I have heard many conflicting arguments as to the merits and shortcomings of Dragon Age 2, a game that I have not played. As Dragon Age 3 is on its way, and assuming that I enjoyed (quite a lot, actually) Dragon Age: Origins, what reasons can you guys give me to generate some saves to import to Dragon Age 3?
In short: why SHOULD I play Dragon Age 2?
In Preparation for DA3...
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:24
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It sets the stage for DA ]|[.
There you go.
There you go.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:24
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Because it's a good game. Many people agree, just some were a bit disappointed it wasn't AS good as origins. It is still good. Also, I don't know how DA3 related this is.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:31
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Because the roots of the Mage/Templar war, which will be a huge part of DA3, are in DA2. Also it is a pretty good game in it's own right.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:31
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Because it's a good game, as the poster above said. If you liked Origins, chances are you'll like DA2. It has its flaws, like every game (including *gasp* Origins), but I think a lot of people on BSN will tell you they thoroughly enjoyed the game (and I'm sure people will tell you to save your money.) It was worth the release price for me, and it's even cheaper now.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:32
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It isn't as good as Origins... But it is still an enjoyable game in its own right. You'll also know more when people refer to the events of DA2 in DAI.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:34
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mmarty wrote...
Because the roots of the Mage/Templar war, which will be a huge part of DA3, are in DA2. Also it is a pretty good game in it's own right.
Thus: Inquisition. Got it: this is exactly what I was looking for--cheers!
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:38
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To kill Anders so he doesn't reappear? It has been confirmed if he is dead, he will now stay dead
To provoke Sebastien into reclaiming his throne? I did that through rivalmance and letting Anders live, until he randomly said Hi, fight me!
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Let Varric keep a shard of the red lyrium? You know, make things more interesting.
I think those might just be the only choices we get that could affect Inquisition actually... Maybe you shouldn't play it... I would though, perfect your canon!
To provoke Sebastien into reclaiming his throne? I did that through rivalmance and letting Anders live, until he randomly said Hi, fight me!
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Let Varric keep a shard of the red lyrium? You know, make things more interesting.
I think those might just be the only choices we get that could affect Inquisition actually... Maybe you shouldn't play it... I would though, perfect your canon!
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:39
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Playing trough DA 2 again....it IS a good game if you can accept its one big-ass-major flaw, recycled environments. For the story, DA 2 is a must have, simple.
I have to say that the DLC for DA 2, at least Mark of the Assasin is really worth the money. Choosing the "funny" choice in the dialogue wheel made me laugh hard quite a few times.
I have to say that the DLC for DA 2, at least Mark of the Assasin is really worth the money. Choosing the "funny" choice in the dialogue wheel made me laugh hard quite a few times.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:40
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Elfman wrote...
To kill Anders so he doesn't reappear? It has been confirmed if he is dead, he will now stay dead
To provoke Sebastien into reclaiming his throne? I did that through rivalmance and letting Anders live, until he randomly said Hi, fight me!
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Let Varric keep a shard of the red lyrium? You know, make things more interesting.
I think those might just be the only choices we get that could affect Inquisition actually... Maybe you shouldn't play it... I would though, perfect your canon!
I thought the red lyrium shard just gave us an extra rune.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:44
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XX-Pyro wrote...
Elfman wrote...
To kill Anders so he doesn't reappear? It has been confirmed if he is dead, he will now stay dead
To provoke Sebastien into reclaiming his throne? I did that through rivalmance and letting Anders live, until he randomly said Hi, fight me!
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Let Varric keep a shard of the red lyrium? You know, make things more interesting.
I think those might just be the only choices we get that could affect Inquisition actually... Maybe you shouldn't play it... I would though, perfect your canon!
I thought the red lyrium shard just gave us an extra rune.
Sure gameplay wise, but we saw what it did to Bartrand and Meredith. If you take it away from him, you can see it has had an effect on him. Plus, you can't deny that "My precious" look he gives it.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:45
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because it's a good game not as epic as origins but that's also really hard to achieve?!
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:47
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Elfman wrote...
XX-Pyro wrote...
Elfman wrote...
To kill Anders so he doesn't reappear? It has been confirmed if he is dead, he will now stay dead
To provoke Sebastien into reclaiming his throne? I did that through rivalmance and letting Anders live, until he randomly said Hi, fight me!
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Let Varric keep a shard of the red lyrium? You know, make things more interesting.
I think those might just be the only choices we get that could affect Inquisition actually... Maybe you shouldn't play it... I would though, perfect your canon!
I thought the red lyrium shard just gave us an extra rune.
Sure gameplay wise, but we saw what it did to Bartrand and Meredith. If you take it away from him, you can see it has had an effect on him. Plus, you can't deny that "My precious" look he gives it.
No.... Varric was one of the few Dragon Age male companions that I absolutely loved and thought was amazing. If anything happens Bioware I swear....
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 09:52
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XX-Pyro wrote...
No.... Varric was one of the few Dragon Age male companions that I absolutely loved and thought was amazing. If anything happens Bioware I swear....
A reason to go back and play DA2? Me, as much as I like Varric, I want the story to be super interesting and that's one of the very few possible impacts DA2 can have.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:15
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It's not as good as the first game, but I would say it does have its strong points. Personally I like the story and characters. I like the idea of the setting (mostly one city), although it was not executed very well and the place does often seem barren and lifeless. Kirkwall (the city) never changes much over the course of seven years, which is lame.
Pros:
- Both female and male voice actors for protagonist, Hawke, give a good performance
- Companions are mostly likeable, although there are two that are rather polarizing, but I think that's the point
- Good story
- The two story-based DLC (Legacy, Mark of the Assassin) answered a lot of the complaints leveled at DA2 by fans and critics. The DLC adventures are set outside of Kirkwall, for a welcome change.
- Varric is awesome!! By far the best deadpan snarker in the series, so far.
Cons:
- Recycled maps. Gratuitously so. If you plan to play, get used to this idea.
- It's all set in one city (and a few areas outside).
- Everything you probably loved about DA:O, like the whole love letter to older BioWare games like Baldur's Gate/ Neverwinter Nights feel of, unfortunately got thrown out of the window in favour of "New and Improved" elements, most of which fell flat, especially the "Button Awesome" combat.
- A dumbed down system means you can't dress companions up in armor. You can still give them weapons of your choice, except for Varric, who is rather attached to his very special crossbow, Bianca.
It's rough around the edges, and easily BioWare's weakest game, IMHO, but there's some good in there if you're willing to endure some of the more annoying shortcomings. It has drama. There are laughs to be had. It has its emotional highs and lows. There's some dragons to smite and some romances to be had. If you can get it cheap, grab it.
Pros:
- Both female and male voice actors for protagonist, Hawke, give a good performance
- Companions are mostly likeable, although there are two that are rather polarizing, but I think that's the point
- Good story
- The two story-based DLC (Legacy, Mark of the Assassin) answered a lot of the complaints leveled at DA2 by fans and critics. The DLC adventures are set outside of Kirkwall, for a welcome change.
- Varric is awesome!! By far the best deadpan snarker in the series, so far.
Cons:
- Recycled maps. Gratuitously so. If you plan to play, get used to this idea.
- It's all set in one city (and a few areas outside).
- Everything you probably loved about DA:O, like the whole love letter to older BioWare games like Baldur's Gate/ Neverwinter Nights feel of, unfortunately got thrown out of the window in favour of "New and Improved" elements, most of which fell flat, especially the "Button Awesome" combat.
- A dumbed down system means you can't dress companions up in armor. You can still give them weapons of your choice, except for Varric, who is rather attached to his very special crossbow, Bianca.
It's rough around the edges, and easily BioWare's weakest game, IMHO, but there's some good in there if you're willing to endure some of the more annoying shortcomings. It has drama. There are laughs to be had. It has its emotional highs and lows. There's some dragons to smite and some romances to be had. If you can get it cheap, grab it.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:20
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Elfman wrote...
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Screw Petrice. Seriously, what a dumb, evil fanatical b****.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:21
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mmarty wrote...
Because the roots of the Mage/Templar war, which will be a huge part of DA3, are in DA2. Also it is a pretty good game in it's own right.
If you played the Mage Origin in Origins (for background), and read Asunder, I'm skeptical that you'd really miss much Mage/Templar war wise.
Modifié par Wulfram, 26 janvier 2013 - 10:23 .
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:28
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valhallaVANDAL wrote...
I have heard many conflicting arguments as to the merits and shortcomings of Dragon Age 2, a game that I have not played. As Dragon Age 3 is on its way, and assuming that I enjoyed (quite a lot, actually) Dragon Age: Origins, what reasons can you guys give me to generate some saves to import to Dragon Age 3?
In short: why SHOULD I play Dragon Age 2?
Play it for the characters and the story. The areas where the game is lacking are combat, character customization, environments, etc. The characters are quite fine throughout and the crit path has its moments, particularly Act II's story. Mostly though you play it to meet and get to know the next batch of Bioware companions. Now, DAII is different in that you get to know them more through their personal quests than you do through some equivalent of the camp chats from DAO. Also, there's the Arishok; he's cool. And there are also some nice side quest arcs that run through the acts.
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Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:37
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If you decide to buy it and play it an do so on PC, i highly recommend downloading an playing it with Diversify Followers mod right from the start.
All i can say differently from all above is going by the games you have played, think of DAO as ME1 an think DA2 as ME2, da2 aint as awesome as me2 but the changes brought about in DA2 were as big, namely in my own opinion radically improving the combat an bringing it out the stone age
All i can say differently from all above is going by the games you have played, think of DAO as ME1 an think DA2 as ME2, da2 aint as awesome as me2 but the changes brought about in DA2 were as big, namely in my own opinion radically improving the combat an bringing it out the stone age
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:10
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The Teryn of Whatever wrote...
It's rough around the edges, and easily BioWare's weakest game, IMHO, but there's some good in there if you're willing to endure some of the more annoying shortcomings. It has drama. There are laughs to be had. It has its emotional highs and lows. There's some dragons to smite and some romances to be had. If you can get it cheap, grab it.
This is very helpful. It seems like you are willing to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt when they seem to misstep, and acknowledge (as I maintain) that while BioWare may not make perfect products they do make superior ones. We'll keep ME3 out of the discussion, buy as far as Dragon Age goes: it's a peerless setting with infinite possibilities. I'm rather looking forward to checking this game out now--you have my thanks.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:14
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The Teryn of Whatever wrote...
Elfman wrote...
Allow Petrice to live and cause a schism in the Chantry? Might just be big enough to end it once and for all, or at least make it more militant, (Petrice for next Divine!)
Screw Petrice. Seriously, what a dumb, evil fanatical b****.
I agree, I absolutely hate her. Why do you think I want her in the next game?
Huzzah for hatemance!!!
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:20
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I never thought I'd see a grind in a single player game, but bioware stepped up to the plate, yet again.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:27
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Grind?
DA2 was a good game. It's detractors have valid criticisms for the most part, but what you are left with is still an enjoyable experience.
it's $10 on EA's Origin store right now too -- can't go wrong with that
DA2 was a good game. It's detractors have valid criticisms for the most part, but what you are left with is still an enjoyable experience.
it's $10 on EA's Origin store right now too -- can't go wrong with that
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:29
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I suggest getting DA2 and it's story DLC at least. While DA2 does have some flaws, it is still a good game to get. The party members are the best ones ever. If you do get it then I suggest your main party be a sarcastic Hawke, Isabela, Varric, and Aveline. You will pretty much have a team made up of deadpan snarkiness.
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Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:34
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atum wrote...
Grind?
DA2 was a good game. It's detractors have valid criticisms for the most part, but what you are left with is still an enjoyable experience.
it's $10 on EA's Origin store right now too -- can't go wrong with that
Slogging through the same environment killing wave after wave of identical looking bad guys for 30 hours is what I call a grind.
