I have a Javelin I, a Widow X, and a Valiant V. Guess which one I don't use.Feneckus wrote...
There's no reason to use a non-Javelin sniper rifle.
Modifié par Miniditka77, 27 janvier 2013 - 12:52 .
So people don't like the Valiant anymore?
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#151
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:44
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#152
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:45
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
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You are looking at the Valiant in the same light as the BW and expecting the gun to be the majority of your damage output. You need to look at the Valiant as an ammo power delivery system and concentrate on tech burst with it. AOE damage > single target damage. Throw on both piercing mods to hit multiple targets in a fresh spawn, then detonate disruptor/incendiary ammo with a proxy mine and repeat to clear spawns. Clean the bosses up with headshots (they'll still be under the proxy debuff.) The only thing you should be KILLING with headshots is bosses. Headshot the mooks for the damage bonus, but get the kill with a tech burst.
That is a whole lot of proving absolutely nothing. Saying a gun is a good ammo power delivery system is pretty much saying the gun is garbage. And your picture, means nothing, especially because you clearly used an inf.
An infiltrator using a sniper rifle... say it ain't so
The Falcon is a good ammo delivery system, doesn't do a lot of damage on it's own but its a fine weapon when used with skill and good tactics. Just because a weapon doesn't hit like the claymore doesn't make it "garbage".
The picture shows that the Valiant on an infiltrator is just fine on gold. I've run the same setup with friends and it's just as good. Here's a platinum screenshot with ALL infiltrators:
Do you also use the TGI as grounds for saying an AR is a good weapon?
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 01:19
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No, the Valkyrie is bad no matter what class it's on. 
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 01:23
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
No, the Valkyrie is bad no matter what class it's on.
Respectfully disagree. Valiant is a fabulous sniper
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 01:31
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I have a Valiant IX. It's all I use. The fast reload outstrips anything the BW can do, at least for me. That gun feels too heavy and the backfire is a b*tch. I haven't used my BW in forever. Maybe if I got used to it I'd like it more? Maybe once it's X and a little bit lighter.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 01:33
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Valiant is like the Black Widow's fragile helmet-clad sister
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 08:53
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At the very least it can show that the gun is viable at the demonstrated difficulty.
Any weapon is "viable" in the right hands, no matter the difficulty, even common weapons. Scoreboard screenshots really don't prove anything ever.
Besides, no one is saying the Valiant is crap, it's not, but it definitely lags behind the other sniper rifles right now.
In terms of direct damage... sure. I say that it's a different beast altogether and is not being used correctly when utilized in that manner.Air Quotes wrote...
Also you score 5-10 headshots. In the right hands it would be 20. ALWAYS.
Well, we all have our off days.
But in reality, you only get a headshot medal on KILLS. My tactics generally reserve the final blows for a power to get a tech burst (even for bosses). Kills by headshots and direct damage are accidents... you can't tech burst a corpse.
Many weapons can prime and even better than the Valiant. And you proved it yourself. It lacks power and needs tech bursts to kill.
My point about it being a different beast altogether exactly!
I love the Valiant, Bioware modifying it may very well make it worse in my case which is what I'm concerned with. I've expressed my POV as best I can. I'm not the best sniper or player in the world, so with the my Valiant build holding up so well in my games it is my humble opinion that it is fine as is.
Just for reference, I recorded a random PUG game with my Valiant Infiltrator if you really want to see how I play with it. I gave it an opratic metal soundtrack since the PUGs weren't talkative
Valiant Infiltrator Video
You're using it on a GI, which is the most damaging character ever with insane weapon boosts and wallhack. You put anything on him and it'll wotk. And the Valaint is okay on Infiltrators, but they have better choices now. You put a Black Widow on him with Phasic rounds and tech bursts aren't even needed.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 09:17
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I want the Black Widow. After over 300 hours of ME3 multiplayer gaming I do not have it. I am glad we get a great sniper rifle in the Comendation Packs because the N7 Valient and the Black Widow are the only sniper rifles I like using.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 09:21
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It just needs a small boost, honestly. It's much easier to use and faster-shooting than the Black Widow, which in turn is more powerful per shot and has slight piercing innately. It needs a boost in power for sure, but nothing too extreme, as they are ultimately different guns.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 09:24
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Alien Number Six wrote...
I want the Black Widow. After over 300 hours of ME3 multiplayer gaming I do not have it. I am glad we get a great sniper rifle in the Comendation Packs because the N7 Valient and the Black Widow are the only sniper rifles I like using.
So. I'm not the only one who doesn't have the BW. And I've played sence the demo.
And for the topic. I love the Valient. Use it on my MQI, Drell assassin, and when I feel like it, one of my Human Infiltrators.
