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mrwizeguy wrote...

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Typhoon is total garbage on 360. It's bugged on a platform apparently ....


thats why i am requesting a solo video with a single atlas , i will duplicate on console and try to compare if that is the truth


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It will be done uploading in an hour, but unedited footage. Only difference is I did not take 20% extra headshot damage; if it does make a huge difference I will change it since I have respec cards free to use.

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Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see r always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage

Modifié par abcmasseffect, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:31 .


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abcmasseffect wrote...

Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see or always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage


Facepalm....

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Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see r always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage

 

The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

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look at this build. you should do 175.86(or 270.04 when ramped up) vs gold armor for 52 shots (AR duration 5.2 seconds and 10 rounds per second RoF), that is 14'042.08 damage. include some headshots and you get even more. that is more hp than a brute has on gold. please try it again and make absolutely sure you hit, cause a brute should go down within the duration of AR if every bullet hits.


When the brute puts his hand over his face... he gets significant damage reduction, enough to significantly impact the Typhoons DPS.

 

It's Phantom level DR I think. Ridiculous. Even with piercing a Javelin shot will do less than one bar of armour if you shoot thru a Brute's arm.



Ah. So that is the reason. I've always wondered why sometimes my Javelin shots were not even scratching the bastard. Nice to know.

Also, UMerc, the vide is being processed ;)

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I know what ammo and mods to use, PLUS the HSol was getting a 70% damage boost, and AP3 is still nothing bad, the armour isn't the problem though, the SHIELDS don't drop that quickly on 360 from what I have found. I can't explain it, and sadly, I can't record anything. :(

Don't get me wrong, I KNOW it's a great weapon, but I just can't seem to make it as effective as the PPR. Maybe it is just a personal preference thing, but I would take the PPR over the Typhoon, even if they were the same level.

Being a GIANT LAZOR BEEM might help for the cool factor though... :lol:


That's b/c with AP ammo you get no bonuses vs shields... so they take forever. Nothing you can do about that except pack an Acolyte/Reegar.

When you use Warp rounds... barriers get shredded as well as armor.


I know that you get no bonus vs shields with AP ammo, I'm not an idiot... :mellow:

What I am saying, is that on 360, I found that an Atlas shields do not go down that fast with my Typhoon. Personal experience, call it what you want. The weapon still gets a 1.5 modifier to all defences.

Anyway, I will do more thorough checking tomorrow, for now, I'm going to bed.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

abcmasseffect wrote...

Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see r always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage

 

The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.

lol ok, well i do play platinum alot. i guess plat is much different than gold than. well on plat it doesnt do near as much. Should of stated that before

Modifié par abcmasseffect, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:35 .


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When comparing the ppr to the typhoon note that the Oct 24 nerf to devasator mode targeted the ppr more than anything - magazine size reduced 25% ( rate of fire only got nerfed 10% ). I made a video months ago trying to take down a gold atlas on xbox in one clip with typhoon X ( using same setup as pc guys ) and it always left a few bars of armor. After all these changes I will try to duplicate the to's results on Xbox on gold if anyone is interested ( would have to respec the destroyer because for ppr I go all upper row on devasator mode ). Hopefully my friends will help me again by letting me solo a few atlases, lol.

btw, i do use the typhoon on platinum with my krogan sentinel, so it is a good weapon, but not as good as the ppr, IMO.


I'll help you if need it this afternoon or tonight.


thanks.   And I can appreciate freneckus for his effort to use up his consumables to produce the videos - it's a bit of effort :)

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to sum things up in this thread:

mag size + HCB/HVB and ap ammo on kits with accuracy-boosting is the ideal setup for typhoon.

/end argument

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abcmasseffect wrote...

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abcmasseffect wrote...

Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see r always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage

 

The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.

lol ok, well i do play platinum alot. i guess plat is much different than gold than. well on plat it doesnt do near as much. Should of stated that before

 

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On Platinum, the enemies have far more health.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

abcmasseffect wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

abcmasseffect wrote...

Dont get me wrong i love the gun, love it more than the harrier. The harrier is much strong, but has sucky ammo. I use it with my tgi and krogan sentinel. Woked fine. I was stating that its not as strong as his gun appears to be. Yes i have used it with my destroyer multiple times. Could be the power of the pc or something cause most platinum solo's i see r always on pc. I seen it beat on xbox a few times. Also i use the fury alot and nothing is like n7 links fury, which is on pc. Im sure im wrong but be honest people it does seem pc users have a little less buff. Either way games great and the gun is still my favorite. But wouldnt mind seeing a little buff to damage

 

The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.

lol ok, well i do play platinum alot. i guess plat is much different than gold than. well on plat it doesnt do near as much. Should of stated that before

 

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On Platinum, the enemies have far more health.


yeah i only play plat so thats why i feel that way. i'm going to have to go to gold and use it then

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If you think the typhoon sucks, watching a video of a competent player do well with it should not change your mind, the gun will probably still suck when you use it.

Self promotion at its finest yet again.

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N7Kopper wrote...

Here's the build, if you don't want to watch the video, guys.

Load it up, boys and girls. Time to mow the field. haahaa

Amp + Stabalizer + Extended Barrel + Weapon Buff + Devestator mode + High rate of fire = dead things at the end of your sites.
Gotta love those multi-phasic weapons.
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abcmasseffect wrote...

yeah i only play plat so thats why i feel that way. i'm going to have to go to gold and use it then


That's where I use it... on Gold.

I save the PPR for Plat... it's too brutal for Gold.

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No hot reload via ammo pack while revved up (biggest advantage vs PPR IMO) illustrated in the video :( ...

Also TGI is not merely decent with the PPR - its an unholy combination (probably best typhoon user of the bunch)... Makes best use of the Ammo pack 100% damage bonus since that will apply to the enhanced base weapon damage *1.2 from tactical cloak ...Another synergy are the multipliers vs defences that effectively turn the ammo pack bonus into 150% vs defences for all classes and or 180% vs defences for TGI ...

The gear that lets you use more ammo packs per game was made for the typhoon ...

Modifié par peddroelmz, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:43 .


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Lord_Sirian wrote...
The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.


Can't it be that the FPS is higher on PC which means a lot more bullets will actually do damage to the target? From what I understand enemies can kill you easier when you have high FPS since their "accuracy" increases from it, and from what I understand the same is true when a player is shooting at an enemy?

This has been a statement for a long time here on this forum, that enemies are tougher on PC because of 60 FPS while on console we are stuck with something like 30 FPS (I think).

So by this logic, could it be true that weapons such as the Typhoon or the Harrier would deal more damage on PC than on console?

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peddroelmz wrote...

No hot reload via ammo pack while revved up (biggest advantage vs PPR IMO) illustrated in the video :( ...

Also TGI is not merely decent with the PPR - its an unholy combination (probably best typhoon user of the bunch)... Makes best use of the Ammo pack 100% damage bonus since that will apply to the enhanced base weapon damage *1.2 from tactical cloak ...

well i can see why u face palmed then, lol. Yea i will go solo on gold later when the Operation Ballistic begins. So many use the ppr or the reegar, which does alot better

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Slap AP ammo 4 an AR amp 3 on the Typhoon and watch it kill things. Don't have those things? It becomes pretty subpar compared to other URs like the PPR and Harrier. It is also quite limited in its optimal use to certain kits because of its weight and recoil.

It's a great video, but I've seen a PPR/Harrier take down an Atlas at pretty much the same rate with that high level equipment on. Sure the Harrier runs out of ammo a lot faster but any kit can pretty much use it effectively. I'm pretty sure I've seen Destroyers blow **** up at nearly the same rate with a Revenant X and top equipment back when the Earth DLC came out and not many people had the Typhoon.

Fun video, though. :)

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i remember what the gun used to be like.
Someone said that at lvX it does less damage than LV1 pre-nerf. I just cant get over that.

nice vid though.

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dumdum2 wrote...

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The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.


Can't it be that the FPS is higher on PC which means a lot more bullets will actually do damage to the target? From what I understand enemies can kill you easier when you have high FPS since their "accuracy" increases from it, and from what I understand the same is true when a player is shooting at an enemy?

This has been a statement for a long time here on this forum, that enemies are tougher on PC because of 60 FPS while on console we are stuck with something like 30 FPS (I think).

So by this logic, could it be true that weapons such as the Typhoon or the Harrier would deal more damage on PC than on console?

 

That's a negative. Framerate/processing power determines enemy AI functions and accuracy. Not hit detection on enemies.

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Kalas321 wrote...

i remember what the gun used to be like.
Someone said that at lvX it does less damage than LV1 pre-nerf. I just cant get over that.

nice vid though.


It was over-nerfed, I'd say. The Destroyer was perhaps too good at release and its primary weapons the Typhoon and Piranha got neutered to punish it. BW should take it as a lesson in how to properly respond to power creep.

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If you think the typhoon sucks, watching a video of a competent player do well with it should not change your mind, the gun will probably still suck when you use it.

Self promotion at its finest yet again.

 

Oh shut up. -_--_--_-

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Lord_Sirian wrote...
That's a negative. Framerate/processing power determines enemy AI functions and accuracy. Not hit detection on enemies.


Hmm, I heard that it works both ways. How would it work only on the enemies but not on the players?

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dumdum2 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
That's a negative. Framerate/processing power determines enemy AI functions and accuracy. Not hit detection on enemies.


Hmm, I heard that it works both ways. How would it work only on the enemies but not on the players?

 

Because that's not how the engine works.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
The guns don't do any more damage on PC than they do on ecks bawks.


Can't it be that the FPS is higher on PC which means a lot more bullets will actually do damage to the target? From what I understand enemies can kill you easier when you have high FPS since their "accuracy" increases from it, and from what I understand the same is true when a player is shooting at an enemy?

This has been a statement for a long time here on this forum, that enemies are tougher on PC because of 60 FPS while on console we are stuck with something like 30 FPS (I think).

So by this logic, could it be true that weapons such as the Typhoon or the Harrier would deal more damage on PC than on console?

 

That's a negative. Framerate/processing power determines enemy AI functions and accuracy. Not hit detection on enemies.

not for normal guns. I thought I read somewhere that peddro&crew suspect the framerate hampers the Reegar dps, but that's about 133 hits per second, only 10 for the Brophoon.