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[Deerber]

viruz777 wrote...

OP I hate to be the bringer of bad news but just to give you a reality check, showing how 'strong' a weapon is on gold is really irrelevant. Trying to ridicule the majority of BSNers who obviously have been debating alot about this weapon's strengths and weaknesses makes you look even worst considering the difficulty you're playing.

Go play platinum, then bring your points to the table.

LOL! People saying L2play to Feneckus! 

[upinya slayin]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Right cause BW made different AI engines for console then for PC. is there a crazy smiley?
The AI is the same, You even admittied yourself that its all due to how god of a computer is.

 

You know an xbox is a computer as well right? Framerate is capped at 30 = dumber AI than 60. Can't explain it more simply than that.

cause framerate = AI? right.

[spudspot]

upinya slayin wrote...

cause framerate = AI? right. 

No, because there is a reason consoles will only give you 30fps. It's called processing power. Which might have something to do with how accurate the AI can be. Just a wild guess.

[ryoldschool]

mrwizeguy wrote...

PS3 video typhoon X vs Atlas.

www.youtube.com/watch

2 atlas killed , first 57 rounds left in clip second 89.

edit , just saw second had half shields

what was your exact setup? same as to?

[Shezo]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Right cause BW made different AI engines for console then for PC. is there a crazy smiley?
The AI is the same, You even admittied yourself that its all due to how god of a computer is.

 

You know an xbox is a computer as well right? Framerate is capped at 30 = dumber AI than 60. Can't explain it more simply than that.

cause framerate = AI? right.

 

Framerate = processing power which determines AI accuracy.

Lmao.
Thanks for the good laugh.

[Blue Face Beast]

I actually love using the Typhoon with my Turian Sentinel.

I specced my sentinel for weapon dmg and stability. Then i maxed out his tech armor for resistance and give him 4 ranks of hp/shields. I splitted the remaining points into Overload and Warp, specced for single target dmg.

So depending of what kind of boss i attack, i open with either overload or warp and then unload my clip on them. Everything else which is not a boss is long dead before i empty a clip.

It is only a Typhoon 2 mind you and i gear it with the xtra rounds and the -90% Armor item. It works great.

[UnknownMercenary]

I'm surprised none of them have accused Feneckus of purposely playing with hosts who have bad computers...

[Zjarcal]

Deerber wrote...

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

Eh, that wasn't a completely fair comparison to be honest since Feneckus was using Incendiary ammo on the PPR and he almost killed the Atlas before even letting the Incendiary DOT kick in. Should've been using AP ammo to really showcase how fast it could kill the Atlas, or stop shooting earlier so that the DOT could've done all of its damage.

On topic, I've said it before on other threads, Brophoon is awesomesauce and anyone that says it sucks is a moron. However I still support a small buff so that it can be undisputedly better at boss killing than both the PPR and the Hurricane.

EDIT: Holy crap this thread got big...

INVADERONE wrote...

 Gun is still underwhelming...I used it the other day on Platinum and Gold..... I cried. They were like baby tears....I swear a Prime stopped shooting.....he even stopped casting turrets and just walked over to me and said..."really"? I just took my sorry behind home after that and placed the Typhoon back the storage locker where it gains dust respectively.

Here's a video by the way of the enemies that truly do hate the Typhoon's OP'ness.
youtu.be/iTzShv3Albo

You keep making a bigger fool of yourself with every post you make.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 25 janvier 2013 - 07:07 .

[Crimson Vanguard]

Yay Destroyer with AP round IV and mad skills. No weapon is bad lol. To be honest I can kill an Atlas faster than that with a Raider/Harrier/Reegar/CSR/Claymore/Javelin/BW

[BridgeBurner]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I'm surprised none of them have accused Feneckus of purposely playing with hosts who have bad computers...

Haha, this x1000.

[MajorStupidity]

The Typhoon still kicks ass, but I do agree it needs a buff considering the PPR at the same level provides better damage, perfect accuracy, and infinite ammo for less weight.

*edit* was reading through the thread... how did this become a console vs. PC argument?

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 25 janvier 2013 - 07:09 .

[UKStory135]

MajorStupidity wrote...

The Typhoon still kicks ass, but I do agree it needs a buff considering the PPR at the same level provides better damage, perfect accuracy, and infinite ammo for less weight.

This. The Typhoon is the third best AR, but there is no reason to choose it over the PPR, which is the second best. 

[Deerber]

Zjarcal wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

Eh, that wasn't a completely fair comparison to be honest since Feneckus was using Incendiary ammo on the PPR and he almost killed the Atlas before even letting the Incendiary DOT kick in. Should've been using AP ammo to really showcase how fast it could kill the Atlas, or stop shooting earlier so that the DOT could've done all of its damage.

On topic, I've said it before on other threads, Brophoon is awesomesauce and anyone that says it sucks is a moron. However I still support a small buff so that it can be undisputedly better at boss killing than both the PPR and the Hurricane.

I see, thanks for pointing that out, I haven't seen that video in a while.

I also agree pretty much 100% with your point of view.

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I'm surprised none of them have accused Feneckus of purposely playing with hosts who have bad computers...

Lol. Someone told him he should l2play, though! 

[mrwizeguy]

ryoldschool wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

PS3 video typhoon X vs Atlas.

www.youtube.com/watch

2 atlas killed , first 57 rounds left in clip second 89.

edit , just saw second had half shields

what was your exact setup? same as to?

same as fenekus.
DM all bottom full waepon passives with hs damage.
AP4 , AR gear V , AR amp 3 and stability 3

[Tybo]

Zjarcal wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

Eh, that wasn't a completely fair comparison to be honest since Feneckus was using Incendiary ammo on the PPR and he almost killed the Atlas before even letting the Incendiary DOT kick in. Should've been using AP ammo to really showcase how fast it could kill the Atlas, or stop shooting earlier so that the DOT could've done all of its damage.

On topic, I've said it before on other threads, Brophoon is awesomesauce and anyone that says it sucks is a moron. However I still support a small buff so that it can be undisputedly better at boss killing than both the PPR and the Hurricane.

EDIT: Holy crap this thread got big...

A) Incendiary DOT is always ticking.  Stopping shooting won't make the DOT any better.  Each time you shoot, you simply add to the ticks.  E.g., it starts at 1, you shoot again, it hits 2, shoot again, it hits 3.  This whole time, the Incendiary DOT is hitting the enemy, the amount just increases every time you hit it.  Then, when you stop shooting, it will continue to tick at whatever you left it at for 3 seconds.

For example, If you fire 5 times, the DOT ticks would be something like:
1 2 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 (DOT ticks every half second, so 6 ticks)

If you fire 10 times, it will look like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 

So you don't do any extra damage by stopping shooting, you just conserve ammo.

 On Topic:  The PPR and Typhoon similar mag sizes and both consume 2 ammo per shot on ramp.  Unmodified DPS numbers ramped up are 1376 for the PPR and 1249 for the Typhoon(on protections).  The Typhoon ramps up in 2 stages, damage up at .75 s and RoF up at 1.5 s.  The PPR is simple, with a damage up at 2 s.  PPR also has much better accuracy, but is punished by its lack of ammo.  It takes much longer (~4.3 seconds) to recharge, and even using a thermal clip pack will only decrease this time by 1 second.

Overall, the PPR is a bit better imo.  But the Typhoon really isn't too far behind, and is better in desperate situations or with free reloads, since you can thermal clip or AR/Marksman it.

Modifié par tyhw, 25 janvier 2013 - 07:16 .

[Zjarcal]

tyhw wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

Eh, that wasn't a completely fair comparison to be honest since Feneckus was using Incendiary ammo on the PPR and he almost killed the Atlas before even letting the Incendiary DOT kick in. Should've been using AP ammo to really showcase how fast it could kill the Atlas, or stop shooting earlier so that the DOT could've done all of its damage.

On topic, I've said it before on other threads, Brophoon is awesomesauce and anyone that says it sucks is a moron. However I still support a small buff so that it can be undisputedly better at boss killing than both the PPR and the Hurricane.

EDIT: Holy crap this thread got big...

A) Incendiary DOT is always ticking.  Stopping shooting won't make the DOT any better.  Each time you shoot, you simply add to the ticks.  E.g., it starts at 1, you shoot again, it hits 2, shoot again, it hits 3.  This whole time, the Incendiary DOT is hitting the enemy, the amount just increases every time you hit it.  Then, when you stop shooting, it will continue to tick at whatever you left it at for 3 seconds.

For example, If you fire 5 times, the DOT ticks would be something like:
1 2 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 (DOT ticks every half second, so 6 ticks)

If you fire 10 times, it will look like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 

So you don't do any extra damage by stopping shooting, you just conserve ammo.

 On Topic:  The PPR and Typhoon similar mag sizes and both consume 2 ammo per shot on ramp.  Unmodified DPS numbers ramped up are 1376 for the PPR and 1249 for the Typhoon(on protections).  The Typhoon ramps up in 2 stages, damage up at .75 s and RoF up at 1.5 s.  The PPR is simple, with a damage up at 2 s.  PPR also has much better accuracy, but is punished by its lack of ammo.  It takes much longer (~4.3 seconds) to recharge, and even using a thermal clip pack will only decrease this time by 1 second.

Overall, the PPR is a bit better imo.  But the Typhoon really isn't too far behind, and is better in desperate situations or with free reloads, since you can thermal clip or AR/Marksman it.

Hmm, that I didn't know, although I do recall Peddroelmz saying you needed to stop shooting for it to work. He actually posted in that original thread from Feneckus to call him out on that.

BUT, I will take your word on this. Thanks for the info.

[AaronEh]

tyhw wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Also, I'd like to see evidence from people who claim the PPR does more damage. Cause as Feneckus showed in another vid (pre-nerf on the destroyer though), that might very well be false.

Eh, that wasn't a completely fair comparison to be honest since Feneckus was using Incendiary ammo on the PPR and he almost killed the Atlas before even letting the Incendiary DOT kick in. Should've been using AP ammo to really showcase how fast it could kill the Atlas, or stop shooting earlier so that the DOT could've done all of its damage.

On topic, I've said it before on other threads, Brophoon is awesomesauce and anyone that says it sucks is a moron. However I still support a small buff so that it can be undisputedly better at boss killing than both the PPR and the Hurricane.

EDIT: Holy crap this thread got big...

A) Incendiary DOT is always ticking.  Stopping shooting won't make the DOT any better.  Each time you shoot, you simply add to the ticks.  E.g., it starts at 1, you shoot again, it hits 2, shoot again, it hits 3.  This whole time, the Incendiary DOT is hitting the enemy, the amount just increases every time you hit it.  Then, when you stop shooting, it will continue to tick at whatever you left it at for 3 seconds.

For example, If you fire 5 times, the DOT ticks would be something like:
1 2 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 (DOT ticks every half second, so 6 ticks)

If you fire 10 times, it will look like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 

So you don't do any extra damage by stopping shooting, you just conserve ammo.

 On Topic:  The PPR and Typhoon similar mag sizes and both consume 2 ammo per shot on ramp.  Unmodified DPS numbers ramped up are 1376 for the PPR and 1249 for the Typhoon(on protections).  The Typhoon ramps up in 2 stages, damage up at .75 s and RoF up at 1.5 s.  The PPR is simple, with a damage up at 2 s.  PPR also has much better accuracy, but is punished by its lack of ammo.  It takes much longer (~4.3 seconds) to recharge, and even using a thermal clip pack will only decrease this time by 1 second.

Overall, the PPR is a bit better imo.  But the Typhoon really isn't too far behind, and is better in desperate situations or with free reloads, since you can thermal clip or AR/Marksman it.

Peddro noted that the Incendiary Ammo power stacks while you shoot and the DoT starts ticking when you stop shooting.  Is that incorrect now?

Modifié par AaronEh, 25 janvier 2013 - 07:32 .

[Tybo]

Maybe I misinterpreted his numbers. I'll check back on his incendiary data logs and see

[AaronEh]

tyhw wrote...

Maybe I misinterpreted his numbers. I'll check back on his incendiary data logs and see

Thread here:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/14033200/

[Tybo]

Ok, looked back. On his incendiary tests, the DOT tick still happens while increasing. I'm fairly confident my interpretation is correct, unless there is some other complication I'm unaware of.

Unless the man himself contradicts me, I'd say I think my interpretation is correct.

Modifié par tyhw, 25 janvier 2013 - 07:37 .