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[Doctor Trick]

Vlark wrote...

Tried it out.
Biotic Orbs 6A does NOT Prime, but does Detonate as usual.
Shockwave Lift Evolution DOES Prime with the same restrictions as LIFT.
Annihilation Field does Detonate in addition to own explosive effect when Deactivated (Thanks! Hadn't known)
Barrier actually DOES Prime (Same restrictions as LIFT) bot does NOT detonate.

Additionally you should add Phase Disruptor. It is a Biotic Skill that does Detonate but not Prime.

Phase Disruptor is actually a Combat Power, like Proxy Mine.

I couldn't get Barrier, we are talking about the same Barrier, the one on the Kroguard? I tried but I couldn't get it to work. I will test again with teh Shaman.

[justwantfreedlc]

Avoid using Disruptor Ammo ?

Shoot a Marauder, Centurion... with Disruptor Ammo to stun him. Use warp, he can't dodge and you trigger a techburst which strips his shields. Use Throw.

Sorry OP but ...

[Doctor Trick]

Vlark wrote...

Annihilation Field does not Detonate. And Barrier's a primer? Have to try this out.

I can't get Barrier to Prime anything. It lifts targets, it looks like they are primed but no explosions.

[FatalionPanic]

Doctor Trick wrote...
I can't get Barrier to Prime anything. It lifts targets, it looks like they are primed but no explosions.

I would FRAPS it for you but ME3 says I need an online pass and won't let me play at the moment. The heck.

 

[Doctor Trick]

justwantfreedlc wrote...

Avoid using Disruptor Ammo ?

Shoot a Marauder, Centurion... with Disruptor Ammo to stun him. Use warp, he can't dodge and you trigger a techburst which strips his shields. Use Throw.

Sorry OP but ...

You bring up a good point, I will add this to the 'more experienced' section. The only trouble with this is not all characters can do this. Characters without a power that both detonates and primes and a detonater can't pull this off.

Thanks, and again you did bring up a good point

[IllusiveManJr]

As an avid fan of the Krodept, Barrier can prime a single lifted target. It has a very short window to set off the BE, it needs to be extended slightly. I barely have time to toss a Warp at the lifted target before the lifted effect wears off. I'd say 1/3 times I just don't make it.

[Abraham_uk]

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Here is another thread that you might find helpful: Relix 28 Biotic and Elemental Combos.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:46 .

[Vlark]

FatalionPanic wrote...

Vlark wrote...

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Additionally you should add Phase Disruptor. It is a Biotic Skill that does Detonate but not Prime.

PD is a tech power that doesn't detonate BE's, it detonates tech explosions, though

This is Wrong. It does detonate Biotics.
Edith sagt: I am wrong sorry. It does NOT detonate Biotics.

Modifié par Vlark, 26 janvier 2013 - 01:05 .

[justwantfreedlc]

Doctor Trick wrote...

justwantfreedlc wrote...

Avoid using Disruptor Ammo ?

Shoot a Marauder, Centurion... with Disruptor Ammo to stun him. Use warp, he can't dodge and you trigger a techburst which strips his shields. Use Throw.

Sorry OP but ...

You bring up a good point, I will add this to the 'more experienced' section. The only trouble with this is not all characters can do this. Characters without a power that both detonates and primes and a detonater can't pull this off.

Thanks, and again you did bring up a good point

On chars like the DA or AJ i also prefer Warp Ammo.

[Doctor Trick]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

As an avid fan of the Krodept, Barrier can prime a single lifted target. It has a very short window to set off the BE, it needs to be extended slightly. I barely have time to toss a Warp at the lifted target before the lifted effect wears off. I'd say 1/3 times I just don't make it.

You can tell I am new with this testing thing, all my knwoledge of this comes from playing the game a lot

But it does indeed prime, like you said. The window is also very short. The only way I could get it to detonate with a Biotic Charge was to make sure the enemy would just float it a wall took about 20-25 tries to get 1 Biotic Explosion. However with Warp I had about a 90% success rate.

[IllusiveManJr]

Yeah, the window for detonation needs an extra second or two IMO.

[Abraham_uk]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Yeah, the window for detonation needs an extra second or two IMO.

Window for detonation does depend on power.

If an enemy is hurled in a singularity, they'll be primed for some time.

If the enemy has protections, dark channel works well as a lasting primer.

[ToLazy4Name]

Pretty good guide, other than your weapon choices. Certain Biotic characters make very good use of heavier weapons (Think Batarian Slasher with a Claymore, or Krogan Adept with a Reegar).

[xBUMMx]

First off, amazing guide. Nothing I didn't already know, but I have used biotics way too much. I like how you actually pointed out that tech primers don't actually unprime targets, and will actually allow two consecutive explosions, sometimes I think most people don't get that.

Something that I didn't see though, that I think should be pointed out: NO power can detonate itself. A different power is needed to detonate, even on powers that act as both primers and detonators.

I think you pointed it out, but I just kinda want to reiterate it, tech can't detonate biotics, but biotics can detonate tech.

Modifié par xBUMMx, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:19 .

[IllusiveManJr]

Abraham_uk wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Yeah, the window for detonation needs an extra second or two IMO.

Window for detonation does depend on power.

If an enemy is hurled in a singularity, they'll be primed for some time.

If the enemy has protections, dark channel works well as a lasting primer.

I was referring I Barrier, which is what the OP and I were discussing. I apologize for any confusion I caused you. 

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[LD_Dragon]

Quite an impressive guide. I consider myself quite good with biotics, but you've shown me a few combos that I had no idea about. I appreciate the pointers you have given me.

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[Supremocognito]

Nice post,very helpful. I wish this came out when I was new to biotics. Hopefully people will understand how to be supportive around biotics and what class to use when in a party of biotics.

On the side not, you might want to add: biotic slash and lift grenades to the detonators list.

[Doctor Trick]

Supremocognito wrote...

Nice post,very helpful. I wish this came out when I was new to biotics. Hopefully people will understand how to be supportive around biotics and what class to use when in a party of biotics.

On the side not, you might want to add: biotic slash and lift grenades to the detonators list.

I will be updating the Lists, with the rest of the biotic powers soon. :happy:

[SKhalazza]

Doesn't lift grenade also trigger BE ?

[Supremocognito]

Mayby you could list the biotic combos for each class to help newbies figure out which class is best for them. PM me if you want my help. I am a pro at biotics and they are my go to class.

Modifié par Supremocognito, 02 février 2013 - 09:10 .

[I_pity_the_fool]

SKhalazza wrote...

Doesn't lift grenade also trigger BE ?

I believe it primes the target it lifts (it only lifts one target, and he has to be down to health).

I've read that it detonates targets that are down to health. Must test this.

[I_pity_the_fool]

Also barrier lifts a single target for 3 seconds. I assume he's only primed while he's lifted, not while he's falling to earth.