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If the Andraste faith were a real religion...


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ReubenLiew

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Your No's says no, but your ever says yes!

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le_cygne

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Borschtbeet wrote...

Scotsman284 wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

Scotsman284 wrote...

I'll stick to the old Elven gods, thanks. Chantry wreaks of medieval Christianity and im technically Christian too, so i really hate the Chantry and their self-righteousness. :/


Then I may have no choice but to launch an Exalted March on you and your homeland...after the Andrastianism becomes well established.


Eerilly Crusade-ish, no? Image IPB


Sorry, but the Chantry teaches us that the Maker will not return until his teachings have spread to all corners of the world.
If you refuse to worship the Maker and Andraste, you are an obstacle to his return.  As an obstacle you can choose to become an asset by converting to our faith or you can be removed by other means.


You're very clever, shem, very clever. But it's demon babies all the way down.

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I seriously hope this is a joke.

reminds me of that stupid "Jedi" or was it "Force" church some people established....all ya need is enough of a following and boom...instant "valid" religion in this world.


EDIT: just read more of the posts...obvsiously you aren't serious...however I do find your talk of an exalted march etc...strangely familiar....reminds me of..something I once heard about..think it was a history lesson

Modifié par Suron, 09 janvier 2010 - 04:15 .


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Suron wrote...

I seriously hope this is a joke.

reminds me of that stupid "Jedi" or was it "Force" church some people established....all ya need is enough of a following and boom...instant "valid" religion in this world.


Well, valid in the United States. I'm not sure how it works in other countries.

Back in highschool I had a lot of stoner friends and they always joked around about making a religion centered around a certain, substance, that would then make it legal for them to smoke it as a religious right. I thought they were very very strange. I don't think I have talked to them in fourish years :mellow:

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Archonsg wrote...
Lyrics from an old song but there's more than a little truth there don't you think?


Not really. Just sounds like some singer was making an attempt at being witty.

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Borschtbeet wrote...

The Teviner Imperium eventually became the Byzantine Empire and spread Christianity which is a perversion of the Andraste faith.


The Byzantine Empire came from the roman empire...

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Kwanzaabot wrote...

Uh, it *is* a real religion. It's thinly-veiled Christianity.

So, no. I won't be converting anytime soon. :P

The trappings my Christian but the theology is more Islamic.

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ReubenLiew wrote...

The chance to wear sexy templar armor and spy on nubile young hot mages who want to flirt with you?
Where do I sign up?


Agreed. Bring on the mages! I got to keep my hand-... erm..EYES on them.

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Herr Uhl

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ReubenLiew wrote...

The chance to wear sexy templar armor and spy on nubile young hot mages who want to flirt with you?
Where do I sign up?


Agreed. Bring on the mages! I got to keep my hand-... erm..EYES on them.


*Weighs addiction to lyrium vs templar armor*

Me too!

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My Character in game, while he believes in the Maker, he Doesn't subscribe to a lot of what the Chantry espouses. Which is why he and Lelianna hook up. She feels the same way.

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Archonsg wrote...

Religion;

"Go ahead and hate your neighbors, go ahead and cheat your friends. Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end."

Lyrics from an old song but there's more than a little truth there don't you think?
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I would  agree if you are speaking of the religion of the Dawkinites (anti-theist atheists.)

But Christianity teaches one to love God and his fellow man. Statistics show that religious people in general help their fellow man more than atheists do and atheists have been responsible for the largest mass murders in recorded history.

If I lived in the world of Fereldon with my current knowledge of it, I would believe in the Maker but recognize the Chantry does not have a monlpoly on him and that it seems to have some things wrong.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:01 .


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.... No I wouldn't

Even Lelaina didn't agree completely with the teachings of the chantry...

but for nerdy fun I would ...

>.> I've been calling god the maker lately anyway so ... and since in deist it doesn't matter whati  call it anyway.

Modifié par Lenimph, 11 janvier 2010 - 05:43 .


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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

But Christianity teaches one to love God and his fellow man. Statistics show that religious people in general help their fellow man more than atheists do and atheists have been responsible for the largest mass murders in recorded history.


Oh so now atheists are mass murdering psychopaths. So much for that love your fellow man thing. :huh:

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Herr Uhl

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InvaderErl wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

But Christianity teaches one to love God and his fellow man. Statistics show that religious people in general help their fellow man more than atheists do and atheists have been responsible for the largest mass murders in recorded history.


Oh so now atheists are mass murdering psychopaths. So much for that love your fellow man thing. :huh:


You can't love psychopaths? Why is there so many women sending love-letters to people like Joseph Fritzl then?

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Its the mustache.

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...
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But Christianity teaches one to love God and his fellow man. Statistics show that religious people in general help their fellow man more than atheists do and atheists have been responsible for the largest mass murders in recorded history.


And of course you have no actual statistics to show for it.

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InvaderErl

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He'll pull out the tired Hitler/Stalin card.

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Herr Uhl

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InvaderErl wrote...

He'll pull out the tired Hitler/Stalin card.


Hitler, Stalin and Joseph Fritzl had mustaches. Coincidence? I think not!

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InvaderErl

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Facial hair of any sort increases your capacity for evil.



Ivan the Terrible, Genghis Khan, Mirror Spock.

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WarlordThor

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

atheists have been responsible for the largest mass murders in recorded history.


One word, backed up by history and statistics, to prove this is untrue.

Crusades.

That is all.

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Absolutely not.



Any religion that believes in conversion via sword point (Crusa...err Exalted Marches), is not one I could back.

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lol. wtf is a "real" religion? one with enough adherents? enough money behind it to influence politics? suicidally-inclined devotees? i just see the chantry as a business selling faith and oppressing mages. yeah, it's a religion but it's fraudulent by definition.

Modifié par phordicus, 11 janvier 2010 - 06:38 .


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Herr Uhl

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phordicus wrote...

lol. wtf is a "real" religion? one with enough adherents? enough money behind it to influence politics? suicidally-inclined devotees? i just see the chantry as a business selling faith and oppressing mages. yeah, it's a religion but it's fraudulent by definition.


If it existed in the real world. It is clearly a real religion there.

Edit: It would not exist in the real world due to no Andraste or believers, nor magic. If you would use the chant as a basis (removing the things about magic) it could be thought about.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 11 janvier 2010 - 06:48 .


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phordicus wrote...

lol. wtf is a "real" religion? one with enough adherents? enough money behind it to influence politics? suicidally-inclined devotees? i just see the chantry as a business selling faith and oppressing mages. yeah, it's a religion but it's fraudulent by definition.


If my degree in cultural anthropology is worth anything, it's the lesson that " what you put" is pretty much every religion than has ever come from humanity. It has it's moderates, it's nut jobs, and those who make a coin off it  (and not just those acting as if they of a said faith, no, even those within it's core structure)

So, Yes...You described one of several sides of a religion in a very clear and to the point way :)

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Kwanzaabot wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...
The fact the Andraste is fiction means not many will follow your faith.


Must... resist.... snarky... atheist... comment....


hey think about scientology ;p