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[CptPatch]

We know from the Romance cutscenes that the various that the three main races can, indeed, have sex with one another.  In fact "men" and "women" can apply to _any_ race, rather than putting an emphasis on "Elvish men" or "Dwarven women".  It seems obvious that the genetic stock is at least close enough to yield viable offspring between mixed matches.  They're at least as close to one another as lions and tigers (= liger), or horses and donkeys (= mules).

So, where are the half-breeds?  (No derogatory intent.)

I can understand that adding half-breeds to the available character selection would have added a LOT more programming to the initial product, so understandably they were left out.  That's cool; I can cope with that.  But why aren't there any half-breeds to be encountered in Ferelden?  If the party members are freely jumping into each others' beds regardless of disparate racial backgrounds, then it should be happening pretty much everywhere.

If we occasionally encountered half-breeds in this game, it might be hoped that in future sequels the half-breed category would open up to character creation.  But now, having traversed the length and breadth of Ferelden, if we _do_ encounter a half-breed anything in DLC content or a sequel, it will come across as a shocking new development.

[Rhanne]

i do know that if an elf mated w/ a human, it yields a human child.so there will not be any half elves.

[Sloth Of Doom]

According to in-game lore the elven phenotype does not breed true when crossed with that of other races. Therefore the offspring of a human and an elf has a purely human genetic structure.



The only reason you expect half-races is the common D&D-centric thinking that so many forum goers seem to have.

[.Raven.rpg]

what

like mix of sexy darkspawn girl and dwarven commander

[CptPatch]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

According to in-game lore the elven phenotype does not breed true when crossed with that of other races. Therefore the offspring of a human and an elf has a purely human genetic structure.

The only reason you expect half-races is the common D&D-centric thinking that so many forum goers seem to have.

Not really.  I think it probable because of how Genetics works.  When you mix two distinct, but similar species, there is always some characteristics that carry over from both parents.

The game does, in fact, start to delve into the results of mixing species.  You see it with.... Rats; that's SPOILER info.

Anyway, there _are_ some mixed species results that are distinctly different from either parent.

[Sloth Of Doom]

From the DA Wiki (Elves - History):

Elves in Ferelden are not immortal, but elven legends state that this was not always the case. Once, they say, they were immortal beings who lived in harmony with the natural world and followed the elven pantheon. The first "shem" (short for shemlen, a term meaning "quick children" that was used by the ancient elves to describe the humans) they encountered were the mages of the Tevinter Imperium. They traded with the Imperium and grew friendly with humans, but soon discovered that breeding with humans produced only human babies, due to
the elves' genetic adaptability, while exposure to the ‘quick children’ caused the elves to quicken themselves. For the first time, elves began to age and die.


Emphasis mine.

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 09 janvier 2010 - 02:32 .

[Eurypterid]

I admit that I'm relieved there are no half breeds in DA:O. I got rather tired of the laundry list of half-xxxx in D&D and have no wish to see it reiterated in the DA lore.

[darkdan-777]

It still would be cool to be a Elf/dwarf mage haha

[Sloth Of Doom]

darkdan-777 wrote...

It still would be cool to be a Elf/dwarf mage haha

Your definition of cool is remarkably similar to my definition of lame.

[Iris562]

You COULD always argue that the City Elves are "Half-Elves", but that would just be a stereotype, rather than an actual genetic archetype.

[ushae]

Agreed I like the concept of a certain races having dominant or recessive phenotypes when passing on their genes, makes more sense. Rather than a perfect in the middle hybrid.

Does the same principle apply to dwarves and humans when it comes to dominance, or is a 50:50 thing ?

[Eurypterid]

That's bit harsh, SoD, but my sentiments are similar. I'd have perhaps chosen 'unsavory' as opposed to lame.

[Iris562]

darkdan-777 wrote...

It still would be cool to be a Elf/dwarf mage haha

Theres a reason why there are no Half Elf Half Dwarf races... It's called "Elves wouldn't boogey that way".

[darkdan-777]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

darkdan-777 wrote...

It still would be cool to be a Elf/dwarf mage haha

Your definition of cool is remarkably similar to my definition of lame.

you clearly have no sense of humour too much wow rots the brain 

[Sloth Of Doom]

Eurypterid wrote...

That's bit harsh, SoD, but my sentiments are similar. I'd have perhaps chosen 'unsavory' as opposed to lame.

Yeah, but you have to be nice, you have a fancy blue lable.   I have to be a dick because it keeps my inbox full of ineptly structured messages that contain more cursewords than a dockside bar in Boston.

[Iris562]

To tag on my prievious comment, that wasnt a jab at the dwarves per sey, more of a Elves have always seemed very picky when it comes to traditions and looks and romance; I mean hey, if an elf wants a dwarf to be the father/mother of his/her kid, that's their choice. xD Just nothing I've seen in fantasy or anything would lead me to believe Elves mating outside of other Elves, with the occasional Human exception.

[darkdan-777]

Iris562 wrote...

darkdan-777 wrote...

It still would be cool to be a Elf/dwarf mage haha

Theres a reason why there are no Half Elf Half Dwarf races... It's called "Elves wouldn't boogey that way".

Thank the maker for ALE 

[Iris562]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

That's bit harsh, SoD, but my sentiments are similar. I'd have perhaps chosen 'unsavory' as opposed to lame.

Yeah, but you have to be nice, you have a fancy blue lable.   I have to be a dick because it keeps my inbox full of ineptly structured messages that contain more cursewords than a dockside bar in Boston.

Hehe, just recently I got some mail like that accusing me of using my Opinions as Facts, when I clearly stated they were just opinions. xD

[Sloth Of Doom]

ushae wrote...

Agreed I like the concept of a certain races having dominant or recessive phenotypes when passing on their genes, makes more sense. Rather than a perfect in the middle hybrid.
Does the same principle apply to dwarves and humans when it comes to dominance, or is a 50:50 thing ?

I haven't seen anything in game or the books that mention a dwarven/human cross.  It is quite possible that the produce no children at all.   Just because you can have sex with it doesn't mean it can have your baby, thank the Maker.

[Iris562]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

ushae wrote...

Agreed I like the concept of a certain races having dominant or recessive phenotypes when passing on their genes, makes more sense. Rather than a perfect in the middle hybrid.
Does the same principle apply to dwarves and humans when it comes to dominance, or is a 50:50 thing ?

I haven't seen anything in game or the books that mention a dwarven/human cross.  It is quite possible that the produce no children at all.   Just because you can have sex with it doesn't mean it can have your baby, thank the Maker.

Same thing happens in real-life too, hence why we haven't seen TOO many Liger's running amok. xD

[addiction21]

Bad joke my apologies.

Modifié par addiction21, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:06 .

[gamefemme]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...


I haven't seen anything in game or the books that mention a dwarven/human cross.  It is quite possible that the produce no children at all.   Just because you can have sex with it doesn't mean it can have your baby, thank the Maker.

or maybe the offspring are sterile, like donkeys, and they don't reproduce, so maybe they are out there, but you don't know it, like, "hey, that short guy looks kindof dwarven".

Modifié par gamefemme, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:03 .

[Demonic Spoon]

I forget where, but I'm pretty sure I saw that dwarves and humans cannot produce an offspring.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Iris562 wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

ushae wrote...

Agreed I like the concept of a certain races having dominant or recessive phenotypes when passing on their genes, makes more sense. Rather than a perfect in the middle hybrid.
Does the same principle apply to dwarves and humans when it comes to dominance, or is a 50:50 thing ?

I haven't seen anything in game or the books that mention a dwarven/human cross.  It is quite possible that the produce no children at all.   Just because you can have sex with it doesn't mean it can have your baby, thank the Maker.

Same thing happens in real-life too, hence why we haven't seen TOO many Liger's running amok. xD

The Liger actually exists.  I crap you not.  Panthera leo and Panthera tigris are of the same genus and can produce offspring.  The earliest known records of a natural Liger birth go back to 1799.  

There are actualy Tigons too, but they are much less common (and smaller)

Biologists that find this interesting may wish to read about  growth dysplasia in hybrid big cats, but I doubt it

How is THAT for derailing this thead? :innocent:

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:05 .

[lisakover]

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