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Ok so I think people are missing the obvious about "Mass Effect 4"


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As Mr Priestly has stated, he disagrees with people thinking it can only be a prequal or a sequal. Now sure many of you might think he is full of crap, I myself am guilty of this on occasion, however I think this time hes trying to actually tell us the game plan without getting into trouble. Basiclly I think "ME4" will boil down to this, alternate reality Mass Effect where there never were any Reapers to begin with. This lets them avoid having to pick a canon ending and thus pissing people off, and also avoids a boring Prequal that while -possibly- interesting would ultimately probably not be too successful.

What do you think? Would you be at all interested if the next games are in an alternate reality without Reapers? 

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nah for me it would have to set in the same universe, prequel or sequel I don't really care.

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I agree wih Samtheman63...it would have to be in the same universe.

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There's many ways they can do the next Mass Effect game. A prequel, a sequel... a mission to a different planet during the years Shepard is "dead", hell, they could probably make a game about just one planet, have something weird happen on said planet.

Mass Effect for me involves the reaper threat or and the whole history of former races having died out due to the reapers. It's also about the current races, the world and the universe. Remove one of those crucial things and... well meh, I lose interest.

I'm already doubtful about this new ME game to start with, this would put me off even more, sorry. :P

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Ok but if it isnt? would you still buy it? There are many ways to tell a story after all. You would rather take the risk of having your person ending to ME3 be made Not canon? I know I personally wouldn't want to risk it.

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To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.

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Mass Effect doesn't really require the Reapers to function. ME2 had an extremely light Reaper footprint yet is adored by many as the best game in the series (lack of contribution to the overarching plot notwithstanding)

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Yeah, it has to be in the same universe or it would be taking away the essence of what Mass Effect is all about. They would need to make a prequel something that everyone would want to play, despite knowing what's going to happen...like First Contact War. Or sequel would have to be set in many years later, just to not have to have Bioware touch on any ending as the consequences (or effects) will eventually disappear enough for Mass Effect to become enjoyable again, but what will it be about? I don't even know, lol. We can only see what in store will they have for us with ME4!

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Codename_Code wrote...

To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.


Chris makes it very clear that calling "mass Effect 4" is a mistake, and should not be considered "ME4" However since the name is unknown we cant call it anything else.

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I am not buying ME4 without Shepard hell to the no

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JBPBRC wrote...

Mass Effect doesn't really require the Reapers to function. ME2 had an extremely light Reaper footprint yet is adored by many as the best game in the series (lack of contribution to the overarching plot notwithstanding)



Exactly, the Reapers were imo one of the least interesting aspects of the ME universe, the ME universe can absolutely survive without them.

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I think Mr. Priestly does not sit in his office and figures out ways to hide secret meanings in his posts... well, most of the time!

but with this ME 4 posting im quite sure about that, because that game is most likely not even in development, its just talk so far! so theres nothing much to tell at all!

btw. in my opinion the worst case scenario would be a Mass Effect MMO! do a kill 100 krogan mercenaries quest, then do a kill 150 batarian slavers quest, then do a kill x _____ quest, then have a raid where everyone is jumping franticaly around which totaly kills all atmosphere... and then do it all again -.-

I hate MMOs

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Thore2k10 wrote...

I think Mr. Priestly does not sit in his office and figures out ways to hide secret meanings in his posts... well, most of the time!

but with this ME 4 posting im quite sure about that, because that game is most likely not even in development, its just talk so far! so theres nothing much to tell at all!

btw. in my opinion the worst case scenario would be a Mass Effect MMO! do a kill 100 krogan mercenaries quest, then do a kill 150 batarian slavers quest, then do a kill x _____ quest, then have a raid where everyone is jumping franticaly around which totaly kills all atmosphere... and then do it all again -.-

I hate MMOs


I dont see that happening following TOR's financial blunder.

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I saw his post yesterday.


It clearly implies that they are going the "Alternate Reality/Timeline" route. (Like the J.J. Abrams Star Trek reboot)


It makes sense to me. Give us the exact same universe. Citadel, Omega, Asari, Turians, Salarian, Krogan etc etc. But everything else is a clean slate "narrative" wise.

In a way, I like it because it allows Shepards story to stand on its own. I for one, dont want to come across or see any of Shepards crew, or any characters from the Shepard trilogy. The Alternate Reality route would ensure that this happens.

It's much better than a prequel or 'side-quel'. However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it to take place after the events of Shepard/Reapers. I want to experience this new age in the galaxy I have created.

Though, the only way I would want a "sequal" is if our final choice of ME3 carried over. Seeing as how this is obviously a difficult task to achieve, I'm completely fine with the alternate timeline, because imo there would be nothing worse than canonizing one of ME3's endings for the next game.

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So instead of dismissing peoples ending choices, they should dismiss the entire series?

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Codename_Code wrote...

To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.

There won't be a 4

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essarr71 wrote...

So instead of dismissing peoples ending choices, they should dismiss the entire series?


Ya, what he/she said. This is an absolutely horrible idea if they go with it.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.

There won't be a 4


Based on how people have reacted to the endings and DLC. And the fact that ME3 multiplayer isn't even in the top 20 most played games on XBL, I think you assertion may be correct. However, ME3 was a commercial success. Selling more than 5 million copies to date. 2 million on Xbox alone. So I think EA won't let the product die. But will people care???   

:?:?:?

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I thought about an alternate timeline for ME4 but did not like the idea, but it does present a good opportunity to do something completely different.

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essarr71 wrote...

So instead of dismissing peoples ending choices, they should dismiss the entire series?


They dont "dismiss" anything, The Mass Effect Trilogy will be what it always has been, The Story of Shepard. That does not mean the entire universe is reserved to be Shepards playground. The series will always be what it is, and an alternate universe game allows them to explore many more things without stepping on peoples toes and hurting their feelings as much. It also clears the Main Verse for everyone to write crap loads of Fan Fiction about.

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I have said this many times, but I agree with those who would lose most if not all interest in a future ME title that no longer takes place within the existing MEU.

I would love it if Shepard could come back, but I know he won't and am fine with that. A new fresh story, or dare I say, trilogy could be very cool. That said, I spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands in the MEU and growing attached to it. If I want a new sci-fi universe, I'll buy a scifi game from a different franchise. I buy ME because I want ME, not another universe.

If this is the route they go, then they're going to have a very difficult time convincing many older fans to buy it.

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I'm not sure how to approach this. On the one hand, this is an interesting idea. The way I see alternate universes is that different decisions yield different consequences. This is similar to the endings of Mass Effect 3 and how each decision resulted in radical differences to the universe at large. If done right, the game could be something very unique. On the other hand, executing this concept can prove to be very difficult. While continuity is not an issue, there is still the issue of how the universe would be if the Reapers didn't exist. Based on the lore of Mass Effect, the universe would change to the point where it's not the same as the one we know. In fact, the changes could be so great, calling the game Mass Effect would seem pointless. It could look and act like an entirely new game.

So personally, I don't think they should make a game out of such a concept. But it could prove to be interesting for a novel or a comic.

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PainCakesx wrote...

I have said this many times, but I agree with those who would lose most if not all interest in a future ME title that no longer takes place within the existing MEU.

I would love it if Shepard could come back, but I know he won't and am fine with that. A new fresh story, or dare I say, trilogy could be very cool. That said, I spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands in the MEU and growing attached to it. If I want a new sci-fi universe, I'll buy a scifi game from a different franchise. I buy ME because I want ME, not another universe.

If this is the route they go, then they're going to have a very difficult time convincing many older fans to buy it.


An Alternate universe is the EXACT SAME universe, only the story of Shepard does not happen. it's the same races, same relationships, same politics, same everything except Shepard and Gang. I really dont see how this is "not the same universe"

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so you think they are rebooting the series? that seems like a big mistake in my opinion. if they want to do that then they should just make a new space series, which would be a good reason of why not to call it me4 i guess, but not really relevant to ME discussions.

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GenRtin wrote...

I'm not sure how to approach this. On the one hand, this is an interesting idea. The way I see alternate universes is that different decisions yield different consequences. This is similar to the endings of Mass Effect 3 and how each decision resulted in radical differences to the universe at large. If done right, the game could be something very unique. On the other hand, executing this concept can prove to be very difficult. While continuity is not an issue, there is still the issue of how the universe would be if the Reapers didn't exist. Based on the lore of Mass Effect, the universe would change to the point where it's not the same as the one we know. In fact, the changes could be so great, calling the game Mass Effect would seem pointless. It could look and act like an entirely new game.

So personally, I don't think they should make a game out of such a concept. But it could prove to be interesting for a novel or a comic.



Ok how about this then? The Reapers exsisted, but the protheans defeated them in a phyrric victory, reduced to such numbers that they still die out?