out either trying to get kills or thinking they are holding off the enemies so the rest of us can be extracted. They're preventing them team from getting the full extraction, meaning less xp for everybody. Selfish.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:39
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If spawns get messed up I don't get to bothered. The only thing that I dislike is when a player uses all their gels before wave six even comes up. Especially so when they use three at once because they're getting tossed around by a group of enemies.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:39
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I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:40
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Well yeah, and even comparing medals I feel there's issues. E.g. with Revive medals it could come down to how your team plays. You might be a tight-knit squad moving around the map together and picking eachother up, but you could also have a couple of high DPS characters, and then a high-defense Krogan and an Infiltrator for the emergency revives when necessary.IllusiveManJr wrote...
I look at medals more than score. An example is if a player only got the bronze assist medal in a Gold game, they're doing something very wrong. But a player with a low score but 50 assists and a revive medal was obviously contributing to the team. If you're tripling the teams score without nuking spawns and soloing latter waves then something is up with the team.
The problem with the scoring system is it boils down to who gets the killing blow. It's very lopsided.
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score is one indicator but not the only measure of success. I have played with some very good players that used a Volus and had the worst score due to playing a support role of buffing shields and debuffing enemies. Their play made that gold run feel almost like silver.
top score only impresses me if they are using seriously inferior weapons on a non-DPS type character and still outscore everyone WITHOUT rockets to spawns while being a contributing member of the team...i.e....reviving, helping with objectives etc.
a guy like me getting top score using my PPR level X and my maxed out gear on my Destroyer is no big deal. On a good team, my job is to take down the bosses and basically DPS the crap out of everything. That is not skill, that is just doing my "job" and is no more or less important than a Volus running around in an appropriate support role that gets the lowest score.
Yeah gear does seem to be a massive influence. Not long ago I was playing with a bunch of friends with my 'main' characters, doing alright but generally scoring low, so I switched to a lvl 1 Soldier with a Harrier for kicks in the last game, and got by far the biggest score for doing releatively little.
I guess I figured that high level play might be about building really well-coordinated teams with complimentary abilities, rather than massive defense- and DPS-based individual builds, but I suppose it would be hard for this to happen without some kind of competitive element between different teams.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:42
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GallowsPole wrote...
I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
Female conquests? Let me guess... Korean model?
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:42
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Also. If you really need to control spawns in this game to extract, I feel sorry for you. L2P. A four man competent team should make mince meat if any faction, any difficulty, even if they spawn on top of your noggin.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:43
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Most people on BSN think they're good players.
That's why there are those who use the scoreboard to show their greatness and those who call others elists for posting scoreboards because they can't get 250k in a Gold PUG.
And there are also the trolls. They try to make fun of elists and butthurtists by making one pointless thread after another. The funny thing is, the trolls are the vast majority and confuse each other so much that they actually troll other trolls. Who is elitist? Is that guy butthurt or just making fun of my totally sarcastic OP?
That's why there are those who use the scoreboard to show their greatness and those who call others elists for posting scoreboards because they can't get 250k in a Gold PUG.
And there are also the trolls. They try to make fun of elists and butthurtists by making one pointless thread after another. The funny thing is, the trolls are the vast majority and confuse each other so much that they actually troll other trolls. Who is elitist? Is that guy butthurt or just making fun of my totally sarcastic OP?
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:44
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IllusiveManJr wrote...
GallowsPole wrote...
I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
Female conquests? Let me guess... Korean model?
Mine are from the great state of Utah. All 12 of em.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:46
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IllusiveManJr wrote...
GallowsPole wrote...
I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
Female conquests? Let me guess... Korean model?
no. I would say 99% of BSN is underage kids, unemployed, or working class scrubs in deadend jobs. Hearing you guys try to talk about real life is like listening to a bronze player give advice on load outs.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:51
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Disciple888 wrote...
IllusiveManJr wrote...
GallowsPole wrote...
I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
Female conquests? Let me guess... Korean model?
no. I would say 99% of BSN is underage kids, unemployed, or working class scrubs in deadend jobs. Hearing you guys try to talk about real life is like listening to a bronze player give advice on load outs.
Im disabled, in many ways. Under alot of pain killers. I still havent lost enough of my fortitude to let mental instability allow me to brag about a game. I beat the snot out of my wife at iPad Scrabble last night. Hooooorah!
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:52
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GallowsPole wrote...
Disciple888 wrote...
IllusiveManJr wrote...
GallowsPole wrote...
I'd rather nut up and talk about female conquests then brag how great I am at video games. Some people need to get out of the house more.
Female conquests? Let me guess... Korean model?
no. I would say 99% of BSN is underage kids, unemployed, or working class scrubs in deadend jobs. Hearing you guys try to talk about real life is like listening to a bronze player give advice on load outs.
Im disabled, in many ways. Under alot of pain killers. I still havent lost enough of my fortitude to let mental instability allow me to brag about a game. I beat the snot out of my wife at iPad Scrabble last night. Hooooorah!
HOW DARE YOU CALL YOURSELF A MAN WHEN YOU BEAT YOUR WIFE?
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:52
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If you are constantly scoring higher than everyone else or you are scoring half of the total team score, there is no denying that you are doing something right, and the other players should probably take a look at what you are doing.
But generally score depends on so many factors [your kit, your weapon(s), the enemy, the difficulty, your teammates' kits, ...] that it has no real relevance.
But generally score depends on so many factors [your kit, your weapon(s), the enemy, the difficulty, your teammates' kits, ...] that it has no real relevance.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:53
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This is a gaming forum, where else would you brag about a game.
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Posté 24 janvier 2013 - 02:53
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Pyroninja42 wrote...
HOW DARE YOU CALL YOURSELF A MAN WHEN YOU BEAT YOUR WIFE?
Sometimes they just have it coming.:innocent:
