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[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Geth purely because they are a bunch of cheats.

[Flambrose]

With a Phantom/Dragoon counter? Collectors.

On most classes? Cerberus.

Modifié par Flambrose, 26 janvier 2013 - 02:33 .

[Theghostof_timmy]

Collectors, all the way. To anybody saying geth, DullahansXmark said it first, and I'll say it again: use certain classes, and the geth are garbage.

I'll use a comparison: some people have extreme difficulty with Phantoms, others complain they are too easy. They say there are tons of things that trivialize phantoms: the GPS, stasis and whatnot. And they are absolutely right. With certain weapons and/or powers, phantoms are a joke. The geth are sort of like that, except instead of trivializing one unit, you trivialize the ENTIRE FACTION. Paladins, krogan, batarians, and tech classes in general just tell the geth where to shove their stunlock. The near invincibility of Kroguards against geth is only the most egregious example.

Now move to collectors. If they have a weakness, it's to headshots, since their heads are so big. In return for that minor weakness, almost their entire faction can cover-bust, vanguards (melee vanguards in particular) are almost useless, powers are negated, and they just straight up have ridiculous DPS. There is nothing you can do to make collectors easy; there's a reason nobody farms them. So, Geth are the second easiest faction (besides reapers- oh how the mighty have fallen) and Collectors are the hardest.

[J0HNL3I]

Collectors but their also the most fun to fight. The stunlock army Geth are close second.

[Ramsutin]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Geth, no contest.

[GriM_AoD]

Depends on the kit being used.

Phantoms/Dragoons can be a pain
Geth can decide to stun you into oblivion for the lulz
Collectors have praetorians/scions and the trooper/captains annihilate you when shields are down.
Reapers... just the odd banshee grab

I wouldn't say any faction is notably more difficult than the others. But I think it's safe to say Reapers are the easiest at the mo.

[FlowCytometry]

Collectors by far. They are over-tuned in practically every way- speed, damage, accuracy, possession rates, health/barrier/armor amounts, shield regen delays, power lockout times, seeker summon frequencies, speed of successive attacks (posses scion cluster -> cannon combo, preatorian melee to vacuum grab, trooper's extremely short execute delay), etc. Perhaps if they were budgeted much higher per unit, they'd be more balanced (so killing swarms deplete budget, no more than 2 scions at a time on the feild, etc), but not as is.

Geth after that- but as others said, only in fake difficulty. Take away the stuns/staggers and they are the simplest faction to deal with. Then Cerb, then Reapers.

[FasterThanFTL]

Lag: Cerberus
No Lag: None

[N7 Banshee Bait]

Collector swarms cancel out my Shadow Strike & Electric slash leaving me wide open.. They totally screw everything up.

Modifié par Steelgrave, 26 janvier 2013 - 02:49 .

[DeadeyeIII]

Simon_Wryly wrote...

I hate Geth. I hate Hunters, and Bombers, and Pyros, and... I hate Geth. Are they the hardest? No, I usually have a tougher time with Collectors, but I'd rather fight them than the Geth. Cuz, man... I hate Geth.

what he said

[Swan Killer]

Stardusk wrote...

Hun_Farkasfalka wrote...

Collectors no doubt about that. Large open maps with limited cover benefit that faction even more. Yes im talking about you Rio and London. Potshots cross map with scion grenade clusters is not a pleasent thing.

Hungarian wolf something?

Hungarian Wolfpack 

OT: Collector units are sooo huuuge! You can't miss a Praetorian. You can safely take down a Scion, but it even easier if you get up close, because they're clumsy as ****. The Troopers...headshots everywhere! Abominationts are kinda annoying, but they have low health. 
On Platinum there's a good reason that experienced players target the Primes first. Their turrets can wipe out a time in a one fireburst! Their drones stagger! They stunlock the **** out of you with their three-shot cannon. You can hide from a Scion or a Praetorian if you know your way around, but if there's a Prime around, he'll cast a turret in your ass, and a drone for the lulz, and then finish you off with its cannon. If you're still not dead, the Pyros will make sure, that even if you gel, you get "insta-killed". 

Modifié par tivesz, 26 janvier 2013 - 03:15 .

[Influ]

Lollectors by far. Scion stagger cannons and grenades of doom, Praetorian buttlazors, frakkin' bees and throw in a few mooks with hilariously high burst damage.

Honorable mention to Derberus with Phantoms and Atlases sniping you through cover/walls due to lag.

[Rickk]

Simon_Wryly wrote...

I hate Geth. I hate Hunters, and Bombers, and Pyros, and... I hate Geth. Are they the hardest? No, I usually have a tougher time with Collectors, but I'd rather fight them than the Geth. Cuz, man... I hate Geth.

[Disciple888]

Ramsutin wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Geth, no contest.

[vonSlash]

Collectors, due to needlessly high Praetorian speed and needlessly high Scion hitpoints.

[Draining Dragon]

Yes.

[PseudoSystem]

Collectors are difficult, yes. They are, however, fair.

Geth are not fair.

No matter what difficulty you play on, you get the same experience with them. Stunlock-Ops Pack-Death (w/ glowing corpse)-Medigel-Stunlock-Death. The cheapness is highlighted the best in Bronze difficulty, where the lower damage allows for full stunlock glory. That is, you get juggled three times before dying instead of the single juggle that happens in Gold. It is a common misconception that geth have no insta-kill. Stunlock is Magnet Hands with range.

The cheapest unit in the game, however is not a Geth unit. The cheapest unit in the game is the phantom.

Modifié par PseudoSystem, 26 janvier 2013 - 03:45 .

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Collectors, easily. I don't care what that BW guy said about the Geth having the highest DPS of all factions, no faction has the ability to deliver damage like the Collectors. For the most part, they seem a bit squishy to me, but then they're faster than Cerberus and every one of their units poses a credible threat via possession. Collectors pretty much have everything.

OTOH, Collectors are probably my favorite faction.

[aruguren]

Collectors.

Can't stand on a place because the Scion will throw grenades. Then you run and the Collector Captain catches you. You survive, take another cover, a Swarn screw your powers. You look to the right, there is a Praetorian coming. You look to the left, two Possessed abominations are already close enough to be safely destroyed. You manage to take the Abominations, run away and then two Troopers and another Captain are already waiting for you.

I'M OUT!

[DarkOrgasm]

Collectors, hate them, although I did punish myself recently by doing 3-4 hours of solos against them to figure them out. Gold/Glacier/Collectors can be a nightmare as most know, but a recent match there with friends (U/U/G) we utterly destroyed them, which was a surprise, and I don't recall the makeup of the team we had then since we are always changing kits after each game.

But I think any of the factions can be difficult if you get a map you hate to play on and using the wrong/less than desirable kit along with bad objectives. (Looking at you Condor/London,etc)

[Tiby4u]

I'd go with collectors for their swarms, possessed units and high DPS that tears through the shield gate. But as stated numerous times on this thread, Geth are the cheapest for stunlocking and taking away your control.

[SKhalazza]

Collector > Geth > Cerberus > Reapers

[aruguren]

How did the other Cycles lose when Reapers are clearly the easiest?

[ebls]

IMO Geths. Geths are the most frustrating and annoying faction, whichever class you use. Even Infiltrators can easily be killed by Primes, Hunters and Rocket Troopers.

Collectors are hard, but with a good strategy you can avoid most of damage. They have big heads, excellent for headshots, and their units make a lot of noise (you can predict or realize a Preatorium coming).

Cerberus are hard just with classes you can't dodge, or if you don't bring a weapon able to stagger enemies (Phantoms and Dragons).

[Zkyire]

Collectors.