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So people don't like the Valiant anymore?


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Also, here's why it fell out of favor - before the Tactical Cloak nerf, snipers were the DPS kings of the game. Then TC took a pretty substantial nerf (warrented) and snipers became obsolete to the shotgun infiltrators as shotguns were just better weapons overall. Snipers in general were a fairly uncommon sight at that time.

Then they buffed many of the SRs to make up for the TC nerf - but they never touched the Valiant. So it was much better in respect to the other SRs pre-TC nerf than it is now.

 

Also, shieldgate nerf and Phasic rounds took away from its awesomeness. Before they existed it was a much faster mook killer than a Jav or BW or whatever.

 

Yeah. classic role reversal. 

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Only an idiot would hate it.

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Only an idiot would hate it.

 

I don't hate it. It's my fav gun in SP and my FemShep only uses the Valiant. But it's not nearly as good as it used to be. 

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I completed operation ballsac and got another frickan crusader, even with the changes id still prefer a valiant XD

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Felhand wrote...

I completed operation ballsac and got another frickan crusader, even with the changes id still prefer a valiant XD

Crusader IX from this Op... I don't like shotguns...

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I completed operation ballsac and got another frickan crusader, even with the changes id still prefer a valiant XD

 

:lol: true enough 

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I'm still happy with the Valiant. When it comes to promotional weapons, it is either that or the Hurricane I want to see when I open the commendation pack (though I would like to get the Crusader. Just once, to give it a try).

Maybe it could do with a small damage buff, but if you're going for headshots it still does the job on mooks. Bosses are a little trickier with it, but I feel like the lack of recoil and decent firing speed/reload times mean I can lay down a still decent amount of damage. Clearing out mooks is definitely where it excels though.

Then again, I've been playing with the Salarian Infiltrator and Valiant IV for the last couple of hours (sniper challenge...just need 30 medals), and given the advantages of the Salarian over other infiltrators, maybe I'm overestimating its effectiveness. But then, when did the basic human class weekend challenge, I used an infiltrator with the Valiant III for that, and I found it worked pretty well too.

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I love the Valiant.
I don't love getting nothing but Valiants out of my comm packs.

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My valiant is low level, mostly since I switched to PC and started over.

I loved it on bronze, liked it on silver but the second I moved to gold I hated it. I feel like I am using a super gimped saber, bw, or anything with more than one shot thats worth a damn.

The super fast reload doesn't match with cloak windows. The weapon weights too much to use on most caster classes, or is just outclassed by other guns.

The biggest problem is the lack of scaling between levels. I hear its super nice and does good damage on paper at level 10. It scales between levels horribly below that.  If I got nothing but the valiant out of commedation packs, how many months would it take me to get to 10?

The only N7 upgrades I want are the Crusader and Hurricane. You can talk bout the crusaders poor boss damage but thats the only buff needed on it. The rest just suck and make me wonder if N7 is an elite force just because no one else was sane enough to use these guns.

Modifié par Drunkencelt, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:08 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

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I think your every single post is about buff suggestion.

 

Is that bad? I proposed plenty of nerfs/balance suggestions too. 


If we don't suggest buffs or nerfs, then what is the point of this forum?  This is where Bioware learns what we think of their game, and plays a role in the changes that are constantly being made, so as to improve the experience.

Air Quotes, I wouldn't say no to your proposition for a damage and HS multiplier idea.  Keep 'em coming.

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Valiant is good against Cerberus and Geth. But not so much against Reaper and Collector.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Valiant is good against Cerberus and Geth. But not so much against Reaper and Collector.


I would assume it is the exact opposite. Since reaper and collector have the most mobs without shield/barriers. It is not like the Valiant is going to shield gate then health gate a mob dead in two shots.

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Reapers. 26 minutes.

How is that proof that it's a good gun ? Take a Javelin and finish the game in less than 20.


~25 mins is fine with randoms, and I'd consider ~20 mins to be a fast match with randoms. That map would have been cleared in 15 or less with friends. At the end of the day though I'll say this for the Valiant: The gun is a joy to use. It's just plain fun.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 26 janvier 2013 - 08:12 .


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The Valiant is a great weapon. Always was. It isn't outclassed by the Black Widow at all; I have no idea where you're getting that from.

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I just got mine to X today and tried to run it on gold. Pretty underwhelming and not very forgiving if you hit the body instead of the head compared to the big 3 (javelin,black widow, widow).

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The Valiant is very meh.

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You are looking at the Valiant in the same light as the BW and expecting the gun to be the majority of your damage output. You need to look at the Valiant as an ammo power delivery system and concentrate on tech burst with it. AOE damage > single target damage. Throw on both piercing mods to hit multiple targets in a fresh spawn, then detonate disruptor/incendiary ammo with a proxy mine and repeat to clear spawns. Clean the bosses up with headshots (they'll still be under the proxy debuff.) The only thing you should be KILLING with headshots is bosses. Headshot the mooks for the damage bonus, but get the kill with a tech burst.


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That is a whole lot of proving absolutely nothing. Saying a gun is a good ammo power delivery system is pretty much saying the gun is garbage. And your picture, means nothing, especially because you clearly used an inf.

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I have personally always liked the BW better. The valiant is a good SR though, especially if you don't want to reload cancel and don't like recoil.

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Still my favorite, all in all. The fire rate makes it more forgiving of my mediocre sniping skills.

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It's the only weapon I want from the commendation packs.

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I still love it more than any other Commendation weapon. It's also currently my highest at VIII. That said, it could use a bit more damage.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Remember when it was the most desired weapon ouf of all promotional ones? Would a 10% buff make any difference? It was about equal to Black Widow, but now it's outclassed pretty hard.   


Yeah I don't always use snipers, but when I do I go for Indra. OR Black Widow. Valiant... wellll... didn't like it that much. Maybe I should just try it again, but from the little I did test it, it felt pretty lackluster. Definedly my least favourite of promotional guns... next to Valkyrie.

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Kingofkod wrote...

I just got mine to X today and tried to run it on gold. Pretty underwhelming and not very forgiving if you hit the body instead of the head compared to the big 3 (javelin,black widow, widow).

Awww, poor you! You mean you have to actually be good and TRY instead of just fire and win? 
What a bummer! 

Modifié par Battlepope190, 26 janvier 2013 - 10:33 .


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Mine just needs more upgrades. I only have it at level II. I'm sure it's a beast at X.

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Since the buff to the black widow and other snipers I see no reason to use it. Mines been stuck at 3 since August. If I want to snipe I will use something else since valiant is rather underwhelming on gold.