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[KiwiQuiche]

Just add that whole damn sentence in the topic title for goodness sake.

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

The Citadel Explodes how in Galaxy's name can Shepard survive that? Than again how can Shepard survive reentry?

I just think Shepard was pushed into the beam by the explosion and was sent back to earth seems more easier to believe then reentry or surviving an explosion

[Davik Kang]

 No need for reentry or miracles.  Shepard on Citadel but not where the explosion occurs.  Still in the Control room within Citadel tower.

Magic elevator is not reeeeeal...

Modifié par Davik Kang, 27 janvier 2013 - 10:06 .

[CynicalShep]

Pretty sure one of the Bioware employees (was it Merizan?) said that he was "still on the Citadel"

[JasonShepard]

Fairly sure I saw a flycam video once that compared various materials around the choice 'room' with the rubble in the breath scene. I'd say Shep's on the Citadel. As for how he/she survived the explosion - Shepard has arguably survived worse, and has some fairly impressive regeneration abilities (presumably from Lazarus implants).

[Anduin The Grey]

I haven't seen any staff post that it is the Citadel but that's not to say they haven't and makes a lot of sense as the Citadel as a whole survived, I have read from a member of staff on these forums that the Citadel does have disaster protocols (paraphrased of course) such as areas that can sustain themselves for long(?) periods of time. Am sure I also read that parts could be jettisoned and land safely on a planetary surface but I don't know why they would have thought they'd need that feature seeing as the Citadel has always been in space with no nearby planetary body, so take this last thought with a pinch of salt.

Modifié par Anduin The Grey, 27 janvier 2013 - 12:54 .

[MassEffectFields]

Ok, I would say that the gunshot wound Shep sufferes is imaginary. Illusive man also imaginary, so..... Shepard is fighting indcotrination, but not in a dream state, more a half lucid state. (Notice how after you choose destroy, he appears to strengthen.

So, I reckon, he would easily survive an explosion given his synth implants.
If the gunshot wound was real, then, the synth implants prob saved his life.
If it was imaginary, that means Anderson was also imaginary, so he may not be dead.

All speculation but you can see how Shepard could survive. The explosion may not have been as brutal as it looked, maybe a little toasty, but survivable.

Or, you could go full indoctination theory and say he was dreaming....? Which means he is still on earth in some rubble.

[Belisarius25]

Given that this is a series where you can be essentially dead for 2 years and then be as good as new, a giant plot device space cannon can change every being's DNA, and so on, I'm sure there'll find a way to explain Shepard's (at least temporary) survival.

The one thing I wish they'd removed in the EC is the whole "I'm gonna walk right into the tube's explosion". I still don't understand why Shepard would ever do that. 

[Ticonderoga117]

JasonShepard wrote...

Fairly sure I saw a flycam video once that compared various materials around the choice 'room' with the rubble in the breath scene. I'd say Shep's on the Citadel. As for how he/she survived the explosion - Shepard has arguably survived worse, and has some fairly impressive regeneration abilities (presumably from Lazarus implants).

The closest thing was when the Collector's destroyed the SR-1... and he didn't survive that.

[dayron669]

It was just a cliche piece of writing, inspired by every other vague hint of survival we've seen throughout movie and gaming history.

[Priss Blackburne]

I don't think Shepard has survived an explosion that is equivalent to a Atomic bomb. We know how big the citadel is and the explosion covers the circumference of it. It's an explosion the size of a large city, and it's centered around where Shepard is located , and he/she is apparently not inside any structure as you can see space where he/she is.

[Argolas]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

Fairly sure I saw a flycam video once that compared various materials around the choice 'room' with the rubble in the breath scene. I'd say Shep's on the Citadel. As for how he/she survived the explosion - Shepard has arguably survived worse, and has some fairly impressive regeneration abilities (presumably from Lazarus implants).

The closest thing was when the Collector's destroyed the SR-1... and he didn't survive that.

How about Harby a few minutes before that?

Shepard's body should be vaporized like anyone else's who got too close too that thing.

[dayron669]

Argolas wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

Fairly sure I saw a flycam video once that compared various materials around the choice 'room' with the rubble in the breath scene. I'd say Shep's on the Citadel. As for how he/she survived the explosion - Shepard has arguably survived worse, and has some fairly impressive regeneration abilities (presumably from Lazarus implants).

The closest thing was when the Collector's destroyed the SR-1... and he didn't survive that.

How about Harby a few minutes before that?

Shepard's body should be vaporized like anyone else's who got too close too that thing.

This is Shepard we're talking about though. A science fiction protagonist ... a laser isn't going to stop him/her. 

[Wayning_Star]

I dunno OP, seems to me Shep cannot be in two places at once and in a different set of armor.

I vote on the ground myself, communing with the Catalyst somehow, like with the Levi.

[dayron669]

Maybe it's just crappy writing, Wayning_Star. They're just human, after all. These are the same people who wrote dialogue that posits that, in order to save organics, they must be destroyed.

There's plenty of available footage that proves Shepard is on the Citadel. It's not really a debate at this point. 

Modifié par dayron669, 27 janvier 2013 - 06:49 .

[dorktainian]

analyse the breath scene and its obvious where he is. (use art packs etc.....to study it)

[TheCrazyHobo]

When ME3 first came out, people were completely confused to what the breath scene meant. In the scene we saw Shepherd in what looks exactly like concrete and rebar and we heard the wind howling in the background. Those two elements lead people to believe he was not on the Citadel, but rather on the war-torn Earth were wind and destroyed concrete are common place.

[Codename_Code]

By logic, Shepard cant be alive after the citadel explosion, so Shepard never left London and the scene is in London. By the looks of it( debris, rebar, ambient noises, reapers growls) , Shepard is in london. By Literal narrative, Shepard is immortal and is in some london-like citadel debris with turned makos and shelves and stuff.

But there is no confirmation, so people is saying that shepard is in the citadel, that this person is not shepard, that this is a last breathe before dying, that the rebar is a reaper cable from the citadel. So. Shepard is nowhere right now until confirmation. Narrative limbo.

Also, I have a question, Ive seen a couple of versions of this scene where before grasping for air, there is a voice that says" I love you" to Shepard. I didn't get it, is this real or just edited ?.

Modifié par Codename_Code, 27 janvier 2013 - 07:11 .

[dayron669]

Sure. Then a video showing how the rubble is the exact material from the Citadel surfaced.

Also is the mere idea that FALLING FROM SPACE would leave a person ... you know... dead.

[Profanity Beaver]

Codename_Code wrote...

By logic, Shepard cant be alive after the citadel explosion, so Shepard never left London and the scene is in London. By the looks of it( debris, rebar, ambient noises, reapers growls) , Shepard is in london. By Literal narrative, Shepard is immortal and is in some london-like citadel debris with turned makos and shelves and stuff.

But there is no confirmation, so people is saying that shepard is in the citadel, that this person is not shepard, that this is a last breathe before dying, that the rebar is a reaper cable from the citadel. So. Shepard is nowhere right now until confirmation. Narrative limbo.

Also, I have a question, Ive seen a couple of versions of this scene where before grasping for air, there is a voice that says" I love you" to Shepard. I didn't get it, is this real or just edited ?.

Oh goodness! Narrative limbo is no place to leave a character. It's just so dang frustrating!

But that really looked like concrete, it even had them little metal things that hold concrete together sticking outta it, if memory serves...

[dayron669]

Watching the scene, I don't see any "metal things" sticking out of the concrete. I do, however, see a cracked wall that's clearly part of the Citadel.

[AlanC9]

simfamSP wrote...

...in the Citadel, right? A lot of people say 'earth' yet it really makes more sense to be in the citadel. In my destroy ending the place is still afloat. In ruins, but still afloat. I don't think the explosions tore of the arms like it said it would.

Why wouldn't the Citadel be "afloat"? It's not like the Reapers would park it in one of those silly Star Trek orbits that  causes the ship to crash if the engines fail.