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[Deerber]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Feneckus wrote...



Just a quick vid about the awesomeness of the Typhoon. For some reason, one guy made a thread calling it a boss killer and everyone made fun of him, which really shows how little most BSNers know about the game. 

It can one clip every single boss unit in the game, even Possessed Praetorians. Not in the vid because I didn't bump into one but definitely doable. It took 129 bullets to kill a Praetorian with 37575 combined barrier/armor. A possessed one has 50670 so it would take roughly 174. A bit less though because of the gun's mechanics. Also, note how it completely trivializes Praetorians.

Most people said PPR > Typhoon. Some even said the Revenant was superior.  Well, try to do what I did at 1:49 in the video with a PPR/Revenant. I stood my ground and single handedly depleted most of the wave budget in 29s, without moving a single inch. The PPR can't do that since you need to stop firing once in a while. 

BTW, does this look like a gun that needs a buff ? :innocent:

Yes it does need a buff. An accuracy buff.

You're using this gun on a character who gets Accuracy, RoF and Damage Bonus through a permenant skillset. You're also using AP ammo with adds more damage bonus and gives it extra piercing to rip through armor.

Your character's passive abilities also give him one of the highest weapon damage counts in the game next to GI of course and perhaps TGI (AR's) You're also stacking Stability mod III to give it extra accuracy and AR Gear mod V + Extended Barrel V.

Of course the Typhoon is gonna rip sh*t up when you slap on every consumable and non-consumable you can find then hand it to weapon-based class.

Niche build is niche.

Just trying handing the gun to Krogan Soldier or a Salarian Infiltrator without the AP ammo and without the Stability mod. You'll see the gun is quickly reduced to mediocre.

And what's more is that you tested this build on Gold not Platinum. Phantoms and Atlas' don't give you the time of day to sit there and empty a clip or 2 into them. On platinum they shieldgate you in 1 or 2 shots. And possessed Praetorians on Platinum... im not even gonna go there.

Stability mod does not increase accuracy.

Also, you might want to check that you know what kind of a player Feneckus is before you post things like that - he perfectly know what Atlases and Phantoms are capable of doing on platinum, and he also knows how to do all the things he did in this video on platinum, pretty much in the same way.

[N7-RedFox]

Zjarcal wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Just trying handing the gun to Krogan Soldier or a Salarian Infiltrator without the AP ammo and without the Stability mod. You'll see the gun is quickly reduced to mediocre.

Why the hell would you not use AP ammo with the Typhoon?

Stability mod isn't needed.

Im not saying you shouldn't i'm saying the gun is utter crap unless you mod it to high hell with consumables. The Harrier and the PPR on the other hand, can deal a shed load of damage without the need for consumables. All u need with those is a HVB and extended clip + AR Gear V and they can be effective with just about any class. Even on Platinum

Modifié par N7-RedFox, 26 janvier 2013 - 07:39 .

[HolyAvenger]

Everyone who mentions balancing game around platinum or not using AP ammo...I'm putting them on a list of posters not to be taken seriously.

[UnknownMercenary]

Yes, I too want the Typhoon to be awesome without any equipments.

Buff the base damage to 200, raise all the multipliers to 5.0 and make it not take a 50 damage penalty versus armor.

biower



pls

[Feneckus]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Niche build is niche.

Just trying handing the gun to Krogan Soldier or a Salarian Infiltrator without the AP ammo and without the Stability mod. You'll see the gun is quickly reduced to mediocre.

Like I said multiple times, it doesn't make any sense to use that gun on a non weapon class (Human/Turian Soldier, Geth Trooper, Destroyer, GI, TGI) because of the gun's warm up period.

And what's more is that you tested this build on Gold not Platinum. Phantoms and Atlas' don't give you the time of day to sit there and empty a clip or 2 into them. On platinum they shieldgate you in 1 or 2 shots.

You mean the exact same way they do it on Gold ? 

BTW, the Typhoon is fully capable of one clipping bosses on platinum.

And about that consumable nonsense, someone posted a video, PPR vs Typhoon without any equipment, they were equal. Except it took a whole PPR mag to kill a Brute, which means you have to wait a few seconds to let the ammo replenish, whereas you can just reload the Typhoon and you're good to go. So even without equipment, Typhoon > PPR.

[Deerber]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Yes, I too want the Typhoon to be awesome without any equipments.

Buff the base damage to 200, raise all the multipliers to 5.0 and make it not take a 50 damage penalty versus armor.

biower



pls

Biower plz.

Where's KillerAngel when you need him? 

[N7-RedFox]

Lathrim wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Just trying handing the gun to Krogan Soldier or a Salarian Infiltrator without the AP ammo and without the Stability mod. You'll see the gun is quickly reduced to mediocre.

Why the hell would you not use AP ammo with the Typhoon?

Stability mod isn't needed.

Im not saying you shouldn't i'm saying the gun is utter crap unless you mod it to high hell with consumables. The Harrier and the PPR on the other hand, can deal a shed load of damage without the need for consumables. All u need with those is a HVB and extended clip + AR Gear V and they can be effective with just about any class. Even on Platinum

Thing is, you're wrong.

Test it yourself and you'll see. Use the Typhoon on Platinum on any character (excluding TGI, GI, Destroyer, Geth Soldier, Turian Soldier) using only non-consumable mods. You'll see its not that great at all.

UR's are supposed to be Platinum-worthy at lvl X no matter what character you use. Typhoon just... isn't.

[Zjarcal]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Im not saying you shouldn't i'm saying the gun is utter crap unless you mod it to high hell with consumables. The Harrier and the PPR on the other hand, can deal a shed load of damage without the need for consumables. All u need with those is a HVB and extended clip + AR Gear V and they can be effective with just about any class.

Do I really need to post this again?

[Tybo]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Everyone who mentions balancing game around platinum or not using AP ammo...I'm putting them on a list of posters not to be taken seriously.

[UnknownMercenary]

Lathrim wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Yes, I too want the Typhoon to be awesome without any equipments.

Buff the base damage to 200, raise all the multipliers to 5.0 and make it not take a 50 damage penalty versus armor.

biower



pls

10.000 rounds per clip so it can fire non-stop for a whole wave too, or is that not enough? 

10,000 rounds for an automatic gun that does Widow damage? Yes plz. Give it 500m armor piercing too so it's basically a portable anti-tank gun. Make it happen biower

Also, the thing about Krogans...

It works fine on the Krogan Soldier. I use it on the Krogan Sentinel. AP ammo and a rail 3 makes up for the Sentinel not being a weapons class like Destroyer/HSol/TGI etc but the same argument can be made for a Krogan Soldier if you build him with 0 Carnage.

Krogans have some amount of stagger resistance too. Not like a Destroyer, but they can withstand a good amount of punishment when firing a Typhoon.

[Feneckus]

And stability mod is definitely not needed. But I'm low on Adrenaline Modules and Cyclonic Modulators and I have 200 Stabilization Modules, so why the **** not ?

What else should I use ? Shield Power Cells ? Power Amplifiers ? Power Efficiency Modules ? 

[BridgeBurner]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Everyone who mentions balancing game around platinum or not using AP ammo...I'm putting them on a list of posters not to be taken seriously.

This.

Platinum is designed in such a way that hardly anything is viable.

The typhoon is one of those guns that some form of piercing is a necessity on.

I run either barrel, EM + AP IV or HVB, EM and warp IV on it; if you are going in with scope, stability and cryo rounds II, you can expect it to perform poorly. The typhoon is a good weapon, I think it still could do with an extra 0.25x on its ramp up though.

[N7-RedFox]

Feneckus wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Niche build is niche.

Just trying handing the gun to Krogan Soldier or a Salarian Infiltrator without the AP ammo and without the Stability mod. You'll see the gun is quickly reduced to mediocre.

Like I said multiple times, it doesn't make any sense to use that gun on a non weapon class (Human/Turian Soldier, Geth Trooper, Destroyer, GI, TGI) because of the gun's warm up period.

And what's more is that you tested this build on Gold not Platinum. Phantoms and Atlas' don't give you the time of day to sit there and empty a clip or 2 into them. On platinum they shieldgate you in 1 or 2 shots.

1.You mean the exact same way they do it on Gold ? 

2.BTW, the Typhoon is fully capable of one clipping bosses on platinum.

And about that consumable nonsense, someone posted a video, PPR vs Typhoon without any equipment, they were equal. Except it took a whole PPR mag to kill a Brute, which means you have to wait a few seconds to let the ammo replenish, whereas you can just reload the Typhoon and you're good to go. So even without equipment, Typhoon > PPR.

1. They do it far more viciously on Platinum.

2. It certainly is capable. As long as your allies are taking the aggro while you ramp up and empty your clip. Platinum Geth though, you stand no chance whatsoever going to toe to toe with a Prime while he's targetting you if you are using any other character but the Destroyer.

[Feneckus]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Use the Typhoon on Platinum on any character (excluding TGI, GI, Destroyer, Geth Soldier, Turian Soldier) using only non-consumable mods. You'll see its not that great at all.

Use the Acolyte or Collector SMG on the Destroyer on platinum without any consumables.

You'll see it's not that great at all.

[Zjarcal]

Annomander wrote...

if you are going in with scope, stability and cryo rounds II, you can expect it to perform poorly. 

LOL, I wanna run that setup now just for the lulz.

[N7-RedFox]

Feneckus wrote...

And stability mod is definitely not needed. But I'm low on Adrenaline Modules and Cyclonic Modulators and I have 200 Stabilization Modules, so why the **** not ?

What else should I use ? Shield Power Cells ? Power Amplifiers ? Power Efficiency Modules ? 

That's not the point. Your thread title is about the Typhoon not sucking. The trouble is, it does suck without consumables and Soldier class/TGI to beef it up.

Hell i can make an Avenger look decent if i give it a truck load of consumables. Doesn't make it a good gun though.

[Feneckus]

N7-RedFox wrote...

1. They do it far more viciously on Platinum.

No they don't. Unless you're a Krogan Sentinel with a Cyclonic IV you're not gonna see any difference between a gold phantom and a platinum one.

N7-RedFox wrote...

2. It certainly is capable. As long as your allies are taking the aggro while you ramp up and empty your clip. Platinum Geth though, you stand no chance whatsoever going to toe to toe with a Prime while he's targetting you if you are using any other character but the Destroyer.

Totally different story with a PPR though, right ?

I just cannot take you seriously.

[BridgeBurner]

Zjarcal wrote...

Annomander wrote...

if you are going in with scope, stability and cryo rounds II, you can expect it to perform poorly. 

LOL, I wanna run that setup now just for the lulz.

Zjarcal, you're a soloer right?

For my 4th Lone Wolf, should I solo 3 silver games or 4 bronze games? I got the plat / gold done so I only need one... and scope + stability typhoon w/ cryo ammo II on bronze sounds like fun....

Modifié par Annomander, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:03 .

[N7-RedFox]

Feneckus wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Use the Typhoon on Platinum on any character (excluding TGI, GI, Destroyer, Geth Soldier, Turian Soldier) using only non-consumable mods. You'll see its not that great at all.

Use the Acolyte or Collector SMG on the Destroyer on platinum without any consumables.

You'll see it's not that great at all.

Collector SMG + HVB and Extra Mag is pretty good on Platinum. Can't vouch for the Acolyte though coz i'm not much of a fan of charge up weapons so i hardly use them. Except for maybe GPS coz that things single shots even pack a decent punch.

[UnknownMercenary]

I like the Harrier, but part of me wants it be nerfed to oblivion just so people stop comparing everything to it, going "Ooooh why do I need to use equipment when I just put on a Harrier 1 with nothing on it?"

The fact that the crux of your argument is the Harrier means that it's a ****ing anomaly.

The "PPR is so much better than the Typhoon without equipment" myth has already been debunked.

[N7-RedFox]

Feneckus wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

1. They do it far more viciously on Platinum.

No they don't. Unless you're a Krogan Sentinel with a Cyclonic IV you're not gonna see any difference between a gold phantom and a platinum one.

N7-RedFox wrote...

2. It certainly is capable. As long as your allies are taking the aggro while you ramp up and empty your clip. Platinum Geth though, you stand no chance whatsoever going to toe to toe with a Prime while he's targetting you if you are using any other character but the Destroyer.

Totally different story with a PPR though, right ?

I just cannot take you seriously.

PPR does a better job coz its accuracy is more or less perfect. No recoil

Modifié par N7-RedFox, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:08 .

[Deerber]

N7-RedFox wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

Use the Typhoon on Platinum on any character (excluding TGI, GI, Destroyer, Geth Soldier, Turian Soldier) using only non-consumable mods. You'll see its not that great at all.

Use the Acolyte or Collector SMG on the Destroyer on platinum without any consumables.

You'll see it's not that great at all.

Collector SMG + HVB and Extra Mag is pretty good on Platinum. Can't vouch for the Acolyte though coz i'm not much of a fan of charge up weapons so i hardly use them. Except for maybe GPS coz that things single shots even pack a decent punch.

... Eh.

I've never done this, but I feel like I should now:

\\thread.

Modifié par Deerber, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:06 .

[Zjarcal]

Annomander wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Annomander wrote...

if you are going in with scope, stability and cryo rounds II, you can expect it to perform poorly. 

LOL, I wanna run that setup now just for the lulz.

Zjarcal, you're a solo'r right?

For my 4th Lone Wolf, should I solo 3 silver games or 4 bronze games? I got the plat / gold done so I only need one... and scope + stability typhoon w/ cryo ammo II on bronze sounds like fun....

Pffft, do it on Platinum to show how boss Cryo Ammo is. 

Anyway, that setup sounds like fun on bronze, but for maximum lulz use it on something like the Shadow.