For me Mass Effect is dead Mass Effect was for Shepard but Shepard died and Mass Effect too they have to choose other name for their game
Ok so I think people are missing the obvious about "Mass Effect 4"
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#202
Posté 13 février 2013 - 09:42
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Isn´t NotME 4 the official title?
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 09:48
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Nope. What he is trying to tell is that they're making a Mass Effect 3: ODST 
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 09:51
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kylecouch wrote...
As Mr Priestly has stated, he disagrees with people thinking it can only be a prequal or a sequal. Now sure many of you might think he is full of crap, I myself am guilty of this on occasion, however I think this time hes trying to actually tell us the game plan without getting into trouble. Basiclly I think "ME4" will boil down to this, alternate reality Mass Effect where there never were any Reapers to begin with. This lets them avoid having to pick a canon ending and thus pissing people off, and also avoids a boring Prequal that while -possibly- interesting would ultimately probably not be too successful.
What do you think? Would you be at all interested if the next games are in an alternate reality without Reapers?
That's a lovely thought but one HUGE problem. The Mass relays and therefore the name Mass Effect comes from the Reapers' technology of the Mass relays. Can't have a Mass Effect game without them
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:04
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CaptainCommander wrote...
That's a lovely thought but one HUGE problem. The Mass relays and therefore the name Mass Effect comes from the Reapers' technology of the Mass relays. Can't have a Mass Effect game without them
Sorry, but after ME3 I´m at a loss what is and isn´t logical possible in this setting.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:05
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Codename_Code wrote...
To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.
In as far as naming I agree.
In regards to the other stuff. Alternate history without the reapers?
Sure why not... The reapers themselves weren't that interesting (especially considering the ending).
To me it was much more the detail in the rest of the galaxy.
EDIT: It seems to me that eg. Knights of the old republic 1/2 are set so much in the past of the previously known star wars universe that it might as well have been regarded as an alternate universe.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:07
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Codename_Code wrote...
To me, ME4 means continuation from ME3, or at least continuation of Shepard story. They should change the 4 for a subtitle if there is no commander in it.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:08
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Nothing says you wet the bed more than "okay let's start over in an alternate universe."
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:12
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CaptainCommander wrote...
That's a lovely thought but one HUGE problem. The Mass relays and therefore the name Mass Effect comes from the Reapers' technology of the Mass relays. Can't have a Mass Effect game without them
Well if the alternate history is the following:
The Protheans manage to fire the catalyst at the very end of their cycle and destroy the reapers and any AI at the time, but the protheans die out anyway (besides javik the last prothean set off the catalyst or something like that).
That would pretty much leave the entire mass effect universe intact for Shepards cycle, but without the Reapers.
It even leaves prothean artifacts scattered around still because those, most of them, were created before the Prothean/Reaper war.
I'm having a bit of a problem explaining the Rachni wars, but that could be explained by the indoctrination of the Rachni taking place during the Prothean cycle, but it just took the Rachni that long to achieve spaceflight/ftl whatever.
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" Nothing says you wet the bed more than "okay let's start over in an alternate universe." "
But to paraphrase... The die was cast and the bed is wet... Can't unwet it...
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:32
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I truly can't see how the series can continue if it's not a sequel. I mean what's it going to be, a FPS based around the same time? Or a prequel where you play as a prothean or something? What's the point? The next game has to be after the events of ME3. It just has to. Maybe they could write something with dark energy being the issue and how it's swallowing up the galaxy whole. But lets not forget that the reapers still exist in all but one of the 4 choices. So they could still possibly be the main villians.
What if refuse is the canon ending and we play as the next cycle ridding the reapers of the universe? Sounds weak sauce but I could see it happen.
Also, I don't for a minute think Shepard's done. Maybe he's done fighting in this cycle.......
But Shep's come back from the dead before. Who's to say Shep can't do it again.
What if refuse is the canon ending and we play as the next cycle ridding the reapers of the universe? Sounds weak sauce but I could see it happen.
Also, I don't for a minute think Shepard's done. Maybe he's done fighting in this cycle.......
But Shep's come back from the dead before. Who's to say Shep can't do it again.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 10:37
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Going by the 'logic' of the endings, the natural progression of the series would be if the next Mass Effect games turn out to be,
Gospel of Garrus
Gospel of Tali
Gospel of Ashley/Kaidan
Gospel of Liara
This would at least validate some of the 'philosophical' debates that abound here.
Gospel of Garrus
Gospel of Tali
Gospel of Ashley/Kaidan
Gospel of Liara
This would at least validate some of the 'philosophical' debates that abound here.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 11:13
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78stonewobble wrote...
CaptainCommander wrote...
That's a lovely thought but one HUGE problem. The Mass relays and therefore the name Mass Effect comes from the Reapers' technology of the Mass relays. Can't have a Mass Effect game without them
Well if the alternate history is the following:
The Protheans manage to fire the catalyst at the very end of their cycle and destroy the reapers and any AI at the time, but the protheans die out anyway (besides javik the last prothean set off the catalyst or something like that).
That would pretty much leave the entire mass effect universe intact for Shepards cycle, but without the Reapers.
It even leaves prothean artifacts scattered around still because those, most of them, were created before the Prothean/Reaper war.
I'm having a bit of a problem explaining the Rachni wars, but that could be explained by the indoctrination of the Rachni taking place during the Prothean cycle, but it just took the Rachni that long to achieve spaceflight/ftl whatever.
PS:
" Nothing says you wet the bed more than "okay let's start over in an alternate universe." "
But to paraphrase... The die was cast and the bed is wet... Can't unwet it...
Still wouldn't work. Mass Effect exists so that organics' technology evolves along the lines the Reapers want. To be honest I think Bioware has no idea what they going to do unless its the same Galaxy ie same races etc but Mass Effect technology doesn't exist.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 11:22
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Well, since we're playing the old speculation game...
My gut instinct says it will be set sometime during one(or all 3?) of the Mass Effect Games, but telling a story outside of Shepard's. The Galaxy is a very large place, and there's still an awful lot of room for narrative opportunity. If I were in BioWare's shoes, that's what I'd try.
My gut instinct says it will be set sometime during one(or all 3?) of the Mass Effect Games, but telling a story outside of Shepard's. The Galaxy is a very large place, and there's still an awful lot of room for narrative opportunity. If I were in BioWare's shoes, that's what I'd try.
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 01:58
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It sounded to me like it;s concurrant events to the ME trilogy...prob spec ops or soemthing
Maybe Mass Effect wars seeing as BW were doing C and C General sequel
Maybe Mass Effect wars seeing as BW were doing C and C General sequel
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Posté 13 février 2013 - 08:19
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I'm not sure this is really the right time for an alternate reality or a reboot in Mass Effect. Alternate realities can start to make things feel less, well, real, especially if they are justified through time travel or other spacetime weirdness. And a reboot seems premature for a single video game trilogy.
Star Trek provides some good examples of how to do this and how not to do it, IMO. I wish they had simply rebooted it for the new movie series rather than tying it into existing Star Trek continuity, because now we're left with the implication that the original series, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, and Voyager don't end up "really happening" in the way we saw them because Nero and Spock went back in time and changed the past. And frankly, Star Trek may have been one franchise that *was* due for a complete reboot given that the canon included 10 movies and several hundred episodes of television by then. I wouldn't have a problem with just seeing a different take on Kirk, Spock, Starfleet, etc., but I don't like having them tie in the original Star Trek canon only to wipe it all out.
And yes, I know Young Spock has that line about "alternate realities" that, I assume, was meant to telegraph to the audience that we don't have to think of it that way, but that doesn't work for me - Old Spock is clearly the same guy we knew from the original series and movies, and either he travels back in time and discovers Vulcan destroyed and the past unfolding in a different way, or he doesn't.
On the other hand, I did enjoy a lot of the individual Star Trek episodes about alternate realities, such as "Yesterday's Enterprise" where we see Starfleet on the verge of losing an extended war with the Klingons, or some of the "mirror universe" stories, because they were largely self-contained and maintained a canon universe where the characters and situations continued as we knew them.
Mass Effect seems to avoid multiple universes, time travel, and the other sorts of sci-fi weirdness often invoked to justify these sorts of stories. If they *did* go that route, I actually wouldn't mind a short detour along these lines - ME2 or ME3 could have had a mission where Shepard crosses over into a timeline where Sovereign succeeded and the Reapers have won, for example - but I wouldn't want an entire game or game series set in the alternate reality.
Star Trek provides some good examples of how to do this and how not to do it, IMO. I wish they had simply rebooted it for the new movie series rather than tying it into existing Star Trek continuity, because now we're left with the implication that the original series, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, and Voyager don't end up "really happening" in the way we saw them because Nero and Spock went back in time and changed the past. And frankly, Star Trek may have been one franchise that *was* due for a complete reboot given that the canon included 10 movies and several hundred episodes of television by then. I wouldn't have a problem with just seeing a different take on Kirk, Spock, Starfleet, etc., but I don't like having them tie in the original Star Trek canon only to wipe it all out.
And yes, I know Young Spock has that line about "alternate realities" that, I assume, was meant to telegraph to the audience that we don't have to think of it that way, but that doesn't work for me - Old Spock is clearly the same guy we knew from the original series and movies, and either he travels back in time and discovers Vulcan destroyed and the past unfolding in a different way, or he doesn't.
On the other hand, I did enjoy a lot of the individual Star Trek episodes about alternate realities, such as "Yesterday's Enterprise" where we see Starfleet on the verge of losing an extended war with the Klingons, or some of the "mirror universe" stories, because they were largely self-contained and maintained a canon universe where the characters and situations continued as we knew them.
Mass Effect seems to avoid multiple universes, time travel, and the other sorts of sci-fi weirdness often invoked to justify these sorts of stories. If they *did* go that route, I actually wouldn't mind a short detour along these lines - ME2 or ME3 could have had a mission where Shepard crosses over into a timeline where Sovereign succeeded and the Reapers have won, for example - but I wouldn't want an entire game or game series set in the alternate reality.
