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megabeast37215 wrote...

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A minor buff would be for non-Destroyer/TGI mainly.

As someone else pointed out, on-host Phantoms would take longer to kill as well, but yes this shows how great the Typhoon is on the best setup for it.


I think the Tsol is better for the Typhoon personally. The spread gets so tight you can shoot all the bullets through a soda straw at 20 paces!

Also... I think it's worth mentioning... the Typhoon synergizes MUCH better with power usage than the PPR. The ramp up on the Typhoon is pretty short... it's not like the PPR where if you stop at any point in the clip you just F'ed yourself and might as well wait for the ammo to regen.


IIRC the Typhoon has almost twice as much damage as the PPR pre-ramp up. I don't think the Typhoon versus PPR argument is clear cut except that the Typhoon is about 1000 times cooler.

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mrwizeguy wrote...

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Typhoon is total garbage on 360. It's bugged on a platform apparently ....


thats why i am requesting a solo video with a single atlas , i will duplicate on console and try to compare if that is the truth

I'd like to see this info myself, honestly. :whistle:

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abcmasseffect wrote...

I swear they didnt nerf as much as they did on the xbox 360. Cause links n7 fury does so much more damage and now this guys typhoon is crazy strong. Nothing like xbox. I guess cause the devs play pc


I play on XBOX and my Typhoon feels just fine.

I think what happens is people get off target with the bullet stream and because there are still hit markers in the reticle, they think they're on target... when they're really whizzing bullets just past the ears of the enemies. It's kinda hard to see with all the BS DM overlay on the screen.

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You're using it on a Destroyer, which is the perfect match for this gun. 30% more damage + Clip + ROF. Plus stagger resistance.

On another class it's worse.


Other classes don't get the stagger resistance.

But the Human Soldier gets insane damage bonuses and can literrally keep firing until he runs out of ammo.

The Turian Soldier can snipe with it.

The Geth Trooper can equip Drill/AP Rounds and shoot everything he sees.

Destroyer isn't the only class who can dominate with a Typhoon.

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I have it at x and it doesnt do near his damage. They arent nerfing the pc as bad as the consoles. It pretty obviously cause i use that gun every day

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UnknownMercenary wrote...
IIRC the Typhoon has almost twice as much damage as the PPR pre-ramp up. I don't think the Typhoon versus PPR argument is clear cut except that the Typhoon is about 1000 times cooler.


Agreed, especially about the coolness factor.

The weight argument is also worthless... b/c you can't power spam with a PPR. Who cares if you have +115% recharge speed... you're spamming powers like you have a -100% recharge speed or you're ****g yourself over on the PPR's DPS. It's light weight is wasted by it's firing characteristics.

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What it can do on Gold now it used to be able to do that on Platinum before the nerfs.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 25 janvier 2013 - 01:52 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

abcmasseffect wrote...

I swear they didnt nerf as much as they did on the xbox 360. Cause links n7 fury does so much more damage and now this guys typhoon is crazy strong. Nothing like xbox. I guess cause the devs play pc


I play on XBOX and my Typhoon feels just fine.

I think what happens is people get off target with the bullet stream and because there are still hit markers in the reticle, they think they're on target... when they're really whizzing bullets just past the ears of the enemies. It's kinda hard to see with all the BS DM overlay on the screen.

That sounds like as reasonable an explanation as any. I mean, my Typhoon doesn't do nearly this much damage, but it's still level 1, and my Destroyer is specced for more survivability, with Hawks and Multi-Frags (with 4 in frags and passive), so it's obvious he won't get as much juice out of pure gunplay. Not yet, anyway... <_< >_>

FasterThanFTL wrote...

What it can do on Gold now it used to be able to do that on Platinum before the nerfs.

Kind of why it got nerfed in the first place, no? :whistle:

Modifié par N7Kopper, 25 janvier 2013 - 01:53 .


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abcmasseffect wrote...

I have it at x and it doesnt do near his damage. They arent nerfing the pc as bad as the consoles. It pretty obviously cause i use that gun every day


Do you really think that? I mean that PC guns miraculously do more damage than their PS3 or Xbox counterparts? Note that he consistently shoots enemy weakspots. 

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abcmasseffect wrote...

I have it at x and it doesnt do near his damage. They arent nerfing the pc as bad as the consoles. It pretty obviously cause i use that gun every day


I really hope that you are joking.

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spudspot wrote...
Do you really think that? I mean that PC guns miraculously do more damage than their PS3 or Xbox counterparts? Note that he consistently shoots enemy weakspots. 


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Lol, you should give up, Feneckus.

BSN is convinced that the gun sucks, and being close minded person as many are around here, they won't admit they're wrong even in front of video evicence. Someone is even saying that it's due to difference in platforms... A statement which needs to be supported by some facts, at the very least.

The gun is awesome. They wanna buff it? By all means, do it. I'll enjoy it even more after the buff.

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

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I ran the Typhoon III on my HSol earlier today, and it took ~130 bullets to kill a Brute on Gold. That was with EB + EM + AP3 + ARush. And as for that Atlas, it takes ALOT longer to kill on 360, just sayin'.

I can't explain it, I guess it must do more damage on PC.


You should use AP IV. The difference is seriously HUGE on the typhoon. You should never be under 90% armor penetration with it.

Modifié par Deerber, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:00 .


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I like the gun. I think it could use more spare ammo firstly though.

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The Typhoon is a definitely a good weapon. It's my first maxed UR, and the only one so far. When put on a class with accuracy and/or RoF bonuses it makes bosses a joke and can deal with mooks quite well.
My only complaint is there are only 5-6 characters which are good with it. And most of other URs can be good on nearly all characters.

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spudspot wrote...

abcmasseffect wrote...

I have it at x and it doesnt do near his damage. They arent nerfing the pc as bad as the consoles. It pretty obviously cause i use that gun every day


Do you really think that? I mean that PC guns miraculously do more damage than their PS3 or Xbox counterparts? Note that he consistently shoots enemy weakspots. 


maybe its just  the overal hardware performance that makes it seem better.. like 60fps and the pc processing power..

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Deerber wrote...

Lol, you should give up, Feneckus.

BSN is convinced that the gun sucks, and being close minded person as many are around here, they won't admit they're wrong even in front of video evicence. Someone is even saying that it's due to difference in platforms... A statement which needs to be supported by some facts, at least.

The gun is awesome. They wanna buff it? By all means, do it. I'll enjoy it even more after the buff.

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though); that might very well be false.

Flaming Snake wrote...

I ran the Typhoon III on my HSol earlier today, and it took ~130 bullets to kill a Brute on Gold. That was with EB + EM + AP3 + ARush. And as for that Atlas, it takes ALOT longer to kill on 360, just sayin'.

I can't explain it, I guess it must do more damage on PC.


You should use AP IV. The difference is seriously HUGE on the typhoon. You should never be under 90% armor penetration with it.

 

The PPR does more damage and at long range a lot of the Typhoon's shots miss because it has a fairly large spread. The PPR has no spread, it's literally a laser beam.

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Deerber wrote...

Lol, you should give up, Feneckus.

BSN is convinced that the gun sucks, and being close minded person as many are around here, they won't admit they're wrong even in front of video evicence. Someone is even saying that it's due to difference in platforms... A statement which needs to be supported by some facts, at least.

The gun is awesome. They wanna buff it? By all means, do it. I'll enjoy it even more after the buff.

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though); that might very well be false.

Flaming Snake wrote...

I ran the Typhoon III on my HSol earlier today, and it took ~130 bullets to kill a Brute on Gold. That was with EB + EM + AP3 + ARush. And as for that Atlas, it takes ALOT longer to kill on 360, just sayin'.

I can't explain it, I guess it must do more damage on PC.


You should use AP IV. The difference is seriously HUGE on the typhoon. You should never be under 90% armor penetration with it.


Agree with everything 100%.

Also... the PPR does do more damage. It can one clip any boss in the game except maybe a Possessed Praetorian (haven't ever shot one where I was the only one shooting it, so I don't know). PPR also has greater overall accuracy/range... even though the Typhoon has no range limit, the spread makes it lackluster at great range... unless Tsol.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Lol, you should give up, Feneckus.

BSN is convinced that the gun sucks, and being close minded person as many are around here, they won't admit they're wrong even in front of video evicence. Someone is even saying that it's due to difference in platforms... A statement which needs to be supported by some facts, at least.

The gun is awesome. They wanna buff it? By all means, do it. I'll enjoy it even more after the buff.

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though); that might very well be false.

Flaming Snake wrote...

I ran the Typhoon III on my HSol earlier today, and it took ~130 bullets to kill a Brute on Gold. That was with EB + EM + AP3 + ARush. And as for that Atlas, it takes ALOT longer to kill on 360, just sayin'.

I can't explain it, I guess it must do more damage on PC.


You should use AP IV. The difference is seriously HUGE on the typhoon. You should never be under 90% armor penetration with it.

 

The PPR does more damage and at long range a lot of the Typhoon's shots miss because it has a fairly large spread. The PPR has no spread, it's literally a laser beam.


Nice evidence, thanks :whistle:

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Call me naive, but I don't understand why a single weapon should be effective on every kit. If that were the case, why bother having racial or passive bonuses.

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mrwizeguy wrote...

maybe its just  the overal hardware performance that makes it seem better.. like 60fps and the pc processing power..


I reliably was able to kill Atlases in one mag with a Typhoon VII yesterday. On my sister's old notebook at ~15-20fps, while lagging terribad and having a GPU temperature of ~70°.

So yeah, I doubt this has that much influence.

Lord_Sirian wrote...

The PPR does more damage and at long range a lot of the Typhoon's shots miss because it has a fairly large spread. The PPR has no spread, it's literally a laser beam.


Come on, the accuracy is pretty good for an LMG. At the very least on most of the kits that can make good use of it. (Destroyer, TSol, GS.)

Of course I'm not saying that the PPR isn't more accurate, but the Typhoon has little problems with range.

Modifié par spudspot, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:04 .


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Hmm..i usually run my destroyer with shield booster and shield apps then i go with AP ammo and AR amps.and.i can shred bosses too, but damn..he was going thru them like swiss cheese..maybe the speed of the film has something to do with it as well, but he was still mowing those things down.

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Nice evidence, thanks :whistle:

 

If I need to provide evidence that the Typhoon has a large spread and the PPR doesn't then I have bad news for you...

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spudspot wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

maybe its just  the overal hardware performance that makes it seem better.. like 60fps and the pc processing power..


I reliably was able to kill Atlases in one mag with a Typhoon VII yesterday. On my sister's old notebook at ~15-20fps, while lagging terribad and having a GPU temperature of ~70°.

So yeah, I doubt this has that much influence.


you may be right. no evidence to back it up. was that on gold /plat?

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Agree with everything 100%.

Also... the PPR does do more damage. It can one clip any boss in the game except maybe a Possessed Praetorian (haven't ever shot one where I was the only one shooting it, so I don't know). PPR also has greater overall accuracy/range... even though the Typhoon has no range limit, the spread makes it lackluster at great range... unless Tsol.


I'm definitely not arguing about the accuracy, that's a big difference. Especially if you are not a semi-alien like Feneckus :lol:

But the damage? I remember a video of Feneckus clearly showing that the Typhoon was taking down Atlases faster than the PPR, which means it does more damage if I'm not overlooking things. It was on a destroyer so that might have changed things because of devastator mode bonuses, but I honestly don't think it was because of that.

So, hard evidence would be nice here.

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Clips7 wrote...

Hmm..i usually run my destroyer with shield booster and shield apps then i go with AP ammo and AR amps.and.i can shred bosses too, but damn..he was going thru them like swiss cheese..maybe the speed of the film has something to do with it as well, but he was still mowing those things down.


It's AP IV ammo on Gold.... it does that.