Big Jack Shepard wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
You're not worth my time.
Ditto
Noooooooooo!
I want more!
Muhkida wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
No but the Typhoon's ramp-up time is small anyway. And faster RoF = more DPS.
I know that. I was just wondering if the ROF increase from Devastator Mode would cut the time for the multiplier to proc. Basically hoping I wouldn't penalize myself should I use the PPR....like the TSol and Markmans.
Sir_Alan_ wrote...
A great shooting based character with a level X Ultra Rare weapon, which is pimped with all the best amps and lvl 4 ammo - of course it's going to half decent. But i would argue that any weapon with the same stuff could be transformed into something pretty good as well, even if it was crap-tastic to start with.
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Lathlaer wrote...
Muhkida wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
No but the Typhoon's ramp-up time is small anyway. And faster RoF = more DPS.
I know that. I was just wondering if the ROF increase from Devastator Mode would cut the time for the multiplier to proc. Basically hoping I wouldn't penalize myself should I use the PPR....like the TSol and Markmans.
Typhoon goes into ramp up very fast, so even if there is a difference, it's negligable. On the other hand, the gun has very large clip and since all that matters is time to kill, emptying the clip faster is exactly what you want.
Shampoohorn wrote...
Sir_Alan_ wrote...
A great shooting based character with a level X Ultra Rare weapon, which is pimped with all the best amps and lvl 4 ammo - of course it's going to half decent. But i would argue that any weapon with the same stuff could be transformed into something pretty good as well, even if it was crap-tastic to start with.
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Actually, you'd be wrong. You can't drop bosses anywhere near that fast with the majority of weapons in the game. Lesson: You should never make blanket statements.
But regardless, my main reason for posting was to point out how amusing it is to see all of the shell casings streaming out of the Typhoon. So much for thermal clips.
It`s so difficult to concentrate.
upinya slayin wrote...
why don't you take a page from red john and learn to be a mature adult? cause your not making your "master race" look any better right now.
upinya slayin wrote...
spudspot wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
cause framerate = AI? right.
No, because there is a reason consoles will only give you 30fps. It's called processing power. Which might have something to do with how accurate the AI can be. Just a wild guess.
its capped to 30 this way the processor can keep the framerate smooth w/o having to sacrifice any processing that goes into enemy actions. and its level to eveyrone that plays it. On a PC a higher end one will run 60FPS and still be able to have the processing power to make the enemies as aggressive as they are suppsoed to be. on a high end PC with nothing running the AI will be = to an xbox it'll just run at a better framerate. on a low end PC the processor can't compute fast enough to make the enemies as much of a threat as a high end PC or xbox. but with a PC you can tweak it to make the enemies easier. but you can't make them ahrder then whats already programmed in the game.
Modifié par Caratinoid, 25 janvier 2013 - 09:24 .
Caratinoid wrote...
P.S.
Not sure why this is even a discussion in this thread, from the video I see him get hit a lot and he uses soft cover most of the time, you guys don't have that on x-box or something?
Feneckus wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
why don't you take a page from red john and learn to be a mature adult? cause your not making your "master race" look any better right now.
Haha, the irony
Please, when you die, give what you're using for a brain to science.
Upina pls.
Zjarcal wrote...
tyhw wrote...
Yeah, I think what he was trying to say is that the Incendiary ammo damage, as a portion of your total damage, isn't that impressive while you are still shooting, only after you stop. But now I'm putting words into his mouth...so I'll stop. I'll send him a message asking for clarification next time I see him online
Actually now that I found the post from Peddro on Feneckus' original thread about that comparison, that is indeed what he's saying:
http://social.biowar...8150/1#14158358
So yeah, your interpretation is indeed correct.
Lord Rosario wrote...
Look at all the things the Typhoon can kill when you're shooting at things that can't shoot back! While the level X gun is being used on a Destroyer with the best consumables credits can buy!
Yeah.. PPR can definitely do that.
Caratinoid wrote...
ha, you think? Ever tried 300 FPS?[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]
The game gets harder if you go over 30 FPS, every frame counts here and there is NO LIMIT on how hard you can make it, if you just keep increasing the frame rate. It has nothing to do with processing power, it's just an engine bug.
I might explain later on what, how and why some day but for now I will just say:
30 FPS on pc = x-box difficulty
P.S.
Not sure why this is even a discussion in this thread, from the video I see him get hit a lot and he uses soft cover most of the time, you guys don't have that on x-box or something?
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]
upinya slayin wrote...
On xbox, phantoms shoot you mid flip. They also charge at you agressively alot more then on PC where they just seem to dodge instead.
Deerber wrote...
Anyway, the incendiary thing is not really relevant. What is relevant is that Feneckus didn't use AP ammo, and therefore the PPR didn't have a chance to exploit the canopy bug, while the Typhoon did. That's enough of a difference for me to call that test uneven.
Sir_Alan_ wrote...
A great shooting based character with a level X Ultra Rare weapon, which is pimped with all the best amps and lvl 4 ammo - of course it's going to half decent.
tyhw wrote...
That seems to me like it supports my theory. What do you think?
Feneckus wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Anyway, the incendiary thing is not really relevant. What is relevant is that Feneckus didn't use AP ammo, and therefore the PPR didn't have a chance to exploit the canopy bug, while the Typhoon did. That's enough of a difference for me to call that test uneven.
I had the piercing mod, so I did exploit the canopy bug. Anyway, I might try it again with the same equipment, but it was my understanding that the PPR was most effective with Incendiary Ammo.
Deerber wrote...
Hey, I'm still waiting for our all-Drell against Geth Condor, 300FPS platinum match! :happy:
When are we going to suffer that kind of pain?
Lord Rosario wrote...
Caratinoid wrote...
P.S.
Not sure why this is even a discussion in this thread, from the video I see him get hit a lot and he uses soft cover most of the time, you guys don't have that on x-box or something?
We don't have a mouse that instantly aims directly at the head of an enemy. Switching between enemies as fast as he was in that video is absolutely impossible on Xbox due to the sticky aim assist on top of no way of increasing sensativity for the sticks. Recoil is also a bigger factor for Xbox.
So, PPR is much better at taking down a single target quickly before moving to the next, has no recoil, precise aiming, etc. Everything that makes the Typhoon a pain for Xbox, the PPR makes up in.
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Feneckus wrote...
upinya slayin wrote...
On xbox, phantoms shoot you mid flip. They also charge at you agressively alot more then on PC where they just seem to dodge instead.
They dodge because I keep hitting them in the head. They will always start dancing once you deplete their barriers. It's called headshots. You should try it sometime. Anyway, I have no idea why I'm talking to you, you've proven time after time that you have the IQ of a jellyfish. If a PC guy does something, he either modded his files, stacked consumables, lowered his FPS, played with a bad host etc ... It's beyond pathetic. Grow the **** up.
maybe i should go back to bronze and nuke spawns so maybe one day i can hope to beat it and not get carried
Deerber wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Look at all the things the Typhoon can kill when you're shooting at things that can't shoot back! While the level X gun is being used on a Destroyer with the best consumables credits can buy!
Yeah.. PPR can definitely do that.
No it cannot.
Zjarcal wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Caratinoid wrote...
P.S.
Not sure why this is even a discussion in this thread, from the video I see him get hit a lot and he uses soft cover most of the time, you guys don't have that on x-box or something?
We don't have a mouse that instantly aims directly at the head of an enemy. Switching between enemies as fast as he was in that video is absolutely impossible on Xbox due to the sticky aim assist on top of no way of increasing sensativity for the sticks. Recoil is also a bigger factor for Xbox.
So, PPR is much better at taking down a single target quickly before moving to the next, has no recoil, precise aiming, etc. Everything that makes the Typhoon a pain for Xbox, the PPR makes up in.
Lol ecks bawks
Feneckus wrote...
tyhw wrote...
That seems to me like it supports my theory. What do you think?
I don't know about the incendiary ammo by itself, but I know for sure you don't have to stop firing for the warp + incendiary combo to take effect. I've gotten multiple kills with warp while I was still firing. Does it prove anything ?
Deerber wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Anyway, the incendiary thing is not really relevant. What is relevant is that Feneckus didn't use AP ammo, and therefore the PPR didn't have a chance to exploit the canopy bug, while the Typhoon did. That's enough of a difference for me to call that test uneven.
I had the piercing mod, so I did exploit the canopy bug. Anyway, I might try it again with the same equipment, but it was my understanding that the PPR was most effective with Incendiary Ammo.
Ah, I see. I'm sorry, I was speaking off my memory cause I hadn't seen the video in ages.
By the way, does anyone know if the chance of triggering the canopy bug is related to the amount of penetration you have on the gun?
Lord Rosario wrote...
Look at all the things the Typhoon can kill when you're shooting at things that can't shoot back! While the level X gun is being used on a Destroyer with the best consumables credits can buy!
Yeah.. PPR can definitely do that.
Lord Rosario wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Look at all the things the Typhoon can kill when you're shooting at things that can't shoot back! While the level X gun is being used on a Destroyer with the best consumables credits can buy!
Yeah.. PPR can definitely do that.
No it cannot.
I don't believe that is even questionable... Any gun can kill enemies, faster when used with the right stuff against targets that can't shoot back. A Predator I could do that.
tyhw wrote...
When I was testing it before, we noticed you needed ~1 m of penetration to get it. Also note that the triple hit spot is actually pretty small, and with any gun that isn't perfectly accurate a large portion of your shots will actually only be double hits. When we did the one-shot Atlas vid, it took Sirian at least 4 or 5 tries to get it.
Modifié par Deerber, 25 janvier 2013 - 10:17 .
Feneckus wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Look at all the things the Typhoon can kill when you're shooting at things that can't shoot back! While the level X gun is being used on a Destroyer with the best consumables credits can buy!
Yeah.. PPR can definitely do that.
The PPR can't do :
http://www.youtube.c...NQ0ax7c#t=1m03s : Wouldn't get hot fast enough, the phantom would have meleed me and I would have had to use my grenades.
http://www.youtube.c...NQ0ax7c#t=1m49s : Couldn't keep firing for 30s like the Typhoon. I would have had to wait for it to recharge a couple of times maybe.
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