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[Thore2k10]

kylecouch wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I have said this many times, but I agree with those who would lose most if not all interest in a future ME title that no longer takes place within the existing MEU.

I would love it if Shepard could come back, but I know he won't and am fine with that. A new fresh story, or dare I say, trilogy could be very cool. That said, I spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands in the MEU and growing attached to it. If I want a new sci-fi universe, I'll buy a scifi game from a different franchise. I buy ME because I want ME, not another universe.

If this is the route they go, then they're going to have a very difficult time convincing many older fans to buy it.

An Alternate universe is the EXACT SAME universe, only the story of Shepard does not happen. it's the same races, same relationships, same politics, same everything except Shepard and Gang. I really dont see how this is "not the same universe"

uhm, and the same reaper threat? exciting.... 

just image the ****storm which breaks lose after the players finished the game and are unhappy with that ending

[TheRevanchist]

Thore2k10 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

I have said this many times, but I agree with those who would lose most if not all interest in a future ME title that no longer takes place within the existing MEU.

I would love it if Shepard could come back, but I know he won't and am fine with that. A new fresh story, or dare I say, trilogy could be very cool. That said, I spent hundreds of hours, perhaps thousands in the MEU and growing attached to it. If I want a new sci-fi universe, I'll buy a scifi game from a different franchise. I buy ME because I want ME, not another universe.

If this is the route they go, then they're going to have a very difficult time convincing many older fans to buy it.

An Alternate universe is the EXACT SAME universe, only the story of Shepard does not happen. it's the same races, same relationships, same politics, same everything except Shepard and Gang. I really dont see how this is "not the same universe"

uhm, and the same reaper threat? exciting.... 

just image the ****storm which breaks lose after the players finished the game and are unhappy with that ending

I think I've already made it clears the Reapers probably would not be involved. As i suggest in the last page, Phyrric Prothean victory or some such hand waving to explain them away.

[Mcfly616]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.

There won't be a 4

Based on how people have reacted to the endings and DLC. And the fact that ME3 multiplayer isn't even in the top 20 most played games on XBL, I think you assertion may be correct. However, ME3 was a commercial success. Selling more than 5 million copies to date. 2 million on Xbox alone. So I think EA won't let the product die. But will people care???   

:?

no....you missed the point


There won't be an ME4. But there will most definitely be another Mass Effect game

[Thore2k10]

kylecouch wrote...

I think I've already made it clears the Reapers probably would not be involved. As i suggest in the last page, Phyrric Prothean victory or some such hand waving to explain them away.

well it wouldnt be the exact same universe, without shepard and the reapers.
and if the protheans had won against the reapers, then none of the other species would have evolved like they did. some would propably even be extinct... besides handwaving the entire first trilogy away by saying, that its a parallel universe doesnt sit well, i think i wouldnt like it...

it simply wouldnt be the mass effect universe everybody come to like, you could then as well start a completely new one!

[kalasaurus]

Mcfly616 wrote...

I saw his post yesterday.


It clearly implies that they are going the "Alternate Reality/Timeline" route. (Like the J.J. Abrams Star Trek reboot)


It makes sense to me. Give us the exact same universe. Citadel, Omega, Asari, Turians, Salarian, Krogan etc etc. But everything else is a clean slate "narrative" wise.

In a way, I like it because it allows Shepards story to stand on its own. I for one, dont want to come across or see any of Shepards crew, or any characters from the Shepard trilogy. The Alternate Reality route would ensure that this happens.

It's much better than a prequel or 'side-quel'. However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it to take place after the events of Shepard/Reapers. I want to experience this new age in the galaxy I have created.

Though, the only way I would want a "sequal" is if our final choice of ME3 carried over. Seeing as how this is obviously a difficult task to achieve, I'm completely fine with the alternate timeline, because imo there would be nothing worse than canonizing one of ME3's endings for the next game.

Me too.  I think an "alternate narrative" would make sense.  They already have an amazing scifi universe that doesn't start and end with Shepard.  I hope though that this ME4 is an RPG, and goes back to the slower-paced ME1/ ME2 RPG style with more of an open galaxy/ exploration to roam freely through.  It would be fun to play as different races, maybe, and have an origin story for each (DA: O- like ).

And yes, no cameos from Shepard's squad.  I don't want Garrus ruined in some 2 minute cameo making calibration jokes.

[AxStapleton]

To be honest, I'd much prefer if they'd just start a new IP than make an "alternate reality" Mass Effect.

[Mcfly616]

kylecouch wrote...

JBPBRC wrote...

Mass Effect doesn't really require the Reapers to function. ME2 had an extremely light Reaper footprint yet is adored by many as the best game in the series (lack of contribution to the overarching plot notwithstanding)

Exactly, the Reapers were imo one of the least interesting aspects of the ME universe, the ME universe can absolutely survive without them.

I think they're one of the more fascinating aspects of the series. Which is why ME2 is my least favorite of the trilogy. Despite how everybody says with hindsight: "oh they shouldve left the Reapers a mystery!". Yeah okay that would've turned out real well. There would've been major outrage. I for one, always wanted and expected to uncover the mysteries of the Reapers.

However, I also absolutely agree with you that the series can and most definitely will survive without the Reapers. Look at Star Trek. Klingons, Romulans, Borg. Or how about the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Star Wars has survived without Vader.


The Reapers are just the ultimate villains of the ME universe. Just as you think of Klingons in Star Trek or Vader and the Empire in Star Wars, we will always think of the Reapers as the original and ultimate bad guys of the Mass Effect series. But, the galaxy is a vast place. There are many more stories to tell.


Shepard and crew, and hell even the Reapers will always have a special place in my heart. And I will always come back to them......but my body is ready for a new adventure!!! Bring it on lol

[Mcfly616]

AxStapleton wrote...

To be honest, I'd much prefer if they'd just start a new IP than make an "alternate reality" Mass Effect.

they already are working on a new IP. Edmonton is working on the new IP while Montreal works on the new Mass Effect. Casey is (somehow) heading up both projects, I believe.


This was announced at the exact same time the new Mass Effect was confirmed.

[Thore2k10]

Excuse me, what is IP?

[Mcfly616]

Thore2k10 wrote...

Excuse me, what is IP?

they haven't said what its going to be about yet....just that they're working on a new one.

[Iakus]

Wile it's an interesting idea, I'm skeptical of it.

If Bioware won't even give us an alternate ending, why would they create an alternate universe?

[GreyLycanTrope]

Thore2k10 wrote...

Excuse me, what is IP?

Intellectual property.
Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Jade Empire are all different IPs/game series owned by Bioware.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 26 janvier 2013 - 09:38 .

[Neizd]

alternate reality - How to show the players that their decisions are not important at all. ME3 failed this, then this next game whatever it is seems like a kick in the balls that is coming closer and closer and is unavoidable...

[Mcfly616]

Neizd wrote...

alternate reality - How to show the players that their decisions are not important at all. ME3 failed this, then this next game whatever it is seems like a kick in the balls that is coming closer and closer and is unavoidable...

they only ever said that your choices would be carried over 3 games. And they did, so.....




Time for a fresh start

[TheRevanchist]

Neizd wrote...

alternate reality - How to show the players that their decisions are not important at all. ME3 failed this, then this next game whatever it is seems like a kick in the balls that is coming closer and closer and is unavoidable...

I think their reasons for this are fairly obvious. With the ending of ME3 they wrote themselves into a corner that they cannot escape without making even more flames. You know as well as i that EA wont let this IP die until it no longer makes money. They have no other choice of how to deal with this, this would be there way of saying they screwed up. I think ME might take on the DA approach of "make the games about The Milky Way" rather than a certin character, like how the DA games are about "The Dragon Age"  rather than The Warden or Hawke. This way they can hopefully avoid making this massive, complex plot that they are unable to deliver on and thus avoid this kind of thing again.  

[XxBrokenBonezxX]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

I am not buying ME4 without Shepard hell to the no

QFT

[InvincibleHero]

I wouldn't mind a mix of the old universe and seeing an off the chart world with a new alien species.

[TheRevanchist]

XxBrokenBonezxX wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

I am not buying ME4 without Shepard hell to the no

QFT

Right, like all those ppl who said they wouldnt buy a DA game without The Warden, then went out and bought it anyway. Despite Bioware making it clear from the beginning DA was never about The Warden, or The Grey Wardens, yet there are the people who seem to think THEY know what DA is about better than the guys who invented it and insist every game be about Grey Wardens.

[HiddenInWar]

I would very much like ME4 (the appropriate working title) to be set in the same timeline and universe, post-ME3. I'm iffy on a prequel, it would have to really impress me.

[Sil]

From what Priestly said, my thought lies on it being an MMO with ME3's gameplay. Something about what he said just seemed that way.

[RiptideX1090]

Why in God's dark galaxy would they set it in a an alternate universe?

It wouldn't be Mass Effect. I mean, Synthesis is already jumping the shark, this would be picking it up by the fin, throwing it out of a high rise window and into an exploding volcano on the moon while Christmas Carols play in the background.

[TheRevanchist]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Why in God's dark galaxy would they set it in a an alternate universe?

It wouldn't be Mass Effect. I mean, Synthesis is already jumping the shark, this would be picking it up by the fin, throwing it out of a high rise window and into an exploding volcano on the moon while Christmas Carols play in the background.

That sounds freakin amazing....I don't see an issue...

[k.lalh]

Sil wrote...

From what Priestly said, my thought lies on it being an MMO with ME3's gameplay. Something about what he said just seemed that way.

By the goddess please, please don't make it an MMO

[TheRevanchist]

Sil wrote...

From what Priestly said, my thought lies on it being an MMO with ME3's gameplay. Something about what he said just seemed that way.

Honestly, TOR was for the most part a massive financial failure, Bioware has proven they cannot make an MMO properly. I dont see a ME MMo happening simply because TOR was such a failed prospect, that and I dont see them competeing with themselves...

[TurianRebelGirl-Monika]

 I'll always love the series but yes, they do eventually have to start new with another storyline. I'm not exactly sure about it being set in an "alternet reality" and I don't really want Bioware to create all new alien races or anything like
that. They may as well put another title on and forget that it's a Mass Effect game. I love the Turians & Asari etc...It would be sad to leave it all behind ( I have an emotional bond with the characters..Garrus mostly:kissing:) but whatever it is though, I'll probably take a shot at it. Can't leave it all behind!