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[Redbelle]

Kezzup wrote...

For those of you unaware, Chris Priestly recently wrote THIS on another thread here on this forum:

Chris Priestly wrote...

To call the next game Mass Effect 4
or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion
here. We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over
and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail
you have on the game. I see people saying "well, they'll have to pick a
canon ending". No, because the game does not have to come after. Or
before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or
yaddayaddayadda. Wherever, whenever, whoever, etc will all be revealed
years down the road when we actually start talking about it.

I do
not call the game ME4 when I talk about it ever, bucause that makes
people think of it more as "what happens after Mass Effect 3" rather
than "what game happens next set in the Mass Effect Universe", which is
far more accurate at this point. Obviously fans are going to speculate
content, character and story until we actually reveal details in the
years or months to come as you have almost no actual details, just don't
get bogged down in "well how are they going to continue ME3...".



[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

There have been 3 mass effect titles to date. They have proposed another
one.Let's imagine the one in the future has been released and count
them shall we?

1...

2...

3...

4............ 5? (Hey a person can hope)!

CP's and other's from BW lead me to believe that the issue is not that ppl
are calling it ME4. It's that BW don't want ppl thinking that Shepard
might be in it. In fact, it seem's more and more evident that what BW
want is a completely clean slate in an established universe to
springboard their next ME installment.......

Uh-uh.

Shepard happened. He's a BW icon. We've heard countless times from BW that he's
not coming back, despite someone who allegedly, from BW, confirmed that
the Shepard live's in the destroy scene.

Ok that's fine. ME4 (chronologically speaking in term's of release's), will not feature
Shepard. But BW, please, you don't have to keep pushing Shepard off to
the side every time this issue comes up. Shepard happened and became, to
quote Ms Lawson, "A hero. A bloody icon". Get a splash page in a
magazine or website of all the great character's in gaming like master
chief, Lara Croft etc and Shepard doesn't look out of place in there.

I'm fine with a new protagonist, (provided you don't go the way of Onimusha and replace the noble Jubei with an androgynous blond haired beach bum with stabby thing's). But I hope this "Not Shepard's story
anymore", trend doesn't escalate to airbrushing out the gaming legend BW
created in Cmdr Shepard - KIA?

Modifié par Redbelle, 07 février 2013 - 06:04 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Yanick Roy wrote...

Ajensis wrote...

[...] so much so that the moderators didn't dare lock it

Oh! Is that what this checkbox does?

And by the way guys, don't look, but given the number of news story I'm seeing this morning about this thread, I think we're being watched...

I think I like you...!

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Yanick I just want to warn you about two things while you guys make the next Mass Effect.

1. Please be careful about how you hype and advertise the game. Part of the reason why so many people are angry about Mass Effect 3 is because of it's PR and how many statements ended up being false or misleading.

2. Keep in mind that most of us really care about the characters and the universe. So whether or not this game will be stand alone or if it will spawn an entirely new trilogy, just make sure that they everything has a clear cut and proper resolution (including the main protagonist).

In my opinion these were two of Mass Effect 3's biggest flaws and mistakes, and you guys should try to do whatever you can to avoid ending up in the same situation with the next Mass Effect game.

I concur with these points.

[Rixatrix]

I vote "ME X" until we hear more.

[LeVaughnX]

I'm back only to explain a few things..

1.) The fact that Casey does not want it to be called Mass Effect 4 means it doesn't even take place in the same "Universe" as 1 / 2 / 3. I'm going to bet that Mass Effect becomes an Anthology series where each trilogy has its own unique universe, atmosphere, and story. It's a very stupid thing to do to be honest as they still haven't technically completed Mass Effect 3's story, and ret-conning it for a whole new universe would just be a bad show on their part.

2.) I'd personally love to see a whole second trilogy of Mass Effect revolve around finding Shpeard in the first game as your Love Interest (or Vega, though Vega is a douche bag Jersey shore reject), finding out how to reverse the indoctrination that was placed on Shepard (Seriously I'm going with that he has been indoctrinated, how could he not be by the finale) all in the second game, then in the third I want Shepards epic return to help crush the damn Reapers once and for all. Other than having Shepard appear in all three in the next set, or a mixture of him showing up or not, I don't see it being a good series of games as EAware has alot of **** to make up for.

3.) Do not add multiplayer to the next game. If you want multiplayer then add in a four player cooperative mode where people can actually go through the entire story as their own custom class - behind Shepard who is the Host player. Further add that they can make decisions based on group voting; meaning each group member can vote on a decision that the host makes (be it paragon or renegade etc). This would far outweigh a stupid PVP thing which would ruin the franchise completely, and would be better than a standard horde mode.

[chimpdaddy121]

if you look at it for purely business the only reason for the name change is due to the controversy surrounding ME3.

if it does not contain "mass effect" and then a number then it will not be associated with the bad press, anyone who is in business knows this is a "re-branding" to shift away from the stigma that is now stuck under the ME franchise, whether people love it or hate it it makes no odds, its the shareholders and shares that this is about, not about disservice at all..

hey who knows maybe like the old "unfounded" leaks it could still be called mass shift and be another trilogy,

all in all its the same thing just different packaging, its what all businesses do at the end of the day and after all EA/Bioware is a business first and foremost and an artist 2nd when it suits the PR spin.

[puppy maclove]

this is just sad... take a look at yourself BW... this is what you have become..... 

Mumbled PR Bull and mixed metaphors to try stimulate interest and hide behind the fact that your product is below par. What a joke...

I hope all the fanboys will still be around in a year or two for your sake( if you are). EA will **** the death out of ME: next edition or whatever bull**** title you need to call it to feel better. YOU MAKE ME SICK BIOWARE.,,, FOCUS ON MAKING GAMES.. NOT PR BS.

Modifié par jlmaclachlan, 07 février 2013 - 08:35 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Mass Effect: Superior Speculations (ME:SS) 

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 07 février 2013 - 09:49 .

[Redbelle]

Mass Effect: Phwoooar! Asari undercover

[Redbelle]

LeVaughnX wrote...

I'm back only to explain a few things..

1.) The fact that Casey does not want it to be called Mass Effect 4 means it doesn't even take place in the same "Universe" as 1 / 2 / 3. I'm going to bet that Mass Effect becomes an Anthology series where each trilogy has its own unique universe, atmosphere, and story. It's a very stupid thing to do to be honest as they still haven't technically completed Mass Effect 3's story, and ret-conning it for a whole new universe would just be a bad show on their part.

*snip

From a follow up statement made by another BW employee, my impression is that it will, to use his words, occur after the event's of ME3. They do not use the word sequel so make of that what you will.

[X-Com_Psi_Amp]

 What's Bioware is really saying:

We want to make a new sci-fi IP

but we also want to re-use all the material created earlier for Mass Effect

because let's face it.. creating everything over from scratch again is something that make developing anything very hard

I saw we let Bioware make this new not!Mass Effect and see how it turns out

Just consider this a reboot of the franchise

Modifié par X-Com_Psi_Amp, 07 février 2013 - 09:44 .

[Morty Smith]

This is the first thread in months, that rekindles some excitment for ME in little me.

Thanks Mr. Roy.

Modifié par Kroitz, 07 février 2013 - 09:58 .

[futurepixels]

X-Com_Psi_Amp wrote...

 What's Bioware is really saying:

We want to make a new sci-fi IP

but we also want to re-use all the material created earlier for Mass Effect

because let's face it.. creating everything over from scratch again is something that make developing anything very hard

I saw we let Bioware make this new not!Mass Effect and see how it turns out

Just consider this a reboot of the franchise

Bioware Edmonton IS working on a new IP, so yea...

[EnvyTB075]

Yanick could you possibly also mention to EA that if they make a Mirrors Edge style game in the ME universe with absolutely no connection to the Reapers/Shepard etc but featuring all the cool races we know and love, that it would sell a heap and would be incredibly awesome.

Think about it from the perspective of humanity offering something completely different that possibly has never even been considered by even Asari. Would be a nice change from "look, we're good soldiers too! Now bow down to us for we are clearly superior because reasons!".

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 07 février 2013 - 11:05 .

[Shortstuff820]

Welcome to the forums, Yanick!

Do you know if we'll be able to choose our protagonist's race (Quarian, Drell, Asari, etc.) or is it too soon to tell yet? I think that's the biggest idea fans want to see implemented.

Modifié par Shortstuff820, 07 février 2013 - 11:16 .

[Yuqi]

Yanick Roy wrote...

By the way, thank you all for making me feel welcome here. I don't know how regularly I'll be able to stop by the forums, but given that today is the first time in the 7+ years I've been with BioWare, it should not be too hard to improve my batting average!

Welcome to the forums, Yanick!
Make sure you bring: armor, and a flame-sheild. 

Modifié par Yuqi, 07 février 2013 - 11:50 .

[AresKeith]

ME4 ME4 ME4 Mass Effect 4

[Blade8971]

AresKeith wrote...

ME4 ME4 ME4 Mass Effect 4

x2.......Yeah!!!!!

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Just don't call it "Mass Effect: Revelations"

We've already got: Assassins Creed, Tomb Raider and Resident Evil using that term, not to mention "The Book of"

[Renmiri1]

BladyMZ wrote...

Mass Effect Next. MEN.

"I hope we get more romance options in MEN"

"MEN should have more loyalty missions"

"Can't wait to get my hands on MEN"

Like a boss.

Mass Effect Reboot - MER

Because  Genocidal Casper f**kd up the franchise so they need to start all over again. 

[ZabiGG]

chimpdaddy121 wrote...

if you look at it for purely business the only reason for the name change is due to the controversy surrounding ME3.

Actually, just to put things in perspective, no one called for a name change. We're basically discussing a short working title that creates no lofty or excessive expectations. A lot of posters here seem to agree that the hype was a huge factor in the disappointment over the endings of ME3, and I wholeheartedly concur.

This topic is actually similar to the story that led to the creation of the name Thedas for Dragon Age (The Dragon Age Setting). The aim is to collectively come up with a name that would prevent falsely based assumptions and speculation and, ultimately, endless dissatisfaction and bickering about supposed promises never made.

chimpdaddy121 wrote...

if it does not contain "mass effect" and then a number then it will not be associated with the bad press, anyone who is in business knows this is a "re-branding" to shift away from the stigma that is now stuck under the ME franchise, whether people love it or hate it it makes no odds, its the shareholders and shares that this is about, not about disservice at all..

** snip **

its what all businesses do at the end of the day and after all EA/Bioware is a business first and foremost and an artist 2nd when it suits the PR spin.

While this is your opinion, mine, as someone who has worked full-time in advertising since the early 1990s is this, from a purely business and marketing standpoint -- and, again, no intent of re-branding was ever mentioned by BW, just to make this very clear (this was a user-created topic):

The name Mass Effect WILL be the key selling feature of the product regardless of the controversy, because it equates to engaging adventure, choice, length, breadth, depth of story and incredible immersion. Period.

There is simply no such thing as bad press. Even negative advertising creates exposure and word-of-mouth. It sparks curiosity and can end up being quite positive for a brand if handled properly.

It is a well known fact that humans – especially gamers – are morbidly curious and eager little beasts. (And I share in this lot, too. I'm not pointing any fingers.)

We'll all be at the edge of our seats to see if BW can overcome this, and they very well might. Probably even brilliantly -- especially if we push constructively instead of destroying every ounce of ego they have left (and Lord knows how that creative ego is precious and fragile and filled with self-doubt, but can give rise to such heights and insight it's sometimes almost scary).

The mere anticipation of whether the “good guys we came to love” (BW) can overcome this turn of events and the EA operations model will most probably play a huge part in the success of the next game, in fact.

There is no stigma. There were 3 instalments of a huge, enthralling game that offered hundreds of hours of highly entertaining gameplay and incredible passion and metagaming vs. a disappointing finale that spanned about 15 minutes. So that's like 0.05% disappointment overall when looking at the big, hundreds-of-hours-long, picture. In six months, almost everyone but the hardcore fans will have already forgotten. 

And I'm not doing lip service -- those 15 minutes made me feel empty, lost and literally grieving for days. But I moved on and I can't wait to see what new worlds I can discover next, what new companions will lead me to new ways of seeing the world and of changing the universe. Because that's how powerful these stories make me feel, and that is the key.


As for “... after all EA/Bioware is a business first and foremost and an artist 2nd when it suits the PR spin,” don't you see how passionate you, yourself, are about their product? Think about the countless hours and money YOU INVESTED happily in what they marketed and how attached you seem to be to the franchise and its lore, characters and environment. Do you sincerely think it takes anything less than an artist to make you FEEL, SUSPEND YOUR BELIEF, ENGAGE and MAKE IT YOURS this way?

I agree that excessive monetizing is taxing and unfair. I agree that the sales model of games is very much lacking to ensure buyer satisfaction, especially in North America, since you can't return it once you've opened the cellophane. This has to be directed at commercial law, not the developers directly.

We need to give credit where credit's due. Without the artists and businesses that support the creation of these games -- and who are in it for the money, very naturally, because they all need to put bread on their tables -- wouldn't your world be a tad bland and bleaker? Wouldn't you be missing something?

You are allowed to  – and you should – question their business practices, but demeaning the scope of their work is somewhat cheap and one-sided. Sorry for the cliché, but there are always -- at least -- two sides to a medal, and any proper insight requires carefully assessing both perspectives. Maybe you didn't intend to demean them, and if so, I apologize for the wall of text, but I felt this other side of the coin was also quite valid.

[Kezzup]

If none of these other names work out, we could always go with MEGTRTLTARAOAOTMESBIFOAPBS, or Mass Effect Game That Retains The Lore, Technology, Alien Races, And Other Attributes Of The Mass Effect Series But Is Focused On A Protagonist Besides Shepard.

Rolls right off the tongue.

[Only-Twin]

How bout we come up with some names for Bioware.

Mass Effect: Vengeance
Mass Effect: Reloaded
Mass Effect: Deception
Mass Effect: The Return of Mass Effect
Mass Effect: Resurrection
Mass Effect: The Curse of Mass Effect
Mass Effect: Redemption

Modifié par Only-Twin, 08 février 2013 - 02:48 .

[Mark of the Dragon]

Im good as long as the new protagonist is indeed different from Shepard. I want a character that that has nothing to do with the government or military. Something like a pirate, smuggler, or even a regular bystander would be acceptable.

What I really want though is a mercenary!!!

[Mark of the Dragon]

Only-Twin wrote...

How bout we come up with some names for Bioware.

Mass Effect: Vengeance
Mass Effect: Reloaded
Mass Effect: Deception
Mass Effect: The Return of Mass Effect
Mass Effect: Resurrection
Mass Effect: The Curse of Mass Effect
Mass Effect: Redemption

Mass Impact?