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[LAZERAK47]

The gun is one of my favorite sniper rifles for its anti-infantry capabilities. And while the BW might be more powerful, it's heavier as well. Thanks to its light weight, quick fire and reload speed, it's my favorite gun when I go a-huntin with my N7 Shadow.

[Ares Caesar]

The problem with the Valiant is that like most sniper rifles, its mostly only good on Infiltrators, and on them there are generally better options now.

Instead of simply increasing the damage so it'd be another Infiltrator SR, I'd actually prefer to see its weight significantly reduced, so it could be more openly used across all classes.

New stats;

Damage: 430-545 (from 396-515)
Weight: 1.4-0.9 (from 1.75-1.0)

That should give it a fairly unique role, and allow for it to be far more widely used across a variety of classes (even at level 1).

[iOnlySignIn]

Air Quotes wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

It's way better than the Black Widow.

For Engineers. 

 
See I don't put Sniper Rifles on anything, but Infiltrators. They just don't really fit anywhere else. 

Well then it's a wonder that you're still not bored of this game yet.

Anyway, try it on the Human and Geth Engineers (Operative Package). It's pretty amazing if you have it above Level V.

Edit: I'd say it's the best SR choice for the Human Engineer. Unless you're good with the Kishok.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:01 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Air Quotes wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

It's way better than the Black Widow.

For Engineers. 

 
See I don't put Sniper Rifles on anything, but Infiltrators. They just don't really fit anywhere else. 

Well then it's a wonder that you're still not bored of this game yet.

Anyway, try it on the Human and Geth Engineers (Operative Package). It's pretty amazing if you have it above Level V.

 

I rather go for massive Fire Explosions and Tech Bursts on an Engineer. So Falcon or something like that fits a lot better than a sniper. 

Valiant doesn't weight much more than a Falcon.

And if you're using Ammo instead of Powers to do Explosions on your Engineers, you're gimping yourself. All Ammo count as Level 1 Powers when priming explosions.

[Ares Caesar]

Air Quotes wrote...

Ares Caesar wrote...

The problem with the Valiant is that like most sniper rifles, its mostly only good on Infiltrators, and on them there are generally better options now.

Instead of simply increasing the damage so it'd be another Infiltrator SR, I'd actually prefer to see its weight significantly reduced, so it could be more openly used across all classes.

New stats;

Damage: 430-545 (from 396-515)
Weight: 1.4-0.9 (from 1.75-1.0)

That should give it a fairly unique role, and allow for it to be far more widely used across a variety of classes (even at level 1).

 

Would go into Viper's and Indra's space too much. 

Except the Viper is lighter (at level 10) and has a higher clip capacity along with being an Uncommon. The Indra would still be unique in also being lighter, better at applying ammo effects, better at ignoring shield gate, and still posses more total damage per clip.

If you simply buff the damage, it'll just encroach upon the Black Widow instead, and still remain an "Infiltrator only" option... quite frankly I'm sick of so many guns weighing insane amounts and being relegated to situational builds.

[ArcaptSSX]

Air Quotes wrote...
See I don't put Sniper Rifles on anything, but Infiltrators. They just don't really fit anywhere else. 

Having the same problem, i'm not sure whether that's a psychological bias or not. I mean i can use SRs well enough on other classes, but the SR experience feels like it lies in scoring big shots as opposed to generic dps.

Modifié par ArcaptSSX, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:09 .

[oXTheReverendXo]

For the first month or two the game was out, the Valiant was my favorite weapon. I still think it's a viable gun, but the nerf to rank 6 in TC and buffs to the other SRs have all but made me forget about this once formidable gun.

I still enjoy sniping from time to time, but now it's strictly with the BW or Javelin. I'd love to see rank 6 of TC returned to it's former glory (now that the Krysabomination responsible for its death has been destroyed), or at least a decent damage buff for the Valiant. Either might be sufficient to put the Prince back on his throne for me.

[Deerber]

Air Quotes wrote...

Deerber wrote...

It's one of the weapons which improves most with level. If you compare a Valiant X and a BW X you can see that it's not outclassed, it's just different.

 

I have a BW X and Valiant VIII. And Black Widow is way better. Used to be equal. 

Man, how can you say one is way better thant the other when it weights twice as much, litterally?

Of course it's way better as damage output and everything else, it weights twice as much! But there's no way you can use a BW and another weapon on a caster class without suffering a lot on your CDs. The Valiant doesn't have that problem.

Now, I know that putting a SR like that and another weapon on a caster class isn't your game style. It's not mine either, and it's not as efficient as other gamestyles. Still some people like to play that way.

I'll tell you what, if I had it at high level, I'd put it on my Turian Sentinel alongside my Wraith. Certainly not the most effective setup, by far. But I play him when I want to have a relaxing match, not caring about roflstomping the enemy before they even spawn, you know? And it would fit perfectly.

All in all, the only change I'd make to the gun would be to make it a bit better at low levels, while leaving X as it is.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Valiant is still one of the best guns in the game. Weight as much as a mantis @ X. The RoF and reload time also make it pretty deadly for battle. Once I get it at X I'll give full opinion on the gun. I think the BW is best gun in the game for Acc, damage per shot (great against all defense types, and is a one shot mooker) built in pericing. The wieght though disables it from being used on more power friendly classes. The valiant on the other hand still does have a higher multi-clip DPS since it reloads so fast, In the hands of a headshooter it might trump the BW.

I would say overall, as long as it can 1 shot mooks (gold/plat), it can be called the best gun in the game again.

[TheThirdSpectre]

I'm gonna pretend I didn't see the title, ok?

The Valiant is actually pretty good, I prefer it over the Black Widow.

[Deerber]

Uhm okay, I just checked some numers and saw that it does less damage per shot than a Saber.

Yeah ok, it might need a slight damage buff.

Edit: ninjad! 

Modifié par Deerber, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:20 .

[Influ]

It's a good, fairly powerful sniper for classes that care about weight. No point in ever using it over the BW on Infiltrators. I basically never use it, but it's mostly due to me preferring single shot rifles when I feel like sniping.

[GriM_AoD]

Never really liked it much.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The reason I don't use the Valiant is because I have it at Level II..for months now..so

[HolyAvenger]

I like it, but with Phasic Rounds and shieldgate reduction, a lot of its appeal has been replaced.

A buff is a good idea.

[Influ]

Air Quotes wrote...

Influ wrote...

It's a good, fairly powerful sniper for classes that care about weight. No point in ever using it over the BW on Infiltrators. I basically never use it, but it's mostly due to me preferring single shot rifles when I feel like sniping.

 

But classes who care about weight are better of with a pistol + scope or a light shotgun or SMG or AR. Snipers just don't mesh well with them. 

 
True. I think it's amusing that the Paladin actually hits harder than the Valiant.

[Cyanide483]

great at killing mooks but only tickles bosses past silver

it used to be my most preferred commendation pack prize back when I was a silver player