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[CHRrOME]

xBUMMx wrote...

CHRrOME wrote...

Personally I don't give a single **** about lore in MP anymore. It may broke the ME universe because Protheans were supposedly wiped out by the Reapers as we all know. But In the other hand, we have Javik. If one Prothean survived possibly others survived too.

It's up to Biower. In my experience: if it's fun, go ahead. I hope they don't care that much about lore in the future ME [Insert title or number here], so we can have a more interesting and funny game without storyline limitations.

Mass Effect is nothing without story. Too many video games nowadays completely ignore the fact that video games are quite possibly the best story telling medium of the modern day. I get that they are primarily meant for fun, but I still believe that The Walking Dead is one the very best games ever made, and all you did was click at things and make decisions.

Yes, of course. But in MP you don't need too much story. Multiplayer is just about playing and having fun. At least thats my opinion, but I get your point.

[Invader Nemesis]

Annomander wrote...

Face it OP, including protheans is a silly idea and is never going to happen.

And no number of posts on the about the topic will change that.

And adding the volus wasn't?

[Kalas Magnus]

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Face it OP, including protheans is a silly idea and is never going to happen.

And no number of posts on the about the topic will change that.

And adding the volus wasn't?

volus are from this cycle. The protheans arent. 

OT: I would play him/her if she/he is better than the GI. Cant say no to a powerful kit.

Modifié par Kalas321, 25 janvier 2013 - 10:18 .

[Invader Nemesis]

Kalas321 wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Face it OP, including protheans is a silly idea and is never going to happen.

And no number of posts on the about the topic will change that.

And adding the volus wasn't?

volus are from this cycle. The protheans arent. 

I know this. I've played all 3 games. I'm on the fence when it comes to adding protheans really. With all contraversy it may cause I honestly don't see them being added.

[DullahansXMark]

CHRrOME wrote...

xBUMMx wrote...

CHRrOME wrote...

Personally I don't give a single **** about lore in MP anymore. It may broke the ME universe because Protheans were supposedly wiped out by the Reapers as we all know. But In the other hand, we have Javik. If one Prothean survived possibly others survived too.

It's up to Biower. In my experience: if it's fun, go ahead. I hope they don't care that much about lore in the future ME [Insert title or number here], so we can have a more interesting and funny game without storyline limitations.

Mass Effect is nothing without story. Too many video games nowadays completely ignore the fact that video games are quite possibly the best story telling medium of the modern day. I get that they are primarily meant for fun, but I still believe that The Walking Dead is one the very best games ever made, and all you did was click at things and make decisions.

Yes, of course. But in MP you don't need too much story. Multiplayer is just about playing and having fun. At least thats my opinion, but I get your point.

MP is based directly on Mass Effect 3's storyline, which is the war against the Reapers. Some elements had to be played with (the kind that make a Vorcha fighting Geth on Thessia possible), but it's still based directly in the war.

There is a story, and this does tie in with Mass Effect 3's singleplayer. While MP is there simply to be fun, it also gives us an inside look at what the Reapers have done to the galaxy.

I'm all for fun just as much as the next guy, but the Protheans are the symbol of failure in this series. Seeing an entire militia (yes it would have to be more than 4. MP deaths are more or less "canon", and if a Prothean died, that leaves only 3 left. Eventually you're gonna run out. so you have to avoid small numbers) of Protheans show up to fight the war destroys one of the pillars that holds the story up.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

I don't think it'd be 24/7, but I'd definitely play with them a few times. It'd just be the day that BW cut the SP/MP connection, is all. Wouldn't make sense otherwise, no matter how they're included.

What would ****** me off is if they included Prothean kits and no Geth Sentinel. It'd probably be my first ban.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 28 janvier 2013 - 04:55 .

[Sabbatine]

ManRightChea wrote...

If we go with the stasis pod argument, you are telling me there is a power source even in this advanced of a future, that can sustain life function for 50,000 years? If Protheans were actively procreating and living in societies this long to have lived the 50,000 years through normal birth and death, how has it gone unnoticed for this long?

If you played Mass Effect 3 the answer to your first question is obvious. Yes there is a power source that can sustain life function for 50,000 years. If there was not, then Javik would not be a recruitable companion.

We do not know how many more facilities there are out there, what sort of backup systems they might have had, or what state of disrepair they are in. It would be very easy to explain why a handful of protheans suddenly appear.

Also, as others have pointed out, the Reapers are profoundly stupid as we learned in the endings, especially the control ending. There is no way their search would have discovered all of the prothean facilities.

The protheans were far more intelligent than the reapers even approached given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved... well realistically, the protheans DID defeat the reapers considering the council races basically had nothing until they found the prothean plans. If they were capable of that, they were capable of hiding a enough facilities that they wouldn't all be found.

[Clayless]

Sabbatine wrote...

given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved

No they never.

[xBUMMx]

Robosexual wrote...

Sabbatine wrote...

given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved

No they never.

srsly

protheans didn't even make the crucible plans.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

Sabbatine wrote...
The protheans were far more intelligent than the reapers even approached given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved... well realistically, the protheans DID defeat the reapers considering the council races basically had nothing until they found the prothean plans. If they were capable of that, they were capable of hiding a enough facilities that they wouldn't all be found.

What are the chances of us finding them then? I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying it's not possible for us to find more and not ruin Javik's character, cheapen the Reapers as an enemy, and ruin the mysteriousness of the Protheans and the example they represented.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 26 janvier 2013 - 01:45 .

[RaptorSolutions]

Kalas321 wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Face it OP, including protheans is a silly idea and is never going to happen.

And no number of posts on the about the topic will change that.

And adding the volus wasn't?

volus are from this cycle. The protheans arent. 

OT: I would play him/her if she/he is better than the GI. Cant say no to a powerful kit.

Same, thats why bioware needs to control me by not including protheans. Otherwise I'll play anything fun even if lore-breaking, although I do care about lore...

We'll burn for this. 

[RaptorSolutions]

Sabbatine wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

If we go with the stasis pod argument, you are telling me there is a power source even in this advanced of a future, that can sustain life function for 50,000 years? If Protheans were actively procreating and living in societies this long to have lived the 50,000 years through normal birth and death, how has it gone unnoticed for this long?

If you played Mass Effect 3 the answer to your first question is obvious. Yes there is a power source that can sustain life function for 50,000 years. If there was not, then Javik would not be a recruitable companion.

We do not know how many more facilities there are out there, what sort of backup systems they might have had, or what state of disrepair they are in. It would be very easy to explain why a handful of protheans suddenly appear.

Also, as others have pointed out, the Reapers are profoundly stupid as we learned in the endings, especially the control ending. There is no way their search would have discovered all of the prothean facilities.

The protheans were far more intelligent than the reapers even approached given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved... well realistically, the protheans DID defeat the reapers considering the council races basically had nothing until they found the prothean plans. If they were capable of that, they were capable of hiding a enough facilities that they wouldn't all be found.

Wait a minute... Where exactly was it even implied that the protheans were even within a few light years of defeating the reapers...

[DJ Airsurfer]

Blah blah lore breaking blah blah ruins Javik's character.

No.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I hope the Prothean Infiltrator has TC, Hunter Mode & Proximity Mine (green ones). He will be the best kit ever.

[xBUMMx]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Blah blah lore breaking blah blah ruins Javik's character.

No.

is this a no to the addition of protheanz, or a no to the mentioned arguements?

[scoopapa1]

I think it would be silly to add Protheans, and I would probably play the sh** out of them.

So yes.

When you really think about it the game is pretty cartoonish, anyway.

[Zerker]

Sabbatine wrote...
The protheans were far more intelligent than the reapers even approached given that they nearly defeated the reapers despite being a few billion years less evolved...

They were nowhere near intelligent as them, you are comparing an organic species to the most advanced AI constructs in the Mass Effect series.
They didn't even get close to defeating the invasion either, go listen to the hologram on Ilos again. The whole Prothean Empire was crushed during the initial Reaper wave, remnants scattered across the Galaxy and managed to stay alive for a few hundred years, hiding. Their only "worthy" accomplishment was delaying the next harvest by messing with the Keeper signal, survivors died out after.

Sabbatine wrote.
 well realistically, the protheans DID defeat the reapers considering the council races basically had nothing until they found the prothean plans. If they were capable of that, they were capable of hiding a enough facilities that they wouldn't all be found.

The plans were found in a Prothean ruin, they were not Prothean in origin. After the Cerberus Base mission, Prothean VI tells you the blueprints of Crucible precede the Prothean species, its original creators are unknown; but every galactic civilization makes additions to it before being harvested, improving it for the next cycle. Protheans were just the last ones.

Modifié par Maddok900, 26 janvier 2013 - 02:41 .

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Can you imagine how pissed everyone would be if they actually did add Protheans... and then gave them the exact same powers as the Volus kits?

I don't think I'd be able to stop laughing long enough to get a game in

[oO Stryfe Oo]

xBUMMx wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Blah blah lore breaking blah blah ruins Javik's character.

No.

is this a no to the addition of protheanz, or a no to the mentioned arguements?

This is "I don't care about anything in the story. I just want my Prothean kits".

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 26 janvier 2013 - 04:27 .

[Blarg]

You guys realize that we're talking about MP, right? I get that some of you have played very few other multiplayer shooters, but jeez, MP really doesn't have to be tied to SP beyond the Galactic Readiness rating.

Now, I'm not saying "screw lore". I value lore, but MP's already stretched it quite a bit, so I don't care either way.
Now let's just step back and stop bickering over this, shall we?

[oO Stryfe Oo]

I'll do this when BW comes out with a statement that reads anything like "the MP aspect of our title is no longer bound by the story of SP" or releases a Prothean kit (since that's pretty much saying the same thing). Until then, that tie between SP and MP is what limits our character choices, so no characters from species that weren't part of the Reaper War.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 26 janvier 2013 - 05:03 .

[Silvair]

They aren't a quarian, so I really couldn't care less.

I'd make a point to never revive em when teaming with em, though, like I do for Volus.

Because jamaican space bugs are stupid.

[Talhydras]

I loathe the Prothean design so much, and I have so many other incredibly powerful classes, that I can conclusively say I would never even stat out a Prothean. So nope! Don't use their rifle either even though I've got it, for the same reason. I don't play the Kai Lame ripoff Slayer any either, nor do I play Drells. I don't need to interfere with anyone else using slayers or drells, and though protheans are on another level of awfulness I suppose I wouldn't be opposed to other folks playing them - but OP, I personally wouldn't unless they turned to Rachni a second into every match. Then yeah, I'd be all over it for a while and add it to my list of regulars.

[Nitrocuban]

The whining and nay-saying is the same as it was with the Volus and yet Protheans will be added.
The cycle continues.

[InTheZone]

Nitrocuban wrote...

The whining and nay-saying is the same as it was with the Volus and yet Protheans will be added.
The cycle continues.

True enough. You cannot stop the inevitable.