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[Feneckus]

Daihannya wrote...

IMHO the Tsol runs the Typhoon the best, well with the exception of running it against the geth.  But against all other factions he wields it better than a destroyer. 

IMO he's the best vs Cerberus, because everything that's not an Atlas has a head.

Vs Reapers, a Destroyer can keep firing when hit by Brutes or by a Banshee's warp. A Turian Soldier has to stop firing and wait for the ramp up again, that's quite a big difference in DPS.

About equal vs Collectors. The Destroyer doesn't really care about seeker swarms.

[Zjarcal]

So I decided to do the test properly again, here's a comparison of the PPR X and the Typhoon X without equipment on a Krogan Sentinel (just to avoid going for a class that benefits the Typhoon), using HVB and extended magazine on gold:



Both took just around 9 seconds to kill the Brute, though you can tell PPR did it a bit faster.

I'm sorry, but how is the PPR "exceptional" without equipment, while the Typhoon is "mediocre" without it?

EDIT: Warfighter package was the gear used.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 26 janvier 2013 - 03:48 .

[Swan Killer]

For the first time after the nerf, I took the Typhoon out for a spin, I actually did the challange with it.
I put it on the Destroyer first and I was quite surprised how well it did. Then I put it on the TGI.
HFS, the Typhoon just tore everything apart. I still prefer the Harrier over it, but I have to say, the Typhoon is still a good weapon on a weapons-class. And that's what makes it different (in a negative sense) from the PPR or the Harrier. Because it's really lackluster on a non-weapon oriented class. I like to slap my Harrier on the Huntress every once a while and it works great. The Typhoon is too heavy and does **** damage, compared to the other two mentioned above.  At least that's what it feels like.

Modifié par tivesz, 26 janvier 2013 - 03:59 .

[UnknownMercenary]

Zjarcal wrote...

So I decided to do the test properly again, here's a comparison of the PPR X and the Typhoon X without equipment on a Krogan Sentinel (just to avoid going for a class that benefits the Typhoon), using HVB and extended magazine on gold:



Both took just around 9 seconds to kill the Brute, though you can tell PPR did it a bit faster.

I'm sorry, but how is the PPR "exceptional" without equipment, while the Typhoon is "mediocre" without it?

EDIT: Warfighter package was the gear used.

I figured there wouldn't be a huge difference, but it's almost identical.

[Feneckus]

Zjarcal wrote...

Both took just around 9 seconds to kill the Brute, though you can tell PPR did it a bit faster.

Maybe. But 2 Brutes ? Typhoon and it's not even close.

[Elecbender]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

So I decided to do the test properly again, here's a comparison of the PPR X and the Typhoon X without equipment on a Krogan Sentinel (just to avoid going for a class that benefits the Typhoon), using HVB and extended magazine on gold:



Both took just around 9 seconds to kill the Brute, though you can tell PPR did it a bit faster.

I'm sorry, but how is the PPR "exceptional" without equipment, while the Typhoon is "mediocre" without it?

EDIT: Warfighter package was the gear used.

I figured there wouldn't be a huge difference, but it's almost identical.

Its 80 more DPS.  Practically irrelevant.

[Feneckus]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Banshees and Praetorians and Phantoms have double/triple hit glitches now? 

Yes, that headshot exploit us members of the master race can take advantage of 

[Feneckus]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Stop cheating Feneckus, we all know you mod your game files. 

Yep.

And I stacked multiple consumables.

And I capped my framerate at 15 fps.

And I played with a bad host.

And I used an aimbot. 

And then I edited the video.

Haha 

But it's nothing the average PC gamer doesn't do 

[BridgeBurner]

Since we're all ranting about the typhoon I decided I'd give a platinum solo "Sp3c7re style" a go.

51 minutes, with a horrible wave 6 objective, versus cerberus on firebase giant hazard. Not sure how long it would have taken if I had cheesed the phantoms like Sp3c7re did, I took a GPS with me, but to my knowledge I killed everything (including all the phantoms) with the typhoon.

I must confess the typhoon is still pretty good, but I would like to see it perform a bit better when you aren't using the "ideal" set up for it; a gun as heavy as the typhoon is should be exceptionally good regardless of what class you put it on; just like the harrier is exceptionally good regardless of what class you put it on.

Modifié par Annomander, 26 janvier 2013 - 05:51 .

[ValorOfArms777]

....wow I been saying this for a long time and nobody listens to me >_>



..or do they? <_<

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 26 janvier 2013 - 04:57 .

[Feneckus]

Annomander wrote...

I must confess the typhoon is still pretty good, but I would like to see it perform a bit better when you aren't using the "ideal" set up for it; a gun as heavy as the typhoon is should be exceptionally good regardless of what class you put it on; just like the harrier is exceptionally good regardless of what class you put it on.

The problem is, since it takes like 1 second to deal significant damage you can only use it on weapon classes, because it doesn't make sense to stop firing in order to use a power. No buff can change that, unless they get rid of that mechanic.

I'm fine with some weapon only being effective on specific kits.

I mean, nobody's complaining that the Acolyte / CSMG suck on weapon classes.

[me0120]

The Acolyte is only half good on the Turian Soldier.

[Sir_Alan_]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Sir_Alan_ wrote...

A great shooting based character with a level X Ultra Rare weapon, which is pimped with all the best amps and lvl 4 ammo - of course it's going to half decent. But i would argue that any weapon with the same stuff could be transformed into something pretty good as well, even if it was crap-tastic to start with.

...

Actually, you'd be wrong.  You can't drop bosses anywhere near that fast with the majority of weapons in the game.  Lesson: You should never make blanket statements.

"Could - Verb, used to indicate possibility"

You might not agree with my comment and that's fair enough but I never mentioned anything about dropping bosses quickly (with all weapons) in my post, so you're correcting me on something i didn't even say?! mmk 

Modifié par Sir_Alan_, 26 janvier 2013 - 05:46 .

[Sir_Alan_]

Feneckus wrote...

Sir_Alan_ wrote...

A great shooting based character with a level X Ultra Rare weapon, which is pimped with all the best amps and lvl 4 ammo - of course it's going to half decent. 

Half decent ? WTF ?

It's a figure of speech, you know what i meant...

Modifié par Sir_Alan_, 26 janvier 2013 - 05:50 .

[Lathlaer]

Annomander wrote...

Since we're all ranting about the typhoon I decided I'd give a platinum solo "Sp3c7re style" a go.

51 minutes, with a horrible wave 6 objective, versus cerberus on firebase giant hazard. Not sure how long it would have taken if I had cheesed the phantoms like Sp3c7re did, I took a GPS with me, but to my knowledge I killed everything (including all the phantoms) with the typhoon.

Wow, you solo'ed platinum and were shooting phantoms with typhoon?

51 minutes is incredible given the fact that it takes me sometimes almost a clip to get rid of one phantom.

But this solo is easily doable, I did it in around 45 minutes but I was killing everything more or less like he did: Typhoon for bosses, GPS for the rest.

Sp3c7eR had magazine V and stability mode V with warp ammo, so the difference between killing atlases, despite Typhoon nerf, was not that big because of the canopy glitch (which he didn't benefit from, to my knowledge),

[Feneckus]

Lathlaer wrote...

Sp3c7eR had magazine V and stability mode V with warp ammo, so the difference between killing atlases, despite Typhoon nerf, was not that big because of the canopy glitch (which he didn't benefit from, to my knowledge),

He did. The Typhoon could pierce one meter of cover back then.

He was losing a lot damage vs armor though.

[Lathlaer]

Feneckus wrote...

Lathlaer wrote...

Sp3c7eR had magazine V and stability mode V with warp ammo, so the difference between killing atlases, despite Typhoon nerf, was not that big because of the canopy glitch (which he didn't benefit from, to my knowledge),

He did. The Typhoon could pierce one meter of cover back then.

He was losing a lot damage vs armor though.

I know, but was one meter enough then? I'm quite certain it's not enough now.

He was losing this damage vs armor because many believed then that the gun had some kind of built-in natural DR piercing.

Modifié par Lathlaer, 26 janvier 2013 - 09:06 .

[Silvair]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Banshees and Praetorians and Phantoms have double/triple hit glitches now? 

Yes, that headshot exploit us members of the master race can take advantage of 

 

Stop cheating Feneckus, we all know you mod your game files. So does Sten, how does his falcon do so much damage???

It is still so wierd seeing anyone else referred to as "Sten"...So used to being called that due to my WoW main's name, since vanilla.  And I'm STILL the only character on all of wow with my character's name...

Modifié par Silvair, 26 janvier 2013 - 09:04 .

[Stardusk]

Feneckus wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Both took just around 9 seconds to kill the Brute, though you can tell PPR did it a bit faster.

Maybe. But 2 Brutes ? Typhoon and it's not even close.

Report to the ship asap, we'll bang, ok?

[Major Durza]

It does *nowhere* near that much damage at VI.  I'll empty my ammo reserves on two bosses.  My Piranha outperforms it by a very comfortable margin.

Modifié par Major Durza, 26 janvier 2013 - 10:44 .