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[Kazzuuk]

Paralenko wrote...


I've also considered the possibility that Shepard is the one who chose(subconsciously) what form the Catalyst would take.

This was my original thought on my first play through as well.  A humorous analogue would be the end of the first Ghostbusters.  For all those who take issue with the Catalyst's form, be glad is was not J. Edgar Hoover or the Stay Puffed Marshmellow Man . 

Forgive me for not giving credit to the proper poster, but whoever stated that the dreams with the child were symptomatic of PTSD was dead on.  I think people on this board get way too hung up on the form of the catalyst in general, though perhpas as  mentioned earlier in this thread, an introduction of the catalyst shifting through all those you've lost before settling on the form of the child would have been better and or more clear.  Just my 2 cents.

[Grubas]

oily shadows and a kid only shep can see? scraped indoctrination plot.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Kazzuuk wrote...

Paralenko wrote...


I've also considered the possibility that Shepard is the one who chose(subconsciously) what form the Catalyst would take.

This was my original thought on my first play through as well.  A humorous analogue would be the end of the first Ghostbusters.  For all those who take issue with the Catalyst's form, be glad is was not J. Edgar Hoover or the Stay Puffed Marshmellow Man . 

Forgive me for not giving credit to the proper poster, but whoever stated that the dreams with the child were symptomatic of PTSD was dead on.  I think people on this board get way too hung up on the form of the catalyst in general, though perhpas as  mentioned earlier in this thread, an introduction of the catalyst shifting through all those you've lost before settling on the form of the child would have been better and or more clear.  Just my 2 cents.

There are some inaccuracies in that interpretation. PTSD doesn't work like that.

[Kazzuuk]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


There are some inaccuracies in that interpretation. PTSD doesn't work like that.

Recurring dreams, both of symbolic nature and/or of a traumatic event, is one of, if not the most common symptom of PTSD.  I'm just saying, that was my first thought upon those dreams as well. 

[InvincibleHero]

bleetman wrote...

Right, but they're all his three choices. They're not ours. We couldn't challenge or reject what he was saying and invoke our own solution, until the EC came along and added such (though doing so can largely be considered a failure given that it results in everybody dying and the next cycle apparently doing it anyway, depending on how definitive you find twitter to be). Presenting us with three options the Catalyst has personally selected and saying 'pick one' doesn't suddenly make the decision ours.

We might not have been required to "buddy up" with the Catalyst, but accepting what it was saying was fact was literally all we could do.

I'd like to you name me a video game where you got to write your ending choice because that is what you are asking for. It has never been done. You never get to invoke your own solution. Shepard discovered crucible, he built it, he activated it, and its use allowed for the ending choices presented. Catlayst is a part of the process that cannot be stopped. It decides nothing. Shepard does when you refuse nothing happens which means nothing changes and the reapers reap. People purposely misrepresent because they wanted something else out of the ending they were not given. I believe some people could be confused about it but no one accepts plausible explanations by BW or anyone else.

You have always picked between choices the makers of the game have provided you. You happen to dsilike them and that is fine but your argument is wrong.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Kazzuuk wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


There are some inaccuracies in that interpretation. PTSD doesn't work like that.

Recurring dreams, both of symbolic nature and/or of a traumatic event, is one of, if not the most common symptom of PTSD.  I'm just saying, that was my first thought upon those dreams as well. 

The most common symptoms would be reliving the event that caused the trauma and having an extreme aversion and fear of situations similar to the event that caused the trauma.Additional symptoms include feelings of emotional numbness and sadness.

Shepard is not suffering from ptsd.Notice his lack of fear of engaging reapers in combat. He is also not reliving the moment the child gets killed. Trust me if he was suffering from ptsd, the entire game would center around Shepard curling up at the mere mention of a reaper. Besides, there is a long list of people Shepard has seen die, that would have greater emotional impact and far more likely to cause him to suffer from ptsd